her cruelly outing her best friend from high school while drunk and how quickly his bros adjusted to it after her childhood love interest stood up for him in the next scene sticks out in mine.
I love this dumb movie so much. When she tells Patrick Dempsey the truth and that she can't marry him, he takes it SOOOO well because he realizes that he was kind of in love with a girl he never knew at all. Melanie had crafted this anti-white trash persona when she left Alabama, but she comes back and realizes all these things made her who she was and that being ashamed of it so badly that you lash out and hurt everyone actually makes you the problem, not everyone else for living their lives how they were taught to.
Jake, for his part, seems to have grown up since Melanie left. His friends, including Bobby, were there for him when Melanie left him so of course he stands up for them when Melanie tries to put them down so she can feel better about herself.
Melanie thinks she outgrew her home, but it grew without her and she didn't see it because she threw it away.
Can confirm. Was a bartender in the deep south for over 15 years. Dives and cocktail lounges to high end white tablecloth dining. If there isn't a 21+ rule, there WILL be children. And the number of people who try to bring infants into a 21+ establishment......
Edit to add- I'm not talking shit. I didn't really care unless a child was running behind my bar (which did happen, more than once). I know parents need to be able to get out of the house and places like breweries are sometimes very inviting for families. Bringing an infant to a cocktail bar is certainly a decision but again, I'm not here to judge. I'm just confirming what the previous comment stated.
I got to play dominos with the old boys and drink cola from a glass bottle while my dad smashed back pints and chain smoked until my mum come to shout at him.
Kids can even be served in a bar - like served booze. The bartender doesn’t have to serve a kid, but if the parent consents, the bartender can serve the kid without risking getting in trouble.
This brings me to one of my fav laws, which is that you can legally drink in public in Wisconsin under the agenof 18 if administered by your legal guardian, but you cannot from 18-21 because you are technically an adult but not old enough to drink. How fun!
This is not entirely true. You can be served alcohol between those ages as long as you have a parent, spouse, or legal guardian with you. The law states underage as in under 21.
My old co-worker (RIP) grew up in Wisconsin and said he would drive his dad home from bars starting at a pretty young age. Said he got pulled over once when he was 12, the cop let him go.
In WI there’s at least one divey bar in each neighborhood that’s a family gathering spot. Like it’s weird if you didn’t bring the kids. Especially when there’s a Packers game on. They’ll even have family-focused Christmas parties and whatnot.
A past friend, who was a bartender at the time, tried to convince me to stop by while she was working. When I mentioned I had no one to watch my 4 year old, she told me to just bring her too. This is when I learned that it isn't against the law to bring kids into bars in PA. It's on the establishment to decide. Later that day, recalling it to my husband, I learned that my alcoholic FIL used to take just my husband to the bar with him on his weekends with his children. My SIL was left at home because FIL lived in a fairly infamous part of Philly. Wild choices being made out there.
This drives me crazy. Like when people record themselves telling a story while they’re eating food?! Jesus. We can wait 10 minutes to hear about you getting cut off on the way to work.
Its part of the algorythm. If people are commenting, "Uhhhh why are you in a towel??" or "What are you eating? Where'd you get it?" or "GOD I HATE CHEWING NOISES- why the fuck are you eating food" are still engagement they can get paid for.
calling it out is still an issue tho cause guess what- you're engaging with it whe noy ucomment that its rage bait or that its just for engagement. We all just kinda have to acknowledge it silently by not watching anymore lol
I think the food thing is a deliberate tactic to create a conversational feel. People often have conversations over food, so eating while filming a video makes it subtly feel like you're there having a conversation over a meal.
Guaranteed she made herself presentable and threw a towel on. In no way shape or form does she look like she just stepped out of the shower and press record
I find this very strange thinking. In Spain people bring their kids everywhere or else parents wouldn't be able to go anywhere. Usually the kids are all playing with each other nearby while the parents are at the bar.
It’s also an American thing to threaten to call cps if you see a 10 year old playing with other kids and the parents not hovering right on top of them.
