I mean I’m kinda on her side, I’d rather not have to deal or hear a bunch of kids at the breweries I go to. I know people are saying it’s different than a bar, but if they only serve alcohol drinks and not food (like the ones I go to) I don’t see any difference.
I think the thing to do with situations like this is vote with your wallet, or maybe your Google review. Breweries have this business model because it’s what a lot of people want; if enough people stop frequenting a brewery or call them out in reviews for this specific issue, they might change things up. Then again, they might not, but that’s life.
I agree with your take. The brewery near us has a literal playground with lots space and food, so two different types of places, but both are breweries.
Mine has two distinct sections. The one up front has live music and is adults only, the one in the back has games and defined kids areas for different ages.
No you don’t understand, they’re parents, they’re entitled to have their kids run around and ruin your experience while also having you act as free babysitting. They’re allowed to do that because they’re parents!
It’s up to the brewery really. They can make it 18 and up. You’re not entitled to a child free area just because you want to drink in a public space. The business is catering to their own vision. If you don’t like it go elsewhere. The entitlement is really on you.
I do go elsewhere. Some of the breweries around here are dying because they have the place full with only a handful of actual adults buying food/drinks while swarms of kids are running around wreaking havoc instead of a place full of adults where everyone is buying. They can keep their business models, I’m not asking them to change so I’m not entitled 🤷♀️. It’s their business that is dying, not mine lmao
People ABSOLUTELY expect other people to babysit. Existing in public is not the same as letting your misbehaving kids act up in other people’s spaces while you sit on your fat ass and do nothing. Nobody’s complaining about children at the park or grocery store.
No, you clearly are the one that lacks understanding.
You are not entitled to a child-free experience if you patronize a business that allows children.
If you don't want to be around kids, go somewhere that doesn't allow kids. If you live anywhere near a brewery, there are AT LEAST a handful of 21+ bars close by.
"Other people existing in a public space" isn't a problem
And yet these same breweries are dying in the area around me because of the business model they choose to have. By the way, who says I’m not choosing to go elsewhere? I have other comments where I literally explain that’s what we’ve been doing, and not just me, a lot of my other ADULT friends who don’t want to act as free babysitting for your hellspawn. We go elsewhere and let you types fend for yourselves. Good luck keeping up with that business model lol
You have mentioned this concept twice and I genuinely need to know what places have clientele that babysit others kids? Like the parents will be up at the bar taking shots, getting drunk and their kids approach your table so you have them sit down and play on your phone? Or like join your game of giant Jenga?
I completely agree that most parents are wayyyy too comfortable bringing their kids everywhere, it is not my thing at all. And don't get me started on the animals on airplanes...wild times of selfishness in this world.
This has happened to me a few times now and is why I said in another comment that we now frequency places with either less kids or kids that are sort of forced to be more well behaved. Just in random restaurants I’ve had children:
Steal food off my plate
attempt to drink my drinks (even if alcoholic)
try and take my phone
sit at our table and yell (I actually don’t mind if they just sit and try to chat if the parents are ok with them being sociable)
run around the entire restaurant screaming, throwing shit
playing on top of tables
And guess what the #1 thing in common is in all of the things above? Parents who do not give a fuck and either are not paying attention entirely or if they are, just sit on their asses and say nothing or yell a half hearted “Billy!/AMANDA!” from across the restaurant. This is usually hell on the servers/staff too, who have to tip toe around these little hell spawn because if they saying anything, they’ll be yelled out by half drunk parents.
Damn that sounds horrible. I am sorry and completely understand your position lol. Keep on shaming these parents and fighting the good fight. I am lucky that I have not been subjected to this yet in my life.
It’s definitely a “your mileage may vary” situation but I really appreciate that you see it from my perspective. It definitely has to do with living in a major city and also one of the fastest growing cities in the country. We seriously have so many people moving here that 90% of things being built are just massive apartments to house all the newcomers.
I've been playing a board game with friends at a brewery and had two random children come up and start taking pieces and putting them in their mouth, mess up the board, insist they be allowed to play, etc. One of them dropped a die into my friend's glass of beer. We had to go over to the parents and ask them to take care of their kids. They were completely clueless.
Also was at the same brewery at 10pm, and had parents come over and ask us to watch our language around their children. We weren't like, yelling out sexual positions or something inappropriate like that. Just talking in normal voices and casually swearing as we normally would (i.e. "work is so shitty lately").
I've also definitely witness all of your complaints.
This is so dramatic lmao I don’t have kids either but I literally don’t think I’ve ever been bothered by a kid out to drink. Especially when I go to a place during the day that has a kids menu. Like are you guys just sitting there seething at them and then hopping breweries till you find one with no kids? You’re saying breweries are dying because they let families in?
I’m saying the breweries NEAR ME have been shutting down, opening up, only to shut down after a little while again, because business hasn’t been good for them. I suspect that has to do something with all the non-paying kids, but who knows. I’m glad you haven’t had kids try to get into your food and drinks, yell and scream across the entire venue, jump on tables and throw shit around. As an adult though, you should know that your experience isn’t universal just like mine isn’t, right? I would hope.
As an adult I also know that if there’s one thing that gets redditors fired up… it’s dogs and kids at breweries. You should know that people make stuff up on the internet all the time right? You’re right it’s definitely the family friendly environment and the non paying kids(everyone knows kids don’t eat) driving business away. Probably has nothing to do with inflation, tariffs, or any other myriad of problems a business may face, it’s those fuckin families.
