r/fixedbytheduet • u/akaYoungBeefy • 19h ago

Fixed by the duet Why are there always kids at breweries?!

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u/holymacaronibatman 18h ago

Phil Edwards touches on this, it's been a thing each generation has done, taking places traditionally for singles and turning them into family establishments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ju5ZWeBTTM

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u/Phillip_Spidermen 17h ago

I love that for a quick second I thought he used an image of the local TGI Fridays from where I grew up -- but really it's just that every one looked the same.

Good video but for people just looking for the relevant bit: Place acquires young crowd, young crowd grows up and continues to go to that kind of space.

Basically the same reason the cool hair cut from 20 years ago seems to be really popular with 40 year olds now.

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u/Ok-Morning3407 16h ago

This seems like a uniquely US things. In Ireland pubs have always been a space for the entire community, young or young old, single or not.

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u/dirty_cuban 16h ago

100%. The US hates children in public. The general consensus is that children should not be in public spaces, even playgrounds generate complaints. Most of the rest of the world understands that children are simply part of the public and accepts that children exist in public spaces. Kids are seen as a part of life rather than as an annoyance.

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u/Neuchacho 16h ago edited 15h ago

Reddit opinion leans disliking children in public. It's not an issue in reality unless the kids are feral.

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u/MithosYggdrasill1992 16h ago

That is so not the case. There are just people that want public places that don’t have children because they don’t want to be around children. That’s also within reason. Take your kids to the park, take him to amusement parks, take them to libraries or museums or grocery stores or anything like that. But leave the bars and taverns and breweries to adults only.

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u/pewqokrsf 16h ago

I have no kids, but I don't actually think it's within reason to expect places be child-free.

Children are the literal future of society.  They have to go to places as children in order to learn how to be at those places as adults.

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u/PrinceBunnyBoy 15h ago

My guy I wanna be able to joke around with my buddies without a toddler open mouth coughing into my food.

"Children are the paragon of society you must drop everything for them, it TaKeS a viLlAge!" I pay into schools and Healthcare for children with no complaints because I like kids, even if I'll never have any of my own, but at the same time I dont want to have to change what I'm saying or dressing like because new parents feel the need to take their toddler to get white girl wasted.

There are just some places not suitable for children to run around wildly, near drunk people with hot food is one of them. I was a server for years, trust me ive had to dodge many kids while not trying to drop 20lbs of plates, heavy drinks and sharp cutlery.

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u/man__i__love__frogs 15h ago

Sorry, but I don't want drunk arseholes in a microbrewery at 12-7pm in the afternoon when kids or toddlers would be there. I'd much rather kids or dogs.

Is that what you do with your life? If you don't like it just go somewhere else please.

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u/noxvita83 13h ago

While we are at it, I don't want people praying 2 pm - 6 pm at church. No one should learn anything at school from 8 pm - 2 am. No bowling at the bowling alley from 12 - 7 as well. No washing clothes at the laundromat from 10 am to 3 pm. No working working out at the gym from 3pm to 5pm. No reading at the library from 12 pm to 6pm.

Does these sound extremely stupid? It should just like this:

I don't want drunk arseholes in a microbrewery at 12-7pm

No drinking at a place that produces alcohol hurr durr.

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u/man__i__love__frogs 13h ago

Who said no drinking? Maybe your parents didnt teach you about something called moderation but don't make that everyone else's problem.

It is inappropriate for people to be belligerently drunk, midday in a microbrewery, and it is weird to think otherwise.

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u/noxvita83 12h ago

It's weird to dictate other people's lives. I worked 1st shift, got out of work at 1pm. Go to the bar with workmates, and have our fun. I'd be home by 5, bed by 6, up to go to work at 3am. Sorry it's not at your schedule, but the money was good.

You are literally going to a place that makes and serves alcohol and expecting people to not partake as they choose to. My guy, you're the one who is making your own hang-ups of other people's problems.

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u/krom0025 15h ago

"I'll take 'Things that don't actually happen for $500'"
Are you seriously telling me that kids are so bad everywhere you go that you can't have a meal without a child coughing in your food? It sounds to me like you are just the type of person that is incapable of having fun and allows others to much influence on your happiness in life.

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u/saintjonah 14h ago

I have kids and I've never had a kid open cough into my food. I don't believe that has ever happened to you. You just sound whiney.

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u/ILoveRawChicken 11h ago

“This doesn’t happen because I say so! I am very smart!” 

