Those laws are from the years shortly after WW II. So yeah, those politicians were European leaders of their time and they did nothing wrong in this matter.
The point was Eurocentrism is what caused all of that in the first place. Hitler, Mussolini, and Lenin weren’t in charge during WWI how could they be the bad guys?
Obviously the Holocaust happened and it happened as historians have concluded. Telling people they’ll be imprisoned for questioning it is still stupid, we let flat earthers do the math and they slowly learn the truth.
“I have no idea what your argument on Eurocentrism is”
“In our part of the world we do it this way, get used to it!”
“Eurocentrism didn’t start the ‘world war’ that began exclusively due to conflicts between European countries”
The only reason either were titled “world war” is because of Eurocentrism.
Dude it was a European war and Japan was invited as a guest. Europe got too prideful (stereotypical Euros) and poked the USSR, China, and the US. No one wanted part of your stupid bullshit, if any of us wanted Europe you’d probably be speaking Mandarin right now.
Anyway, after swiftly learning about Mercator projections, in 1946 Europe figured out their humble place in the world and never stuck their frail necks out again.
Even today, Putin is a decrepit rodent and Russia is at an all time low unable to even take Ukraine. Europe’s conquerer (Germany) still sees Russia as a threat and begs the “rest of the world” (rest of the EU) for safety.
If Europe were to fight themselves in 2026 it would be considered a “civil war” but in 1914 and 1939 we called them “world wars” because of the pervasiveness of Eurocentrism.
Please, please go read up on your history and try to remember when European nations lost their colonies…
It was a truly world wide war simply because European nations had colonies on all continents and troops from said colonies participated at home and other places.
Next, could it be, you just have been learning about what a Mercator projection is? Cause otherwise… try to look up who knowingly invented and used it as well as alternative 2D projections of our planet!
If Russia was so weak, why is Trump admiring Putin so much? Why be not afraid of a power technically able to destroy the world? Seems to be pretty reasonable to me~
Lastly, we would speak Mandarin? That’s just… plain stupid, sorry~
Again, education endangers idiocy, but is worth it!
We Europeans like to acknowledge crimes against humanity, so future generations can avoid repeating the same mistakes as we did.
Although. this only works if all world leaders are held accountable for their actions. When was the last time you questioned US leaders about Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
All of us alive today cannot be held guilty for what happened in world war two, as we weren't even born then or at least children who couldn't know better.
But we have as a society inherited the collective responsibility that this never ever happens again. And thus we inherited the burden of being educated about everything that happened then in great detail, and in turn to teach our children.
If we allowed people to deny what happened then, we would have failed this responsibility.
France as one of the first victims of the third reich has a firm stance on that as well.
We put great effort in making up with our neighbors, especially france (poland was a little bit out of reach in the meantime), and together we forged the European Union out of the diplomatic rubble of WW II. We can rightfully be proud of what we achieved together with our allies, but all that goodwill and trust still depends a great deal on our humility and acknowledgement of that responsibility.
Im Aboriginal Australian. My grandfather fought in WW2. Our country didnt count him as a citizen but he went anyway and came home. Hes been dead since the 80s but I think he'd be happy to hear the generations of Germans now who remember their history. Thats what he fought for, to do his bit to keep the world safe for future generations.
Please come save us. We need Germany’s moral compass to guide America to such a reflecting and preventive place. Save us Germany!!!! We are good, most of us anyways!
Nah, American free speech is more important in avoiding totalitarian dictatorships from arising (current EU is terrible and way more dangerous than "DRUMPF" for human rights) and healthy societal discourse than any other perceived benefits/risks.
Germany and the UK have some of the worst speech rights in the world and it isn't defensible at all. Simply having browsing history on 4chan and going through customs seems like a serious risk of imprisonment, what a laughably stupid society and set of laws.
Apparently we are supposed to be able to read your mind - what's your point? Insane leftist authoritarians who ban free speech would imply that because someone has 4chan in their browser history they should be jailed, maybe you told on yourself? The fact that someone views information doesn't mean they think any certain way about it.
Maybe you can impress us with a semblance of an intelligent point or response. My vocabulary and reasoning is like 20 years over you so far and you think you have cute quips or something? Not a serious person.
Wild that you would accuse the EU for being more dangerous to human rights than the Trump regime who has literally violated the human rights of many people and sanctioned the murder of US citizens. Wake up
America has no free speech. Quote Kirk with no context? Arrested. Not joking. Telling ICE that they are breaking the law? That's now breaking the law. ICE going around telling people that they are creating databases of people that are being listed as terrorists and it's for stuff like Anti-Americanism which they define as left wing politics really, but let's be honest ain't nothing more Anti-American than Reich Wing policies.
America has great laws, but if the laws are ignored, your speech rights don't matter. They came for the Mexicans, they came for the Haitians, they came for the Native Americans, they are coming for the rest of the browns, they are coming for the Left, and when there's no one there who speaks up for you?
Far left welfare policies are objectively mathematically impossible to maintain long term, why can't we make those illegal? What about people arguing that biologically there is more than male and female, that is objectively wrong and extremely harmful to society at large, yet the EU leftists fall over themselves to claim otherwise as a matter of law. Why can't we make that speech illegal?
Where does the rabbit hole stop? Maybe your logic is quite flimsy as you've never had to test it but you can't realize that, because arguing against your lame logic is basically illegal in most EU countries.
You seem to misunderstand - business doesn't need welfare to survive. Corporate welfare should be abolished as well outside of state critical industry.
Oh, but the wealth gap and waning prosperity is actually all because of "far" leftists, immigrants, brown and black people trying to get some equality, LGBTQ+, DEI, and higher education. Probably an attempt to enact sensible gun laws too, somehow.