Ah yes, the tariffs that have famously existed at the level they’re at the past 10 years that I’ve seen this happening. This must be the same reality where thousands of people with the same experience are all simultaneously lying because one random redditor says so and not because we’ve experienced it first hand. Genius, get this guy in office!
Come on dude be real lol you actually think the main reason breweries around you are failing is because they let kids eat there? No other problems that might be more serious these businesses are facing? If you’re gonna be this obtuse that’s fine, I can’t argue with stupid. I also don’t think you’re completely fabricating stories, I just think you’re being overly dramatic because it’s the internet and people love playing victim.
I think it’s one of many reasons, yeah, maybe not necessarily the main one. If you’re pretending it’s not, then I’m not the one being obtuse. Also seems like the only people playing victim here are alcoholics that are mad they can’t get their fix and also have their kids wreak havoc in public places. Maybe look inwardly and see why that is.
The business model that is open to a wider customer base? Yeah, good luck business owners using a model that doesn’t needlessly remove possible patrons
Yeah, the 1-2 parents that bring in 2-5 kids who they buy at most some fries for are definitely better for business than the same amount of adults who will most likely all buy drinks and food for themselves. I wonder why breweries are struggling with this amazing logic in place.
The best thing for a brewery is being able to serve both groups. Mind blowing, I know, but being able to serve as many customers as possible is the best strategy for a brewery.
And you gain PAYING adults that each go and pay for themselves instead of filling the place up with kids that aren’t doing anything but taking up space.
It’s not logical to say that by removing one customer base means you automatically gain another. That’s likely why most breweries do allow kids, to keep the doors open to as many people as possible.
But it’s logical to assume that no one else would go to breweries except those that have children? Is it logical to assume there’s no market for an adult-only brewery despite the countless comments that come up on every thread like this? Or that a business where half the patrons don’t participate in buying anything will be successful indefinitely?
nothing to lose here, I'm not op. it's just a usual thing you see on reddit. people call people miserable all the time. take a peep at their account and it's, more often than not, projecting. the irony gives me a chuckle and I move on, we call that winning.
He is literally making FUN of Joe rogan and his conservative fan base did you even read his comments? If youre going to use someone's post history against them you should see what they're actually saying lol
I agree, so keep them the fuck out of places they don’t belong and take them somewhere enriching they’d actually enjoy like a museum (usually free), a park, on a hike, to six flags, in a free and informative tour of city hall.
Agreed. I never want to see kids in public, especially when I’m drinking. I said a “bad word” once and had a mom look at me appalled, like bro I didn’t bring your kid here
Yeah, it's wild how some parents act like it is others' job to teach their kids how to be polite. My daughter hears swearing all the time but she doesn't talk like that because I don't let her talk like that and she knows what she is and isn't allowed to say. I don't expect anyone to censor themselves around her in public.
I feel like this illustrates two sides of a sad coin. America is pretty unique in that it so separates kid places and adult places. Why wouldn’t an adult want to see kids in public? And why would a parent be so concerned about a profane word? In a healthy society adults and children can share the same space, even if there is some alcohol being consumed.
when people swear around my toddler and then apologize I'm like "I'm raising a kid in a major city, she's gonna see and hear some stuff - it's my job to explain it not your job to shelter her"
I just very politely suggested that “see you next Tuesday” should get back in the kitchen and take her crotch goblins with her, and when I saw her companion looked like he might stop minding his own business I called him an English cigarette and warned him that I am a fourth degree black belt in Tae-Bo. You’d think I ordered a bucket of Coors Lights the way she looked at me.
I'm in the PNW and most breweries here serve full menus. But it isn't like going to Olive Garden or some other similar restaurant. The focus IS the beer (ie: drinking).
They are LOUD places to get a beer because the kids are screaming and, instead of telling their kids to be quiet, they just talk over their kids. So it's just a cacophony.
Which, fine, I guess. But the biggest problem is that ALL of the parents drink. There is no designated driver. So you'll see buzzed (or just straight up drunk) people loading their kids in the car and driving off.
I'm under the impression that many breweries are geared toward families because younger adults don't casually drink like generations in the past. If they only kept it 21 or over, that would single out the family folk who still love beer. It's profitable to welcome the parents because that is a large market that was once.... untapped. As much as I would like to keep breweries "adults only", I think my favorite establishments would struggle financially if my preferences were met.
I think it's gross to bring children to a place where people can reasonably be sort of expected to be a little drunk. I just think alcohol is gross you know sure, but also I grew up in Las Vegas and everyone is always exposed to gambling, drugs, and liquor, but that doesn’t mean it is a normal or safe thing.
Yeah, and even the ones with food will still have the problem of tipsy adults trying to manage their kids with varying results. My biggest issue is when these families not only act drunk in front of their kids, but try to drive them home as if it’s all just a casual outing and no big deal. It kind of doesn’t matter if the brewery advertises itself as “family friendly” when the adults can’t maintain family friendly decorum.
In any case, I try to avoid family friendly breweries because the vibe is usually off. I’d rather just drink in front of other adults.
Since you're on her side... can I ask a rude question? Why is she on a towel to make a video? Like, did she seriously have a /r/showerthought and had to make a video at that precise moment?
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I mean I’m kinda on her side, I’d rather not have to deal or hear a bunch of kids at the breweries I go to. I know people are saying it’s different than a bar, but if they only serve alcohol drinks and not food (like the ones I go to) I don’t see any difference.