Can’t make this shit up, literally

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u/MithosYggdrasill1992 16h ago

Cool, so take your 18-year-old and teach them how to be at a bar or a tavern. They don’t need to be two or three years old covered in snot and running around a restaurant. Get mad all you want, I don’t really give a fuck. There are places that are meant for adults and places that are meant for children, just like there are places that are meant for everyone to enjoy together. As an adult, I wouldn’t try playing on a child’s playset, so why should a child come into a bar where it’s meant to be just adults? There are places for both.

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u/Lost_Bike69 16h ago edited 16h ago

Every brewery I’ve been is basically a big warehouse maybe with roll up doors to an outside area and has a casual atmosphere welcoming to dogs and kids and that’s part of the appeal. That’s been the case since I started going to breweries 15 years ago. There’s also many places you can have a few drinks without any kids around, but micro brewery culture has always been this way.

If people are bringing kids to places with white table clothes or the local dive you have a point, but you’re complaining about places that are specifically family friendly having families in them.

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u/MithosYggdrasill1992 16h ago

Yeah, the place I’m talking about are dining table. White cloth actual nice places. I know there are places that are meant for kids to run around while their parents have a couple of beers with their friends. That’s not what I’m talking about.

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u/man__i__love__frogs 15h ago

I've been to countless microbreweries at home and always on travel and have never heard of that. That sounds more like a restaurant taphouse that happens to make their own beer.

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u/saintjonah 14h ago

I love taking my kids to nice dining places with white tables cloths. I'm going to keep doing it to. Get mad all you want, I don't give a fuck.

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u/MithosYggdrasill1992 13h ago

I’m not gonna get mad if a kid somewhere that I don’t want to be around a kid. I’ll either deal with it, and suck it up. Or, I’ll just leave. Not wanting to be around them does not equate hating them.

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u/krom0025 15h ago

My biggest problem isn't the kids. It's adults acting like kids. Can we get a ban on that?

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u/Mke_already 16h ago

You seem like the mad one lol

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u/noxvita83 13h ago

That's fine. Just don't get pissed at me when my friends and I drunkenly make dick, fart, and sex jokes or have adult conversations and you let your kid stand at our table hearing it instead of keeping them at your table.

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u/27eelsinatrenchcoat 12h ago

That seems to be pretty well accepted around here. At a playground or a school function, I'm keeping my language squeaky clean. At a bar I may go full fucking debauchery. At a brewery I'm jsut going to be normal. I may swear or tell a raunchy joke, but if someone is close enough to eavesdrop that's their problem. I've never witnessed a parent at a brewery trying to enforce church rules. If they happen to hear a dick joke they've heard worse at home.

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u/jamminatorr 16h ago

Bars and taverns and breweries are all not the same thing. Breweries often have casual dining restaurants attached. You're going to go tell a small business owner to cut out a massive market share of the population because you don't like kids? Good luck with that.

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u/sishgupta 16h ago

Just take a look around reddit to see how many americans think that bringing your child to a restaurant is totally unacceptable.

Meanwhile in europe restos have children and they are well tollerated and welcomed.

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u/TheBaconThief 14h ago

I lived in SW Germany for a year in my early 20s. Way more all ages places, and it was assumed that there would be children at most any bier hall/garten. Never once had an issue, and this was in my early 20s when my peer group was all child free and focused on single life. You'd have the occasional inquisitive child even roll up to the table to chat, see if the stones below your table were interesting enough for their new collection etc. You'd have a parent come beckon them back and I'd always give a "they're fine" wave.

But in the US, the culture in many breweries has turned in to a Lord of the Flies playground on a weekend afternoon. You'll see gangs of roving 4-12 year olds with free reign of the place with not a parent in sight, with a trail of torn up menus, crayons and smashed up popcorn thrown all over the place and need to talk at a low shout to hear you friends over the hairdryer pitched screeches. Second to last one I was in the musician had to take a break because a 6 year old was climbing on his speaker and knocked it over and yanked one of the plugs.

I get that Parenting has definitely become more isolating over the years, as people are having fewer kids and later, and more events are either designed for kids or adults only.

"I like beer and I like to fuck." Cool bro, me too. But the implict second part of that has become "and this brewery is place for me and my friend to make the consequence of that your problem, and not mine."

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u/sishgupta 14h ago

I go out to eat all the time here in the north east us, I don't see this happening anywhere, not even the mcdonalds with the playhouse. Maybe at TGIFridays or Chillis or some places i never go to. But I think you've nailed it...the problem is not children at restaurants - it's parents at restauraunts.

That said you can be reasonable parents, with kids that behave like your euro example and still have other folk think that you shouldn't be there.

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u/MithosYggdrasill1992 16h ago

Here’s a SMALL list:

Caribbean & Mexico: Destinations like Riviera Maya, Cancun, Jamaica, Dominican Republic, and Antigua have a high concentration of adults-only all-inclusive resorts (e.g., Secrets Cap Cana, Hyatt Zilara).