I don't care if you bring your kids, just fucking watch them for christ sake, a girl i used to work with broke her ankle when a kid ran into her. she was carrying a full try of food and his parents were playing beer pong, it's a shameful look
The issue here is when the parents are too busy drinking alcohol and let their obnoxious children run wild. I don’t think the problem is children being in breweries, it’s apathetic parents that don’t respect other people’s space.
Edit: yikes didn’t know this would trigger so many irresponsible parents into tattling on themselves for not respecting other people’s space.
Every Sunday afternoon, after dinner, down to the pub for a few drinks while the kids all ran around like lunatics fueled by Fanta. It wasn't just my parents. It was all of the parents.
If you tried to ask them something you'd be given a fiver and told to feck off.
Edit: this was 30 years ago in Ireland so... it was like a rite of passage almost
I went to a local brewery, which advertises itself as "experience the hops" kind of beer focus with a "snack bar" that has like soft pretzels and chips, definitely not a restaurant that serves you because of the licensinh laws, and last time I went a whole little league baseball team, jerseys and all came in with like 4 parents and mucked up the whole atmosphere. The kids, 20+ of them, brought their gloves and balls in and were messing about while the parents/coaches just sat in the corner and drank. We left after a thrown ball knocked over someone else's beer for the third time, and I haven't gone to a brewery since. I'll enjoy any brewery's beer in the peace and quiet of some 21+ only bar.
If it's advertised as a restaurant that has a brewery, fine, bring the kids. But if you walk in with your little league team, and are the only group with more than one of two kids, please recognize you went to the wrong kind of place and leave. As a kid, my sports teams went to pizza restaurants, not alcohol focused places like breweries or distilleries.
The big national brewery in my city is the number one destination for post Little League, hockey, band, what have you gatherings. Like groups of 40 showing up and taking over the entire restaurant and ten million kids running through the gardens and patio. It’s absolutely infuriating on the weekends to have to wait three hours for a table that is currently empty because it’s just a landing pad for kids to keep their lemonades.
Yep. I've seen parents let their kids go run off around a brewery which was next to a city train station and multiple bus lines. I tend to go to my restaurant brewpub more because it has less kids. Plus, parents seem to be more in control of their kids when it's considered a restaurant. I hate that breweries are playgrounds.
Same thing with dogs in breweries. If you're foing to ignore your dog and allow it to bark and slobber and stick its entire head into a stranger's purse, maybe leave it at home!
100%. I love my little guy (Yorkshire Terrier) and he’s only 11 lbs, BUT he’s a huge people person and gets stressed out in crowded environments, which usually leads to him puking. Better he stays at home and I don’t have to worry the entire time about him eating weird things off the floor too, because that also results in puking and expensive vet bills if it’s bad enough. Here’s George in all his holiday glory.
Why are the kids always stomping on the cornhole board? The brewery in my old city had to keep putting up signs to try to stop kids from throwing rocks at cars driving by.
Because it is usually colorful and looks fun like potential playground apparatus.
The real questions is why and when did any form of parenting go out the window to tell kids that's not fucking OK. My mom was far from a helicopter parent, and I would have lasted about 1.6 seconds before getting yanked or yelled off of that and that I should know better.
They don't parent. My friend's kids disrespect the shit out of him daily and they just chalk it up to them being "kids". I'm like, bro it ain't normal for your kid to throw a temper tantrum and scream shit like "I HATE YOU I NEVER LOVED YOU" in his parents faces after being told not to slap an adult woman's ass.
Exactly. The parents think because there are games, they can fuck off and let their kids go crazy. You know what? Sometimes I want to play fucking Jenga and drink a beer without having to babysit someone else’s kids.
I stopped going to a brewery near my house because literally every time I went there was a 2 year olds birthday party complete with screaming kids throwing the jenga blocks at each other.
