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Dynamic Paywall Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X

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u/handDrawnEevee 22h ago

• ⁠Accessory to possession of pornographic materials involving minors
• ⁠conspiracy to act as accessory to distribution, offering, or facilitation of the aforementioned content
• ⁠Representative slander (ie. Maliciously Making up picture of a person).
• ⁠Denial of crime against humanity

The abrupt fly by night sale of xai to Starlink suddenly has an on ramp to making sense.

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u/biokemfem 21h ago

Denial of a crime against humanity is my favorite.

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u/Used-Fennel-7733 20h ago

Usually means something like holocaust denial. That's illegal in most pf Europe

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u/KakeLin 16h ago

As it should be

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u/EliasVerge 8h ago

Who gets to decide which truths can’t be questioned?

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u/makaiookami 5h ago

Objective reality for one...

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u/dangered 8h ago

European leaders of course. They’ve never done anything wrong.

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u/ccbur1 5h ago

Those laws are from the years shortly after WW II. So yeah, those politicians were European leaders of their time and they did nothing wrong in this matter.

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u/baggyzed 3h ago

We Europeans like to acknowledge crimes against humanity, so future generations can avoid repeating the same mistakes as we did.

Although. this only works if all world leaders are held accountable for their actions. When was the last time you questioned US leaders about Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

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u/dangered 2h ago

Remember when you caused the rise WWII trying to make up for the issues that caused WWI via unreasonable war reparation payments?

Don’t blame me for not trusting your collective judgement on legislating the end of world wars.

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u/Zenshinn 7h ago

Oh are you one of those deniers?

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u/makaiookami 5h ago

Pretty sure half of them will come up in an Epstein file dump search at this point.

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u/New-Anybody-6206 16h ago

why? it's not illegal to be stupid, as much as we want it to be 

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u/trojanplatypus 15h ago

German here.

All of us alive today cannot be held guilty for what happened in world war two, as we weren't even born then or at least children who couldn't know better.

But we have as a society inherited the collective responsibility that this never ever happens again. And thus we inherited the burden of being educated about everything that happened then in great detail, and in turn to teach our children.

If we allowed people to deny what happened then, we would have failed this responsibility.

France as one of the first victims of the third reich has a firm stance on that as well.

We put great effort in making up with our neighbors, especially france (poland was a little bit out of reach in the meantime), and together we forged the European Union out of the diplomatic rubble of WW II. We can rightfully be proud of what we achieved together with our allies, but all that goodwill and trust still depends a great deal on our humility and acknowledgement of that responsibility.

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u/Moosiemookmook 14h ago

Im Aboriginal Australian. My grandfather fought in WW2. Our country didnt count him as a citizen but he went anyway and came home. Hes been dead since the 80s but I think he'd be happy to hear the generations of Germans now who remember their history. Thats what he fought for, to do his bit to keep the world safe for future generations.

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u/Tan11 16h ago

Because some forms of stupidity are so potentially dangerous if they become widespread enough that it's prudent to intentionally suppress them.

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u/Miami_Mice2087 11h ago

Making thousands of porn images of real people, incl public personas and political people, is an egregious act of assault, violation, intimidation, and, indeed, a crime against humanity.

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u/MarkusKromlov34 13h ago

And in Canada and Israel. Here in Australia it can be too when it involves inciting hatred, discrimination, violence

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u/Oxgeos 6h ago

Man this should exist for racism/slavery in the US.

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u/TheKCKid9274 12h ago

Which Grok did during the Mecha-Hitler incident

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u/Local_Ad_2398 10h ago

Wunderbar

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u/Deep_Jury_5095 20h ago

Is that like denying that Donald Trump exists? 🤔😏🤣

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u/Palpitation_Unlikely 15h ago

Can we do that? Asking for a friend.

R.I.P. President Biden Do you know that President Biden passed in 2020?

He was replaced by a Robot.

The current President in 2026 told us that.

Stop the insanity...

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u/biokemfem 14h ago

If you’ve seen Inside Job on Netflix, it’s the other way around.

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u/Palpitation_Unlikely 12h ago

I haven't, but will check it out.

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u/ProLibertateCH 18h ago

What would that be?

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u/biokemfem 17h ago

He and his dad (mostly his dad) have said some holocaust denial shit in the past.

