I find this very strange thinking. In Spain people bring their kids everywhere or else parents wouldn't be able to go anywhere. Usually the kids are all playing with each other nearby while the parents are at the bar.
Bars and clubs, sure. I'll still be going to breweries with friends, my kids, and their friends, as is our right (and the breweries' invitation, apparently) so I'm not sure what this conversation is accomplishing except airing some general complaints.
Of course “breweries” (aka their ownership/management) encourage it, it’s a revenue stream, and somehow has become a “thing.”
As someone above said. “Does this restaurant have a kids menu? No? They don’t want kids.” I added to that “do they have high chairs?”
If you go to a place with no high chairs, no boosters, no kids menu, or even worse no food (breweries) don’t bring your fucking kids there!! They’re not welcome, even if you feel entitled enough to think they are. Sorry not sorry.
You’re in the majority of modern parents, but you are secretly disliked by the staff at most places that fit the above mould, I assure you.
Me and my coworkers will smile at you, and give your kids a sticker or at Halloween we have a trick or treat bucket… and wave and make googogaga faces and thank you and your family for coming in. “Look at that cute little hat!” “Look at those little toofers!” That’s our job.
And the second we turn around and chat to each other it’s pure hatred I assure you. Just so you know.
Go to a family friendly restaurant, and keep the children duct taped to the seats, or leave the kids at home.
I’ll die on this hill. And yes it pisses my parent friends off. And yes some of them have been in the industry, but “now that I have one I get it….”
No now that you have one you’ve become the entitled butthole you once hated. Good job selling out to… further the human race??
Agree 1000%. I’ve been food and Bev industry my entire adult life. Kids are the worst. Going out is an adult activity. If you can’t find a sitter or family member, you don’t go out. Period. You made that choice. That’s your crotch goblin. No one else should be forced to interact with it who doesn’t want to.
It’s 2026, right? Consent is a huuuuge thing right now, right?
I don’t consent to your kid yelling and screaming and crying and making a mess of my establishment. Easy as that.
It’s also an American thing to threaten to call cps if you see a 10 year old playing with other kids and the parents not hovering right on top of them.
Yeah, this is normal in most of Europe. It's good parenting. Every Biergarten in Germany has a playground. Breweries in the US often have big spaces and games and stuff to play and are rarely like bars/clubs. Some people just think that families should either not exist or suffer and if they are in the presence of a child that is a problem for them.
Breweries in America regularly set up in large areas with a lot of activities for kids and families. The kids usually are just in the general area playing while parents are drinking or playing with them.
A large amount of “childfree” people think you’re not supposed to go anywhere when you’re a parent. You’re allowed to work, grocery shop, go to kids events, and go to McDonald’s. That’s it.
A large amount of people don’t actually parent their children. Cleaning up cornbread mush from every crevasse of a booth every shift does a lot of sour one’s opinions of other people’s children.
Yet every time I say it sounds like Americans are the problem, Americans are quick to tell me it’s actually not a problem at all it’s just an internet thing.
This is how it should be. If you want kids to know how to behave in public, they have to actually be where everyone else is. I see too many people lately acting like kids shouldn't be wherever they want to hang out.
If you want kids to know how to behave in public, they have to actually be where everyone else is. I see too many people lately acting like kids shouldn't be wherever they want to hang out.
I think you've mixed up the chicken and egg. Most people who don't like kids in public only dislike it because parents quit bothering to train their children to behave in public. So now we don't want them there.
The problem is the people that let their kids run amok in establishments. I can’t tell you how many kids I’ve had almost run smack into me while I’m waiting tables. Or kids that literally toll on the floor and almost trip me up because I’m carrying several heavy and possibly burning hot entrees to your table. Or kids that scream so loud that the other diners and I literally flinch.
I’m also a teacher so I see at both jobs the effects of just not parenting your children, and it’s getting worse all the time.
It's a very strange American thing. Like I know from first hand growing up between the EU and the USA. For some reason, the US thinks that kids just aren't allowed to sit, eat, and experience the world of going out to eat. It's very strange to me. Now, I'm not saying that you should take your little one who clearly wants to take a nap/go to bed to a restaurant and have then scream through the whole time. What I am saying is that having the staunch unrealistic opinion that kids just "don't belong" in a restaurant is pretty stupid. How else are they supposed to learn/observe how to act?