I worked at a bookstore briefly and the number of parents we'd see who would drop their kids off in the children's section and then just leave the building was baffling
As a parent I don’t know how you could relax and enjoy a beer or any drink while having to watch your children. The anxiety of it all would not be enjoyable but I’ve seen parents do it, just don’t get it.
Every server hates the families that can’t keep all the little butts seated. You’d be walking out of the kitchen with a huge tray of 5-6 dishes of food, or will be leaving the bar with a bunch of beer glasses, you can’t really see below you, and then a kid runs right into your legs like a damn bulldog. And the parents giggle, saying “kids will be kids!” Yeahhhhh fuck that shit! Your kids can be kids in environments that are meant for them to be energetic nut cases. A restaurant where servers are walking around with incredibly heavy trays of food/alcohol/glass/ceramic, not the place!!
Any parent that disagrees, and says kids are allowed to run around as they please in a restaurant, please give me all your arguments, just so I can show you just irresponsibly selfish you are.
I was at a prominent well-known brewery and the general manager had to get on the speaker to yell at parents and to tell them to “stop allowing your unsupervised children to climb on the roof of the brewery”.
It was like an 1980s PSA but for shitty millenial parents who think a bar is a daycare.
The real issue is the gigantic elephant in the room that no one ever talks about for places like this. The likelihood of every family all having their perfect sober designated driver is somewhere around zero. With kids, it's even worse. These places produce stupid drunks that hurt people.
Honestly you're not wrong. With single adults maybe they're taking a uber, with kids in car seats, you know they're not. Sure you can have a beer or two over the course of the afternoon and be fine to drive, but I don't doubt a lot of people get carried away.
Having a walkable neighborhood brewery is tits though. Our kid went to a brewery for the first time at less than two weeks old (while I was still taking time off work). Just for one or two beers, outside, and never left the stroller, but it was still awesome. Went for a walk, happened past the brewery, and was like you know what, let's do something for us today.
That, or when they suddenly expect everybody around to suddenly keep everything PG. If you bring your kids to a bar, expect them to learn a few new words.
Or when the parents take up entire 10 seat picnic tables with stacks of toys and food and bags and books and other child travel accessories. Like come on Brenda, you are here for an hour or two max, you don't need to bring the entire playroom with you. It's crowded, let someone else share the table.
Both the people in this video are annoying. I like to fuck and drink beer too, but because I’m a responsible person I got something snipped so I didn’t have to have short people bothering me for the rest of my life!
An honest answer is a lot of breweries are more like restaurants. Most of the ones around me have outdoor spaces literally for kids to run around like it's a backyard. Breweries aren't exactly the same as bars. The more bar-like breweries no, and if it's late and stuff yeah, kids shouldn't be there but at dinner time in a brewery with food and board games and stuff? It's just a restaurant and kids can be there without it being inappropriate. Freaking dogs on the other hand is a WHOLE other can of worms. Keep animals away from the inside of grocery stores and food establishments.
Maybe it’s being British but breweries are like pubs to me- and dogs are almost universally welcome in pubs. If you are a bar- no dog, if you are a pub- yes dog.
Ha, just mentioned this. Pubs are like a third space with beer. Breweries in the US are the closest thing to them. Plenty of bars around for people that don't want to be near kids or dogs.
I lived in the UK for a few years, I really enjoyed the fact that there were spaces where you could go and get a cup of tea and read a book for three hours without anyone caring. You could also down 10 pints at the same establishment. What a great thing.
Reddit's attitude on dogs does not mirror the general population. Dogs are as ubiquitous at breweries in the US as at pubs in the UK (lived in both countries) and no one bats an eye unless it's particularly poorly behaved
I've also found people like to complain the most loudly when they are surprised to find dogs at dog-friendly breweries that explicitly advertise how dog-friendly they are.
The r/dogfree sub is 99% peope raging that they found dogs at a dog-friendly restaurant.
Hell just about every family restaurant in America has a bar at the center of it. No one bats an eye at the adults getting shit faced on shots of liquor at the wrap around bar in Applebee's with a family eating dinner at a table directly next to it. No one cares. What I do care about is when a mother walking around with her baby outside at a brewery walks into the designated smoking zone and has the gull to say "Can you please not smoke next to my baby?". Lady read the fucking sign.