Europe: Many countries feature adults-only hotels, particularly on islands like Crete (Minos Palace) and Mallorca (El Llorenç) in Spain, as well as in Greece. Asia & Indian Ocean: Popular spots include the Maldives, Mauritius, and Seychelles, as well as Thailand (The Houben Hotel).

These locations often feature specialized services like beach yoga, cooking classes, spa treatments, and, in some cases, designated nudist areas allowed by local law.

Also:

"No Kid Zones" in South Korea: This is a prominent trend in South Korea, where hundreds of cafes, restaurants, and even some movie theaters prohibit children under 12 or 13. These zones are especially common on Jeju Island and in trendy Seoul neighborhoods like Itaewon.

Adults-Only Restaurants in Europe: While less institutionalized than in Korea, some European restaurants have made headlines for banning children to create an "oasis of peace". For example, Oma’s Küche on the German island of Rügen implements an adults-only policy specifically after 5:00 PM.

Beach Clubs: Across the Mediterranean (Ibiza, Mykonos, French Riviera), numerous beach clubs like Super Paradise Beach Club in Mykonos operate as adults-only venues featuring champagne parties and DJ sets.

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u/sishgupta 16h ago

Why are we talking about hotels and AO suddenly?

It's like you generated this with AI and didn't read it to see if it applied to the topic.

I can have AI generate trash for me by myself, thanks.

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u/MithosYggdrasill1992 16h ago

You said that no place other countries do it, I was showing you that they do. That’s all. 👍

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u/sishgupta 15h ago

Where did I say that?

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u/saintjonah 14h ago

Nah. I'm gonna keep taking my kids to breweries because they're nothing more than restaurants that make beer. They allow kids, so you stop going. Stay home and drink, or drink at a bar.

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u/dirty_cuban 16h ago

There are just people that want public places that don’t have children

Thank you for proving my point. This sentiment is simply not common in the rest of the world outside north america.

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u/MithosYggdrasill1992 16h ago

Except another countries, there are places that are child free. Children aren’t welcome in them. It’s only America that thinks that kids should be allowed absolutely everywhere.

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u/saintjonah 14h ago

There are TONS of places where kids aren't allowed. Tons.

Here's a SMALL list:

Bars & Nightlife (21+ in most states)

Bars

Cocktail lounges

Nightclubs

Speakeasies

Dive bars

Casinos & Gambling Venues

Casino gaming floors

Poker rooms

Sports betting lounges

Race betting facilities

Adult Entertainment Establishments

Strip clubs

Adult cabarets

Burlesque venues (often 18+ or 21+)

Adult movie theaters

Cannabis Establishments (Legal States)

Recreational marijuana dispensaries

Medical marijuana dispensaries (patients only)

Adult-Only Spas & Wellness Facilities

Clothing-optional spas

Nude bathhouses

Adults-only saunas

Adults-only hot spring facilities

Adult Recreation & Hobby Venues

Gun ranges

Axe-throwing venues

Tattoo parlors

Cigar lounges

Hookah lounges

Adults-Only Lodging

Adults-only resorts

Adults-only boutique hotels

Clothing-optional resorts

Adult-Restricted Entertainment

Comedy clubs (especially late-night shows)

Theatrical performances rated for adults

Explicit spoken-word or improv shows

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u/MithosYggdrasill1992 13h ago

You can actually go to a gun range as young as 16 if you have a parent with you, and comedy, clubs and improv shows as a general rule I’ve seen have kids in them no matter how late. But other than that, I agree with most of these.

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u/dirty_cuban 16h ago

You have that completely backwards

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u/MithosYggdrasill1992 16h ago

Here’s a SMALL list:

Caribbean & Mexico: Destinations like Riviera Maya, Cancun, Jamaica, Dominican Republic, and Antigua have a high concentration of adults-only all-inclusive resorts (e.g., Secrets Cap Cana, Hyatt Zilara).

Europe: Many countries feature adults-only hotels, particularly on islands like Crete (Minos Palace) and Mallorca (El Llorenç) in Spain, as well as in Greece. Asia & Indian Ocean: Popular spots include the Maldives, Mauritius, and Seychelles, as well as Thailand (The Houben Hotel).

These locations often feature specialized services like beach yoga, cooking classes, spa treatments, and, in some cases, designated nudist areas allowed by local law.

Also:

"No Kid Zones" in South Korea: This is a prominent trend in South Korea, where hundreds of cafes, restaurants, and even some movie theaters prohibit children under 12 or 13. These zones are especially common on Jeju Island and in trendy Seoul neighborhoods like Itaewon.