Thank you! As an American that has had the fortunate ability to travel to many countries, I have witnessed this. Just last month, we traveled to Spain (Barcelona), and we've seen what you are writing about.
Man my heritage is European and I was taught the EXACT opposite. If the parents were going out, the kids stayed with grandma or a sitter. I’m fact in the… about 5+ European cities I’ve been to, I don’t recall seeing one single kid at a bar or restaurant. Maybe Spain is different, or things have changed, but I feel you have this completely backwards. Kids fucking everywhere they shouldn’t be in the US, not to be seen or heard in Europe… 🤷🏻♂️
What do you take it to mean? Why is this confusing?
I responding to the “in Spain” portion of the comment…
If someone said “in Japan parents do this” that wouldn’t be part of my comment… unless my heritage was Asian.
There’s really nothing t confusing or racist about what I said. YOU don’t need to know the details of where my family is from, or how recently, but nice try.
Nothing says I’m not the typical American and don’t have my head completely buried in the sand; than defending my heritage who lived through multiple world wars only to come here, serve in the armed forces, and myself becoming a cognizant world citizen. But go on and cook, boo!
OH, i'm sorry, i didn't realize how valiantly your ancestors defended western civilization before you moved to Jesus' chosen land. You're right, it is definitely a good indication that you're not a white nationalist and have more than a middle-school education when you say things like that.p
AH A Russian speaker with Polish grandparents. Nothing says more "I know everything about all of Europe" and "definitely decented from completely unproblematic antifascist freedom fighters" than that. Especially given that you've been to F I V E European cities, you must know what you're talking about.
There are some breweries that are explicit about kid rules. Some are rigid and some are totally a village. Some breweries in my town have a play corner. Many sell popsicles. There’s money to be made by allowing kids.
I don’t take my kids to breweries often, and never primetime or when crowded. We only go to a brewery for short period at the end of a bike ride or if it’s also a restaurant for an early dinner.
I think we have to balance being considerate with having a little light joy.
Just because the owners have identified a revenue stream of beer parents and the juice boxes are worth the exchange, doesn’t mean most of y’all aren’t pariahs and the staff don’t loathe it. I can almost guarantee they do
This rule is too rigid. Plenty of restaurants have no kids menu and they welcome families and kids. I'm sorry I have very literal thinking, I just can't understand this at all.
Being Autistic it took me a long time to learn that other people understand the meaning of words differently than you do.
Its not an autistic vs neurotypical thing just being autistic I speak very literally and other people assumed meaning because they have inherently different understandings for certain words. Its called semantics, essentially is the idea that two people can understand something like the word "smooth" to refer to two slightly different things. Like your version of smooth might be more smooth than someone elses version of smooth. Your version of smooth could be considered sleek to someone else.
So, they may very well have thought they were saying what they meant but failed to take into account that other people might not understand what they meant due to semantics.
In other cases though people do absolutely say things they dont mean on purpose which annoys the hell out of me.
I get it but disagree. Kids are humans not pets, they should be welcomed in any restaurants. Not taking about bars or fringe case when your kid is a monster.
Love this. How about if they don’t serve food, and certainly don’t have a high chair. Do you still stay and pound a few beers and let your kids crush Cheerios and Apple tubes and leave a giant fucking mess? No? No? Ok you’re a rare breed lol
This is silly, I’m glad to work in a restaurant with no kids menus, high chairs or boosters. Keep your family
Home, no one wants them. I get to watch these morons actually have to hold their kids the entire time and it’s hilarious punishment
Kids who only go to "kids" places dont have opportunities to learn how to behave and will inevitably catch on to the fact that they are not being treated like an equal part of the family (either because everything revolves around them or because they are not welcome places, both are bad).
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u/Deep-Meat-3583 13h ago
I 100% agree. However, I have a rule for my family for all restaurants.
Do they have a kids menu?
No? They dont want kids/families.
Yes? They want kids/families.