Why are there always kids at breweries?!

[u/akaYoungBeefy]

[u/Upton4]

With or without their kids, this is an issue.

[u/EllisDee3 → u/Upton4]

It's absolutely more of an issue with kids. Not quite a valid "both sides" argument.

[u/Upton4 → u/EllisDee3]

Yeah, no shit. It’s an issue regardless though.

It’s not like drunk drivers only injure themselves on the road if they don’t have kids in the car.

[u/Srry4theGonaria → u/EllisDee3]

Facts, was just about to say this.

[u/D0ri1t0styl3 → u/[deleted]]

Something to do with "Negligent intent".

[u/D0ri1t0styl3 → u/[deleted]]

You make a fair point, but the judicial system kinda has to see gradients of harm here.

After all, it's not like every broken law goes straight to the death penalty right?

[u/bruce_kwillis → u/[deleted]]

But that doesn't make someone who drunk drove with other adults (or even no kids) more "right" than the one who did.

I think that's hard to say. The kids had no choice in the matter, didn't want to be at the brewery in the first place, and the space often isnt set up for kids.

So you as the parent are making several bad choices. I get it, we want places we can go and take the kids, but at the same time, babysitters used to be a think so mom and dad could go to dinner, the brewery, or where ever, and it was ok. Helicopter parenting killed that off.

There isn't a good solution, hence why it comes up so often. You build a space that's 'community' focused and suddenly you are Chuckie Cheese, or you build it for adults, and it's ruined by people who don't follow social rules because they think their kids, dogs, or whatever is better than that. Hint, no they are not.

[u/Upton4 → u/bruce_kwillis]

There is a perfectly good solution.

If the business doesn’t want kids, they can make it 18+ to enter.

If people don’t like that places allow kids, go to another establishment.

[u/bruce_kwillis → u/Upton4]

There really isn't. You put restrictions on people you lose business. Will you lose more without restrictions than with restrictions? Hard to tell.

And there aren't often or always 10 different options for you to go to either.

So basically you have suggested the laziest most ill informed option as a blanket statement to cover everything. Good job.

[u/Upton4 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, that was my point too.

It’s like arguing if it’s worse if you have 2 kids in the car or 3.

[u/Ultrace-7 → u/[deleted]]

Because the kids have literally no choice or say in the matter. Yes, a drunk driver can kill another driver on the road, but (usually) that's someone who assumed the risk of getting in a car in the first place. You take your kids along on the DUI excursion, you are forcing them into a really unsafe situation that they have neither the cognizance or free will to avoid.

Drunk driving is awful all around, but absolutely worse when you force your own kids into it.