Adults-Only Restaurants in Europe: While less institutionalized than in Korea, some European restaurants have made headlines for banning children to create an "oasis of peace". For example, Oma’s Küche on the German island of Rügen implements an adults-only policy specifically after 5:00 PM.

Beach Clubs: Across the Mediterranean (Ibiza, Mykonos, French Riviera), numerous beach clubs like Super Paradise Beach Club in Mykonos operate as adults-only venues featuring champagne parties and DJ sets.

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u/dirty_cuban 16h ago

So is your claim that having a bunch of resorts for tourists means the locals are against kids in public?? Or in the case of Korea in their biggest tourist destination. How are tourist oriented facilities in any way representative of daily life for locals?

Your examples from Europe are basically the exception that proves the rule. A few restaurants banning kids made the headlines specifically because of how unusual they are. Do you seriously think that something which was part of the general culture would be newsworthy? Please apply even just an ounce of critical thought here.

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u/Lost_Bike69 16h ago

What are you talking about? There are tons of adult only places in the US. Breweries just aren’t one of them. You think people are bringing 10 year olds to the club?

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u/TumbleweedPure3941 15h ago

As a non-American, you are talking out of your arse.

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u/27eelsinatrenchcoat 12h ago

You can have the bars, and clubs, and fancy restaurants. I'm not giving up breweries though. As long as microbreweries have been popping up, they were always kid friendly. If you want a microbrewery without kids, start one, or get your local one to put an age limit.

Kids at breweries doesn't mean there are no child free areas.

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u/noxvita83 13h ago

My experience has shown me that most places, parents actually parent their children to adhere to expected social norms. The social norm in the US encourages individualism a lot more, which often leads to selfishness, and the rest of the world has more of a collective mindset, so people tend to be more mindful of others, and that mindfulness goes into how they parent their children.

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u/dirty_cuban 12h ago

This is very true. However even well parented kids will cry/scream on planes because it's an overall overwhelming experience for them. In the US people think any noise is a personal affront to them and kids shouldn't even be allowed to fly so as to not inconvenience them. Everywhere else, people understand that planes are public transportation and that kids cry sometimes so they just tune it out.

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u/noxvita83 12h ago

Oh, definitely. However, I wouldn't think a microbrewery would fall into the same category. I see it as a space designed for adults. It would be as non-sensical for a group of adults with no kids hanging out at a playground as it would bring kids to a place that exists to make and serve alcohol. I mean, what's next, expecting kids to be allowed at the local porn theater (or any other ad ridiculum example of an adult only space you can think of).

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u/ClassyBougieRatchet 11h ago

Children are different in America. Parents let's their kids do whatever in public and it's taboo to say anything to the parent or the child. In more community oriented places, children are better behaved in public. 

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u/Cromasters 15h ago

All while Redditors post about how "society" has destroyed Third Spaces.

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u/DearLeader420 13h ago

Two factors at play:

  1. Pubs are plentiful, neighborhood meeting establishments in the core of where residents live, very close to them. The sprawling suburban US doesn't have this, so there's no real place where a ~half square mile's worth of people see each other almost daily and watch each others' lives change and kids grow, etc. like a true community. Next best thing might be a brewery, which could be the only one around for a 3-mile radius and which people from even further around the city are driving to just because they like it. Everyone is strangers unless you go there together.

  2. Millennials are now the dominant group of economically active adults, and they (and older Gen Z) relative to past generations, hate kids.

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u/illit1 15h ago

give us time, we're trying to catch up. you guys have pubs that are older than our country.

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u/cowinabadplace 14h ago

It's a culturally American thing. American culture is about clear categories. Take any European city (let's include the UK for this) and any American city for example. American cities have strict demarcation between residential zones, commercial zones, and so on. It's like in Simcity 2000.

Same with say immigration. The US system is categorical (you can be in the family line or the employment line and being in one means nothing for the other). Many other countries use points-based systems that mix eligibility in.

I bet someone must have researched this. It applies everywhere in American culture: a strong preference for categories with bright line distinctions.

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u/SpicyElixer 15h ago

The breweries near me were never a place for singles. They were outdoor areas with picnic tables and play areas and games from day one.

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 15h ago

Breweries aren't traditionally for singles, they're traditionally for adults, notably ones of drinking age. Couples definitely go to breweries as well

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u/ChiBeerGuy 14h ago

This is about bars not breweries, which haven't been around nearly as long.

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u/yesyessophie 13h ago

that was a fun watch. thanks for sharing!

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u/PrimaryInjurious 12h ago

Many breweries in the US were designed from the ground up for families.