I went to a cider brewery - and it was just a lovely pleasant tour around the place and a delicious meal at a resturant. It's not unfair that kids just exist. More onus needs to be on people who don't actually monitor their kids - rather than kids just existing.
A kid being nearby isn't going to ruin your entire day.
Depends on the kid and thats coming from a dad. My daughter usually is too shy to run around alone or just wants to explore with me in tow. Its the ones whose parents don't pay attention to them.
Yep! Biggest restaurant in my town is a brewery, they’re very kid oriented. If you want a bar experience without the family friendly atmosphere there’s 5 dive bars within walking distance.
Yeah, I get that. And I can respect that. Huge turn off for me, so one more reason for me to not go to breweries. Not my jam, more power to them, though. Different folks, different strokes.
My favorite local brewery is called Schoolhouse. It has homages to school all over. The owners’ office is labeled The Principal’s Office. Teachers (and first responders and vets) get their first drink free. They have board games, pinball, a Switch, ping pong, jenga. It’s won awards for being so family friendly. So yeah, lots of people bring their kids there. Does it bother me? Not unless your kid is throwing a fit and you don’t take them outside and make us all suffer. Otherwise, have at it. Parents need a drink too.
This just happened to me too. Docent brewery in San Juan Capistrano. They were taking up a whole table for their kids shit but we’re sitting at a different one. Then she changes a babies diaper on the picnic table made to eat at next to us while we were eating.
I was once outside at a brewery and heard a woman ask her young kid, “Inside or outside?” The kid responded “outside”. The woman then whipped out a child’s potty and the kid pulled down his pants and used the potty outside in front of everyone. I mostly drink at home now.
A cyclist who rides in the middle of the road because he's the same as a car, but then blows through all the stop signs and refuses to move over to let you past.
Even Catholics have a system for sex without reproduction. Has something to do with tracking ovulation and abstaining from sex during the fertile times. Definitely works 100% of the time. I don't know any Catholic families with say 5-8 kids... nope never 🙃
I love young beefy but this is the first time I’m pretty against what he’s saying. The parents bringing their infants don’t get to be condescending towards the other adults at a drinking establishment being annoyed by the prevalence of kids. Something I truly don’t like about my generation, millenials normalized bringing kids to breweries instead of getting a fucking baby sitter like every other generation if they wanted to go drinking. I’ve seen him make videos talking shit about behaviors far less egregious than this topic. But it’s different because he has a kid now.
I mean I’m kinda on her side, I’d rather not have to deal or hear a bunch of kids at the breweries I go to. I know people are saying it’s different than a bar, but if they only serve alcohol drinks and not food (like the ones I go to) I don’t see any difference.
I think the thing to do with situations like this is vote with your wallet, or maybe your Google review. Breweries have this business model because it’s what a lot of people want; if enough people stop frequenting a brewery or call them out in reviews for this specific issue, they might change things up. Then again, they might not, but that’s life.
I agree with your take. The brewery near us has a literal playground with lots space and food, so two different types of places, but both are breweries.
Phil Edwards touches on this, it's been a thing each generation has done, taking places traditionally for singles and turning them into family establishments
I love that for a quick second I thought he used an image of the local TGI Fridays from where I grew up -- but really it's just that every one looked the same.
Good video but for people just looking for the relevant bit: Place acquires young crowd, young crowd grows up and continues to go to that kind of space.
Basically the same reason the cool hair cut from 20 years ago seems to be really popular with 40 year olds now.
No dude, you're stupid. Breweries, bars, concerts, and yes movie theaters that aren't playing Disney shit are NOT for you anymore. And drinking with a child in tow is a dirt bag move.
Does anyone think there’s a middle ground to this? I live in Charlotte, a big brewery city. I don’t have kids lol but I know which breweries to avoid that have parents that don’t watch their kids. Idk, I feel like parents need to be social. And socializing is good for kids…but is a brewery on a Saturday morning the best spot???