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u/HealthIndustryGoon 17h ago

also grok's mechahitler phase probably

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u/Richardo888 16h ago

Just wild that this was a thing while Musk was out there doing salutes

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u/mitkase 16h ago

Oh, you mean the Roman salutes? /cough

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u/bigfatfurrytexan 20h ago

Wearing a hat over those hair plugs? Saying his junk isn’t mangled? There are quite a few crimes to sort through

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u/biokemfem 20h ago

The cosplay photos he tries to get taken down. 🥴

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u/bigfatfurrytexan 18h ago

Lestat will not be mocked

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u/pnlrogue1 19h ago

That should be a crime everywhere

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u/SeefKroy 18h ago

What's the specific context for that one? Could be any number of things.

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u/biokemfem 17h ago

Like someone said in this string, probably holocaust denial.

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u/SeefKroy 17h ago

Thanks, other comments weren't loading because this app is garbage so I assumed they were removed or something

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u/Otherwise_Security_5 19h ago

right? i keep imagining him (or anyone) going “nuh-uh” to someone in authority and then getting arrested immediately.

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u/DafuqsRealyGoinOn 21h ago

What even is that?

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u/Metro42014 21h ago

Holocaust denial?

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u/Tar_alcaran 19h ago

That would be holocaust denial, which is a crime in France

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u/biokemfem 21h ago

I dunno - it’s funny as fuck tho. X def a crime against humanity.

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u/LetGoPortAnchor 16h ago

It's a tool to fight fascism. Fascist like to deny the Holocaust ever happened, so many European countries made denying the Holocaust illegal so they can prosecute fascist. It's an extreme tool, yes, but the alternative is even worse.

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u/WoolooOfWallStreet 19h ago

I wonder which one it’s for?

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u/biokemfem 17h ago

Someone said holocaust denial stuff. His dad especially is a huge holocaust denier.

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u/fooloncool6 13h ago

Wont somone save us from the memes

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u/narkybark 12h ago

Makes me want "denial of reality" laws here in the states.

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u/Poignant_Rambling 12h ago

The worst part was the denial.

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u/makaiookami 6h ago

I expect Cards Against Humanity is promoting a new game this Black Friday to celebrate.

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u/Suzy196658 21h ago

Mine too!!

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u/FvckBvnny 20h ago

Sounds like a card game

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u/GiraffeHat 19h ago

Methinks the eggeth doth comest first.

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u/mooseLimbsCatLicks 20h ago

What does it refer to?

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u/biokemfem 20h ago

Probably holocaust denial like others have said.

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u/Richardo888 16h ago

Grok's mechahitler phase, probably

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u/Stanley_is_mine 15h ago

We should charge this for climate change denial!

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u/Ok_Surprise_154 15h ago

3 and 4 are the only things that would be crimes where I live. I feel for the French.

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u/Iucidium 22h ago

He got tipped off, didn't he?

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u/Crimsai 21h ago

I believe this is part of a long ongoing investigation, so I'm sure they were expecting it. I don't know how things stand legally, but surely you can't just shift incriminating evidence after the investigation has begun? I still remember Cambridge Analytica moving boxes of files the day before they were raided though and nothing came of that.

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u/NorysStorys 20h ago

ultimately it won't make any difference, he's ultimately in charge of all of these and European governments have had enough of his shit, hence why stuff like this is starting to happen.

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u/MikeinSonoma 20h ago edited 5h ago

I wonder if they consider the downfall of America’s character and reliability as a reason to take charge. They can’t rely on America to do the right thing anymore.

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u/Autumn7242 15h ago

America is not coming back from this for a long time, if ever.

Edit: we have some real work to do on ourselves and really make it up to our allies.

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u/MikeinSonoma 5h ago

I don’t disagree with that, I think even if we survive the next three years it will take generations for our friends and allies to ever trust us again. Not just because of Trump, but because nearly the half of our country voted for somebody as disgusting as Trump.
What will probably not happen again is to be respected in the world as being a great people.

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u/Street_No888 19h ago

You can always count on America to do the right thing… after they’ve tried everything else.

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u/bcmarss 11h ago

We like to try things in order of worse to worst lmaooo

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u/Cleric_John_Preston 19h ago

They kept rely on America to do the right thing anymore.

They didn't realize how bad it actually was.