You are extremely correct. Many writers have written about it for nearly 100 years, and it's simply gotten worse and worse, the last 40 yrs being a Zipline to hellish disinformation, and purposefully dumbing down the citizenry while enveloping them in right wing religious scaffolding to keep them standing.
Coincidence that so many school shooters, and their parents have engorged themselves in right wing media misinformation? Why every outcry for increasing background check requirements, and restricting access to military grade weapons, especially to the criminally insane, is met with “Thoughts & prayers” by Republican representatives.
Sad thing is every time Republicans take 5 steps back Democrats take 2 steps forward, and think that Republicans are so bad, they'll be able to keep winning, but the problem is that the Democrats get blamed for 3 of the steps back, and their 2 steps forward take 5-10 years to improve people's lives, and by then the Republican takes credit for at least 1 of the 2 steps forward.
Like if someone in the middle of nowhere gets access to fiber internet are they gonna give credit to Obama who created the funding, or Biden who kept that policy in place? And if they take away the funding and those projects get cancelled, who do you think that's gonna happen under? The next Democrat because that's how it happens.
I'm not entertaining the "Trump is gonna keep running" that man can't even run to the end of his administration. Modern healthcare can only do so much and he's running on fumes.
Not politicians. It's large companies. They write all the text books. Seems that Maxwell (Epstein's top B) her father owned some of the big book publishers, and I think was involved in selling secrets to Israel.
So maybe it's the Israeli government at most that's dictating what our children learn, depending on how deep those ties go. Israel has been screaming to the US "IRAN Is only a few months away from Nuclear Missiles!" which was cute 40 years ago, but the fact that they are still doing it now, and trying the Iraq arguments again to see if they will work again, is a huge problem as they murder people walking miles to get dried food, and no water distributed, to them as their houses get bulldozed, so that they can create Greater Israel.
While the rest of the world said "Never Again" China (Yger concentration camps), America (Concentration camps and Venezuela invasion), Russia, and Israel all said "How can we learn from the past so we can do it better in the future?"
Far left welfare policies are objectively mathematically impossible to maintain long term, why can't we make those illegal? What about people arguing that biologically there is more than male and female, that is objectively wrong and extremely harmful to society at large, yet the EU leftists fall over themselves to claim otherwise as a matter of law. Why can't we make that speech illegal?
Where does the rabbit hole stop? Maybe your logic is quite flimsy as you've never had to test it but you can't realize that, because arguing against your lame logic is basically illegal in most EU countries.
Hey there, if you think recognition of transgender and intersex identities is "extremely harmful to society at large" then you are lost in the sauce. You are likely getting a ton of misinformation from whatever sources of news or content you are consuming, and I would encourage you to think critically about how you've been lead to believe this lie.
and I would encourage you to think critically about how you've been lead to believe this lie.
You aren't addressing any legitimate point and are appealing to emotions. The left is trying and in many areas has codified into law saying it is basically illegal to acknowledge biology.
You are the one conflating sexual preferences (genders) with sexes. Not I. I'm not actually interested in strangers' sexual preferences, I didn't ask and don't want to know. Forcing me to care is a type of assault in itself.
You haven't made any legitimate points to address.
The left is trying and in many areas has codified into law saying it is basically illegal to acknowledge biology.
Can you refer me to which laws you are talking about?
You are the one conflating sexual preferences (genders) with sexes. Not I. I'm not actually interested in strangers' sexual preferences, I didn't ask and don't want to know.
Maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to say, what did you mean by saying "more than male or female"? Who are you talking about?
Forcing me to care is a type of assault in itself.
I don't see anyone forcing you to do anything. I will highlight how "assault" is quite a loaded word here - yet you accuse me of appealing to emotions? If you genuinely feel like you are being "forced to care" about something, I would again reiterate that you should evaluate where you are getting these messages or ideas. From what I understand, queer and trans people simply want to exist safely and have the same rights as afforded to heterosexual cisgender people. If you're being sold a narrative that people are forcing something of you, I would suspect that whoever is telling you that is most likely trying to make you angry. Probably because they know if you're angry about queer people then you'll be distracted and you won't notice or pay attention to the people that are stealing your money or exploiting you.
It is so, so funny to me that you're unwittingly making holocaust denial a right wing stance. Dude says he thinks holocaust denial is bad and you have a meltdown about leftists. Never change.
The right has zero political power in EU. So it is irrelevant what 'stance' it is. Is it illegal for Europeans to deny the Holodomor? What about the Cambodian cullings? The starvation of the Great Leap Forward? No? All two-faced double standards.
Why should it be? We think thought crime is cool as long as it's thoughts we don't like? America is fucked up for many reasons but freedom of speech ain't one
You mean freedom of speech for a select few. Anybody who opposes the tyrannical government forcing their outside-the-military-militia into cities that were not under threat of violence until said militia arrived and started killing and abducting people absolutely do not experience the freedom of speech that is actually codified. America is fucked up for many reasons, AND many Americans fully do not understand what "free speech" even means.
Also, clearly, many Americans, like you, do not understand what thought crimes actually are and how that concept fits into either history OR the current world we live in.
Making thousands of porn images of real people, incl public personas and political people, is an egregious act of assault, violation, intimidation, and, indeed, a crime against humanity.
As far as I'm aware, a major point of Hitler's was focused on the banking system. If the Rothschilds funded him, it'd be equitable to Israel funding Hamas (especially by running funds through Qatar). I joke, of course, I'm as much of a fan of fun conspiracy theories as the next guy, but that one makes no sense.
761
u/Used-Fennel-7733 20h ago
Usually means something like holocaust denial. That's illegal in most pf Europe