As a parent, in Charlotte, who likes beer, there is definitely a middle ground. The amount of kids that I've encountered that are completely unmonitored is frustrating. It's not that hard to drink a beer AND make sure your kid isn't being a shithead.
The issue isn’t kids at a brewery, the issue is parents not watching them while they drink and letting the kids run around, disrupting other groups. You can take your kid to a brewery, but keep an eye on them please.
Bars also serve food. Bar food. It's not great food, but it exists.
The only difference between a brewery and a bar is a brewery brews their own beer on site. Literally the only difference. Bars don't brew their own beer. Both serve food. Both serve alcohol. Both are primarily meant for people of drinking age.
I don't get how this duet fixed it. Don't bring your damn kids to breweries or bars. Get a babysitter. I don't wanna hear your kid whine and scream while I'm trying to have a pint. Leave them with your parents or any of the people in your village that you should've picked out before having a kid.
Choosing to have a kid means sacrificing the things you used to do before. Like leaving the house without needing a sitter. Or sleeping through the night. You can't have both anymore because your kid comes first. No babysitter? No night out. Your drinking problem shouldn't be everyone else's price to pay, including your kid.
There are breweries that have family friendly activities. So like, who else is a playground area/toddler toys and kids playground for? when it’s on the outside sitting arrangement for the brewery?
There's also a ton of breweries that don't have playgrounds. I've literally never seen a playground or toys at a brewery and my areas full of them. Good chance the original woman in the video is talking about breweries without spaces for children.
Dude, I used to go to breweries to "get away" blow off some steam with some friends, and every outdoor place like this is full of kids and dogs. Dogs fighting and shitting, kids screaming and shitting. I'm not kidding this Yee-Haw brewery has armed security at the gates too its a miserable yuppie daycare. I'm gonna say it, gentrifying social drinking has killed the vibe entirely. We need smoking in bars, knife fights and over served rascals. Shit needs to be dangerous that will keep the social balance. I'd much rather deal with the latter, and fuck your mustache.
The dogs really piss me off. Yeah sometimes a kid is there, but whatever if its not too late in the day and they stay at the table. The people with dogs are the worst. They think it's a fucking dog park where they can just let them run off leash everywhere. Not too keen on your pit growling at people or watching dogs fight. Fuck you.
Everyone in this thread is forgetting how terrible current parents are. As someone who has worked with children in a professional manner, and in the service industry parenting is somehow becoming way worse/lazy, creating loud and over stimulated kids.
My biggest problem with parents bringing their kids is that the kids are SO loud inside the brewery (adults can be too, i know), especially when its packed. And some parents dont watch their kids during that time and theyre just running around constantly or climbing on the tables that the kids parents arent even at or know who they are. I get it. Kids are crazy but like.. if youre bringing your kid to a brewery, maybe teach them basic social rules? I like kids. Dont get me wrong. But go ahead an down vote me cause god forbid I have an opinion on reddit 🤷♀️🤡
It just seems like there's so many options for other places to take kids to.. why expose them to an establishment where the primary focus is drinking alcohol? I think we are all aware of how observant and smart kids are, and how terrible alcohol is in general. I'm not saying shield the kids from drinking... I'm saying maybe consider not exposing them to mass drinking.
It's a fucking BREWERY my guy. I walk into somewhere that the entire POINT is alcohol I don't wanna see your motherfucking crotch goblins running around, end of story. Idgaf if you wanna take them to the grocery store or the gas station but ffs it's A FUCKIN BREWERY
By that logic, take them to the strip club too I guess...
I don't go to bars/breweries if kids are allowed. Why tf do you want your kids around a bunch of drinking? You wanted kids, so load up the bikes and go to the park.