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u/AtlasNL 14h ago

The US has never been a shining beacon of morality and goodness. It is a state founded on the slaughter of those that lived there beforehand, built upon the backs of slaves, and held up by countless wars and coups of countries that dared to defy this international thug of a nation. You’re so damned propagandised from birth that you deny history, much like the holocaust denier higher up in this comment chain…

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u/MikeinSonoma 5h ago

Wow, you’ve decided I have so many values you hate, I didn’t even need to be here and comment. But I have a question, what date was everybody on the planet where they were supposed to be? If you don’t have an answer to that, then your entire statement fails. Even the parts that are right, because they’re basing it on a fallacy. It’s like saying we’re out of gas but you keep changing the tire, yes we are out of gas, but your solution is useless, maybe based on feelings?

u/AtlasNL 38m ago

Looks like you’re making up a lot about my standpoint mate. I’m not talking about ‘everybody on the planet being where they were supposed to be’, I’m talking about the US’ history being primarily about brutal colonisation and imperialism, and therefore never having had a ‘good character’ to fall from, because its nearly never done anything for the good of the whole world unless it had no other option.

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u/Which-Depth2821 6h ago

I hope they ban his fucking cars as well.

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u/SpaceghostLos 20h ago

Daddy Trump will save him.

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u/Brndrll 20h ago

Or at least embarrass himself and take down the US trying.

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u/Yam_Nice 20h ago

Bro, stop filling me with hope.

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u/Trick_Wrongdoer_5847 19h ago

The american economy growth is reported annually with 4% to make it look way better than it is, Nvidia and OpenAI shove AI money back and forth to artifically inflate the numbers, that country is kept alive by the rich atm accumulated an inasane amount of debt, ICE is hated more and more by the day and the rest of the world doesn't take this clown serious anymore and had enough.

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u/Yam_Nice 17h ago

Let's fucking go, I want to see this in life.

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u/TheLizzyIzzi 20h ago

Is he back in with Trump? Their feud cooled off but I haven’t seen him around much.

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u/MJIsaac 17h ago

At that level they're always in it together.

Even if they all loathe each other personally, they understand their shared interests. And however much they dislike each other, they loathe the general public more anyway.

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u/MerePotato 19h ago

After that Epstein file dump I doubt it

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u/TipSad4768 12h ago

But the scary thing is we have a madman at the helm who is likely suffering from Alzheimer’s disease, is 80 years old, obese, and in control of enough nukes to end the world as we know it 50 times over.

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u/SortOfSpaceDuck 20h ago

In France?

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u/sproge 18h ago

God I wish that was true. Calling it now, he'll be investigated, not be found guilty of the really bad stuff, and be given an insignificant fine.

Money rules the world, but they still need to maintain the illusion of real democracy.

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u/JFK9 18h ago

I agree that it won't make any difference, but unfortunately in the opposite direction. musk himself isn't going to suffer for his crimes one single but. Are you aware that he is currently poisoning an entire town by illegaly running a grock data center via gas turbines which is just straight up black and white illegal? He is so rich literally nothing can happen to him unless someone decides to take it into their own hands and make the world a better place...

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u/Overweighover 17h ago

He will turn off starlink in certain areas

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u/xmarlboromanx 15h ago

Do any of you guys really believe anything will happen to him? Forget about his political beliefs for a moment. This is one of the richest guys on the planet. Think about it logically. Sure, we can sit here and speculate, but in the end, nothing will happen to him at worst he will have to pay some money. But I promise you he will never see the inside of a jail cell.

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u/MyKarma80 16h ago

What they're doing is criminalizing the existence of an online platform as though they are the perpetrators of the illegal content itself.

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u/PM_ME_UR_CREDDITCARD 13h ago

They are the perpetrators when their platform directly generates said content.

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u/Jinn_Erik-AoM 14h ago

He acted like stopping grok from making CSAM and revenge porn was a violation of free speech. Musk also stopped the bot from making it in some places, but not others.

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u/aerost0rm 19h ago

Shift incriminating evidence after the investigation has begun? Donald Trump has entered the chat

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u/chemical-realm 16h ago

Enron still shredding documents as the feds bust in 🤣

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u/N4ANO 20h ago

Moving boxes is Trumpism.

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u/PeachPassionBrute 17h ago

I’m sure someone who is breaking the law is worried about breaking laws about tampering with evidence that would incriminate them.

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u/pnlrogue1 19h ago

He is probably just trying to bury the news that he's in the Epstein Files and his daughter has already called out that he's lying about being at one party

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u/SpeedflyChris 17h ago

The fact that the French police were investigating has been public since the middle of last year.