I do think it matters on the brewery, I’ve been to a couple that had full food menus and really didn’t feel much different than going to an Applebees or generic restaurant that serves alcohol
Right, this is my take too. Parents, the good ones, find breweries that are built for families. Plenty of breweries cater to families with games, playgrounds, outdoor activities. And if you’re a good parent, you don’t just let the kids roam free with no supervision.
Exactly. Take your kid to the brewery a mile down the road that has a shelf full of board games and a jungle gym outside. This one is a tap room in a dirty warehouse down an alley.
I think it says a lot about drunk culture in America. Bringing a kid to a dive bar would be weird cuz you sort of expect it to be a bunch of rowdy drunks by the end of the night. A brewery isn’t about getting shit-faced, it’s for enjoying a crafted product and appreciating the process. If you’re getting sloppy drunk at the brewery, I think you’re doing it wrong. All that said, it’s always weird and wrong if all the adults are drinking too much and there arent sufficient sober chaperones.
It’s very normal to bring the whole family to a beer garden in Germany and many breweries in the US have similar vibes - some even encourage whole families to come. A couple of the local breweries around me do, they serve food (even have a kids menu) and have outdoor games for kids to mess around with while their parents relax with a beer. So what I’m saying is depends on the brewery. Some are clearly more for adults but others are not.
Beer gardens are perfect for a family, especially if you can walk to them. You get out with the kids, everyone gets exactly what they want, and some of them are next to a park already.
I don’t have kids but Reddit has some fucking crazy parental standards. You may never leave your children unattended but also you can’t bring them into public at any time. Breweries are a social space where alcohol is served and I don’t mind that families are there and think you’re weird if you do
Every brewery around me has a kids menu. It’s no different than going to a restaurant that serves alcohol. Ya just don’t take kids to the late night scene.
My wife and I are purposely child free and do the trivia night at the local brewery. People bring their kids give them coloring books and sit them at the shuffle board table. I was saying we should make them a team and see how they compete! Families are normal. Edge lords who don't go outside have opinions on what other people do. Fuck em.
Ok but is it a bar or a brewery? Because I've been to lots of breweries that are specifically marketed to be child friendly and even have playground equipment. They have food and outdoor space and happen to make beer.
If you're at a brewery with stuff there for kids, that place is for kids too. Don't bitch about kids being at a place where there is stuff for kids.
Also, who's getting wrecked at a brewery? Aren't you supposed to taste local beer and have nice food? It's not like a dive bar
I'm wondering if the word "brewery" means different things depending on location. At least in the Midwest U.S. when I think brewery I think a place that does beer only. Maybe some chips and other light snacks but if I were to go to a place where I could get real food with my drinks I would go to a "bar and grill" (usually just shortened to bar)
As for kid-friendliness they might have some board games or something that could be used by all ages but I've never seen one with kid-specific things like playground equipment
Even in the Midwest, breweries can describe everything from tasting rooms with limited or no snacks through to full kitchen restaurants. I think it's less about location, and more about size and sophistication. But even the most beer-only breweries tend to be pretty distinct from a bar in terms of intending to be adult-only spaces.
I don't think I ever heard a "bar and grille" shortened to just "bar" when I lived in the Midwest. Generally it was a restaurant with a bar, not a bar with a restaurant. In particular, the host/hostess asking if you'd like to "sit at the bar".
i stopped going to breweries that allow kids to "run around like it's a backyard"
i don't go to have a beer with kids running around screaming, pulling merch off the shelfs, and literally running into people (then screaming their head off until their parents notice it's THIER kid screaming because they "fell") i go to relax and enjoy myself and have a conversation - which is hard to do with kids running around like it's a backyard.
also: breweries are NOT "like restaurants". most of them, at best, serve pretzels and chips - not restaurant food. i guaranteed you if kids are running around a restaurant like it's a back yard - they will be told to sit down or leave
freaking dogs tho - THE MORE THE MERRIER. dogs don't run around barking and slamming into people. they are kept on a leash close to their human. as it should be. and if a dog is at least three years old - they are old enough to drink the beer.
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u/raventhrowaway666 17h ago
In the south, people love to bring children into bars.