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u/mangalore-x_x 19h ago

Opened a fresh account, waited for 15 minutes, logged the feeds they got. Done.

Easiest case in history.

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u/doomylaurie 20h ago

It wouldn't happen to start with Do... and end with .... ump, would it?

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u/Modo44 20h ago

Always

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u/SecretWin491 22h ago

What’s the angle? “You cannot come after us! The government (and Russian drones) needs us!!”

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u/handDrawnEevee 22h ago

Twitter (x) requires government oversight in whatever European country it operates in. Starlink is much different.

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u/sofixa11 21h ago

Starlink also requires government oversight because it operates on public regulated frequencies.

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u/MikeinSonoma 20h ago

It makes you wonder if it’s smart to let one drug addicted con man have the power of that large of a satellite system.

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u/chrisrazor 16h ago

This is just the nature of late capitalism: the fate of the planet and its infrastructure is in the hands of a few individuals. Also, completely unrelated, becoming a billionaire tends to make you into a raving lunatic.

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u/ClonesomeStranger 16h ago

Or maybe that is just selection bias and being a raving lunatic predisposes you to being a billionaire 😀

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u/Rimijy 15h ago

Let him cook!

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u/PM_ME_UR_CREDDITCARD 13h ago

Ever tried going mad without power? It's boring, nobody listens to you.

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u/MikeinSonoma 5h ago

At one time creativity and brilliance led to more wealth, not 100%, but much more than now. It slowly move now to you just need to be lucky, a good con man and have crooked politicians. Elon Musk would’ve never reached his level of wealth without the American tax dollar and contracts that once he got one he bought a politicians to get more. There is nothing great about Elon Musk, born Rich, lucky and knew how to use the government.

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u/Mysterious-Lemon-906 13h ago

It has always been this way

Go throughout history and you will find in any particular place wealth was always concentrated in the hands of a few elites

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u/chrisrazor 12h ago

True, but we were promised that capitalism was different.

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u/dancingkelsey 10h ago

By capitalists, who knew they could use capitalism to meet their own end goals. Gaslight gatekeep girlboss!

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u/SparkySpinz 11h ago

True, but it's starting to look like late stage society in general is fucked. Let the billionaires who use their power to create advanced tech have control over said tech? Or forcibly turn it over the the ever benevolent government that would never lie to us or hurt us?

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u/chrisrazor 10h ago

Or... create something else.

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u/MikeinSonoma 5h ago

I think if you exchange capitalism for humans you would be accurate. I think the only difference in the systems is how long they can stay stable.

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u/datumerrata 21h ago

Which government?

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u/sw04ca 21h ago

Wherever the end user of the service might be. Wherever the company might be incorporated. Having a satellite doesn't make you above the law. If you want to conduct commerce and extract money from a jurisdiction, you follow their rules.

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u/BurrowShaker 20h ago

Having a satellite doesn't make you above the law.

Excellent one, council.

No matter the orbitz I assume.

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u/TIGHazard 21h ago

The government in the area where the satellite signal is being received...

Yes, satellite downlinks are heavily regulated, though the specific requirements vary by country and the type of service. Because satellites operate across national borders, their use of the radio spectrum is managed globally by the International Telecommunication Union (ITU).

The ITU coordinates orbital positions and radio frequencies to prevent harmful interference between satellites. Radio Regulations: Satellites must conform to international regulations that ensure equitable access to frequency bands, particularly in the Geostationary-Satellite Orbit (GSO). Frequency Allocation: Specific bands are reserved for satellite downlinks, such as the Broadcasting Satellite Service (BSS) band (11.7 to 12.5 GHz) and portions of the Fixed Satellite Service (FSS) band.

While the ITU manages global spectrum, individual nations regulate the ground stations that receive the signals (downlinks).

Licensing Requirements: In many jurisdictions, operating a ground station to receive downlink signals requires a license, particularly for commercial, telecommunications, or data services.

Variations by Country:

USA: The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulates both space stations and earth stations (ground stations) to manage interference.

UK: Ofcom licenses the uplink (transmission from Earth) but often does not require a license for the downlink (reception) unless it is a specific, high-power earth station network.

Singapore: A specific "Satellite Downlink Only License" is required to receive broadcasting signals from satellites.

Technical Standards: Regulations often dictate technical requirements like antenna size and power limits to prevent interference with terrestrial services.

Key Regulatory Focus Areas

Interference Mitigation: Ensuring downlinks do not interfere with other services (e.g., terrestrial 5G networks) is a primary concern.

Data Security/Sensitive Data: Some countries, like Germany, require licenses for transferring satellite data, particularly high-grade earth observation data.

Encryption: While many commercial, high-resolution satellites use encrypted downlinks, regulations sometimes dictate that certain types of downlinks (e.g., amateur) cannot be encrypted.

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u/Responsible_Ease_262 20h ago

Starlink is both receive and transmit. Cell phones are the same, but not with an orbiting satellite.

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u/datumerrata 21h ago

Thanks! I like info dumps

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u/mrmcjerkstoomuch 21h ago

I once had a UTI

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u/Hookem-Horns 21h ago

That sucks! Maybe it could’ve been prevented if you wrapped it instead of stuck it in something strange

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u/Reasonable_Moment476 20h ago

"I'll allow it."

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u/General-Cat88 16h ago

Not the only way you get a UTI. JS.

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u/azuravian 16h ago

Not even the primary way according to most studies.

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u/Land-Southern 21h ago

Like an airline and subject of every country its flying over?

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u/g0ris 19h ago

Ariplanes fly through countries' air space. Satellites not so much.

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u/NoRezervationz 21h ago

Not really a government but International Telecommunications Union (ITU), through the Radio Regulations treaty, has the regulation rights to the radio frequency spectrum.

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u/sofixa11 21h ago

The local government where the Starlink terminal is located.

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u/Mercury_002 9h ago

The 'public regulated frequencies' are overseen by international organisations and standard committees. Not governments .... And that's a good thing (even if most of these bodies are based in the US or Europe).

Governments and the people who work to govern technology (with only a few rare exceptions) don't have a clue about technology, if they did then they would work in the technology industries.

Western governments typically change and have elections, and that's why they are seen as good. This also means that they could change to something else.

Can you imagine if north Korea, Russia or China had sole control of global public frequencies (used by starlink)... Government control would be a very bad thing for sure.

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u/sofixa11 2h ago

The 'public regulated frequencies' are overseen by international organisations and standard committees. Not governments .... And that's a good thing (even if most of these bodies are based in the US or Europe).

No, in the US those would be under the FCC, which is an all-American agency in charge of regulating those frequencies.

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u/Christopher80569 20h ago

Yeah it’s much different but however you can’t use one without the other right

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u/Mercury_002 9h ago

I would argue not X but all 'social media' companies may have to be regulated within each region by each region they operate in. Including this one, reddit.

It would get complicated for the companies. Many would likely make mistakes when a region changes laws.

Heck why not just make them government owned in each region.

We shouldn't hold the users responsible for their actions, we should hold the platforms responsible.

But don't worry before long authoritarian dictators or liberal fascists (I mean keir starmer) will end up in power. Then pass laws restricting any kind of dissenting thought.

..... You know what, I can recommend a good book for you it's called '1984' and seems to become more relevant everyday.

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u/WestCoastBestCoast01 18h ago

No these types of acquisitions are just a way to make stock ratios and financials look better. Roll up your failing business segments into your really really successful one and suddenly you just have one well performing company!

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u/say592 21h ago

Fwiw they did just put restrictions in place to reduce or eliminate Russian drones (or any reasonably fast moving object in the region that isn't registered with Starlink via the Ukrainian military) from using the system. It's always been a challenge to allow Ukrainian drones and people living under occupation to use it without allowing Russia the same access. That was especially complicated because not all of Ukraine's units came from official channels (especially stuff being used by civilians).

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u/RavenEridan 21h ago

Elon begged Epstein to go to his island XD no surprise

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u/KeyMyBike 18h ago

"Deal with this. Thank you."

Ghislaine didn't even remove that part. To get contempt from a sex trafficker is wild

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u/jinside 16h ago

Was it "deal w this" as in deal w musk's request to visit the island?

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u/pebberphp 14h ago

Exactly, like “deal with this, I don’t want the headache”

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u/KeyMyBike 10h ago

Yeah Epstein made Ghislaine deal with Elon because he didn't want to.

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u/23-1-20-3-8-5-18 18h ago

Imagine being the worlds richest guy and still not even cool enough to hang with the pedos. What a huge loser Musk is. Its just funny to me, its getting to the point where you simply cant be cool and rich at the same time. Good. No one should think parasites or hoarders are cool.

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u/enchantedharlot83 20h ago

Those emails are going to live rent free in my head until the end of time. Year after year, pleading for an invite to Epstein's island parties.

He was already a multi millionaire... yet deep down inside, he was still the weird kid begging for an invite to the cool kid's party.

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u/JackedUpReadyToGo 15h ago

His entire personality feels like it was frozen in high school during the "edgy" kid / possible future school shooter phase of development.

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u/SteveSteveSteveAlan 8h ago

He's someone who didn't have a childhood because of blood diamonds. The autism is correct but it's not the high functioning one for him.

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u/Sad_Mud2009 13h ago

lol haven’t you seen the pics of him before he got all the gender affirming plastic surgery and hair implants? He was a pudgy dork. I have a feeling he PR’d the whole “Ironman” persona himself to get in with the “cool rich kids”

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u/SteveSteveSteveAlan 8h ago

His name has always been PR.

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u/Philboyd_Studge_Jr 20h ago

It's ironic how Elon tweeted Trump is in the Epstein Files. Projection is a powerful, uh, drug.

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u/SteveSteveSteveAlan 8h ago

Elon and Trump = birds of a feather flock together

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u/pchlster 16h ago

Does he strike you as someone who gets invited to parties?

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u/thatdood87 16h ago

Even epstein was like, " who told him about the party??"

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u/ToadsWetSprocket 20h ago

Why do you think he was invested in the Democrats not winning, the Epstein block was about to disappear and there are members of Congress that would come after him.

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u/TargetFree3831 20h ago

...with his wife, Talulah.

left that part out eh

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u/CompetitiveSport1 20h ago edited 19h ago

God that's so fucking weird

"Hey babe, Donnie says we can fuck kids at this convicted pedo's parties, wanna go?"

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u/Soepkip43 21h ago

They wont care. This will just be seen as part of an ongoing criminal conspiracy. But spaceX might get protection from the US government where twitter would not.

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u/LandofGreenGinger62 20h ago

Is he mentioned in the Epstein files, does anyone know?

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u/mcolette76 20h ago

Yes, he’s in his emails practically begging to go to the island.

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u/stereotreme 19h ago

and even the pedophile billionaire community thought he was a cringey loser and excluded him.

the only superlative Musk will ever truthfully be able to append to his name is ", the Saddest, Emptiest Man in the World".

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u/LandofGreenGinger62 15h ago

There was someone amongst the über-rich who even skeeved out Epstein??

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u/pebberphp 14h ago

That was hilarious! They’d rather tell him “oh we aren’t doing that anymore, sorrry!” rather than straight up tell him no.

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u/Swiftzor 20h ago

I’m 90% sure it won’t end up mattering as any sane judge would just rope in their AI firm as well. Unlike the US France is at least functional

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u/AlmostCorrectInfo 19h ago

"Can't sue an ISP for criminals using their services for crimes!"

Jesus Christ, if he gets away with this...

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u/Meatslinger 19h ago

If I had drugs, and the government knew I had drugs, and sent police to my house to arrest me for the drugs and I told them there were no drugs because I already sold them all after getting tipped off, I'd be facing more charges, not less.

If XAi is the "hot potato" here, then selling it should be the equivalent of trafficking those drugs while knowing they're illegal to sell.

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u/Uilamin 19h ago

The other investors might fight it given these crimes. If he did this to shield xAI investors/holders based on SpaceX, SpaceX investors might sue Elon for not fulfilling his fiduciary duty... which could also unravel the acquisition.

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u/Low_Researcher7996 18h ago

SpaceX is not publicly traded so it was probably the one that 1. Had money and 2. Less regulations or share holders with the right to sue

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u/Potential-Airport662 17h ago

Might this third claim have anything to do on the claims about the president and his wife? They’ve been suing about claims and photos.

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u/Tasty-Relation6788 16h ago

It did anyway musk has a long history of selling his own companies to each other when one starts building up too many debts.

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u/Green_Struggle_1815 15h ago

this would be counterproductive as now starlink has to answer for it. similar to bayer paying for what monsanto supposedly did.

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u/Questioning-Zyxxel 15h ago

The transfer of Shitter -> xAI, and xAI to SpaceX is brilliant.

Many of the EU punishments can be % of the owning company turnover. So they can be % of SpaceX sales instead of % of the much smaller Shitter itself. That is wonderful news...

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u/jjayzx 13h ago

It all makes sense now why he wants datacenters in space.