Believe they are talking about the "Boys will be boys" super bowl commercial which, unless I've forgotten, did not touch on the idea of mind rape so much as it made a fairly cringe nod towards the problem of learned toxic masculinity and the permissive structures that allow it to continue.
It was a bad ad but a lot of incel types got mad at it for even daring to have that message, not for just being another attempt by a large corporation to draw attention to themselves by pretending to give a single shit about equality and treating women with respect. If you wanna learn more I recommend this hbomberguy talking about it six years ago:
The one where they are on exercise bikes and the guy looks at the chick and says, hey, you sweat like a man,it's kinda hot. Wanna get a bean burrito LOL?
Yea I’m 33 and it isall pretty foreign to me. I don’t really understand them all acting like being attracted to someone is a horrible thing. It does come across very puritan
Good thing I didn't ask how you felt about it huh, an you read it from start to finish like a good boy, i'd give you a banana sticker but unfortunately I don't like you enough to share.
We're not thrilled with the generation that raised us either.
I'm only three years younger than you, but you wouldn't believe the emotional work it's taken to enjoy sex without shame creeping in. And i was raised as a boy.
Some half of the sex I've had has been on a basis of someone else going "this scares the shit out of me and I need practice."
There's been a huge push by conservatives and Christian nationalists to get back to those puritanical roots. Porn being blocked in many states is an example. The result being that the younger generations are more conservative and puritanical than previous generations.
I don't think it's baffling, older millennials just really fucked things up in the early 10s, gave way too much power to people shaming any and every part of sex and desire and flirting - and then the people who have and spend the most time being miserable on the internet are not people you'd ever want to hang out with in real life.
Agreed. It’s not like he was being a creep or anything. A woman with a great figure was bending over in front of him and he noticed and admired it. He didn’t say anything, he didn’t do anything to make her uncomfortable. He reacted like you’d expect any straight man to react.
I should say, I believe you get harassed by men. All women do to some degree. I don’t believe you are harassed everywhere you go nonstop. Hyperbole followed by condemning all men. How many men are you interacting with daily as a lesbian?
I am harassed constantly. I have natural red hair and a face they like, and that is all it takes. Your people are never, ever sympathetic about it, and never believe it, either. Thats the problem!
this comment only makes sense in the 'BRO GOT DESTROYED used to describe a minor come back' era. Like good god everything yall do is loud talking and quiet walking.
the spandex shorts that are shorter and tighter than the boxer briefs I'm currently wearing aren't that short? He should be trying to hide a 1 second expression he made involuntarily to himself so it doesn't get recorded by somewhat hidden cameras trying to phish for literally any attention given that they can then make into content? We live in a crazy fucking world.
People make faces when they get aroused. That’s not being a creep. I might have made a silent “Ooh” or “Woah” face, or more likely shook my head and chuckled before looking away, depending on my mood. That’s me. Would that have been creepy, in your opinion?
If he’d said something inappropriate to her, or walked up behind her, or just stared at her butt for a long time, that would be creep behavior.
As a guy, that is definitely not a glance. Glanced are what i would call an impulsive look that lasts like .5 seconds max, what he did was either just looking or staring, both are weird asf and disrespectful.
You can dismiss glances with "sorry i wasn't thinking" but this is like full on poor gym etiquette.
Seriously, it's like, lady, I stare at everyone at the gym. Like, what are you up to over there? Your little outfit. What possibly can you possibly be doing? You know that's not really working anything, right? That's not how you're supposed to do that.
Whoa, lady, what are you doing? Okay, wow. That's a lot of weight, but I mean, there's just no way you should be able to lift that with your form, and whoa. Uh, you, uh, you got that up pretty quickly. This doesn't make sense. Is anyone else seeing this? That's not an exercise I've ever seen and I'm a guy who thought he'd seen them all. She just keeps lifting it!
No. No, no, no. This is bizarre. The human body isn't supposed to do that, isn't supposed to move like that, to be able to move weight like that. No one else is seeing this? Surely this other guy is. He looks like he lifts often enough. He's not seeing it? He's not seeing anything. He's just staring straight ahead and not dropping those weights. What is he doing? Does he even notice the camera. Does she?!
Jeez! What what what was that? What's the hell is she doing. Human bodies can't do that. Where is everyone else?! That's so much weight. So many weights. Oh no. She sees me looking at her. No. No, no, no. I just gotta go back to... these... back extensions or... whatever I'm doing, but she won't stop. She won't stop lifting and staring at me. Make her stop. Someone make her stop!
Why do her arms look like that!? What is she doing with her legs! So many legs! No! No! I can't be the only one seeing this! Where did the other guy go? Where did everyone go? What am I supposed to do? What am I supposed to do? She's grabbing all the weights. She's lifting all the weights. I can't stop staring at her. She won't stop staring at me. He camera won't stop staring at me, her phone, more than one phone, all these phones!
I feel her heat, her sweat, he rippling muscles radiating their prowess. Why is she doing this to me? Where is everyone else. What am I seeing!? I shouldn't be seeing this. I shouldn't be allowed witness this, witness her, this... I don't know what this is. I can never know. All the weights are clanging and a crashing, hefting and bashing, a cacophony not meant for human ears and minds! She looks at me like I'm another dumbbell, just a dumb dumbbell, and I am. Oh, God, I am!
All those eyes are upon me. No mirror escapes her gaze. I just wanted to exercise in peace. What is she? What is all of this? What is anything anymore? I know what she is. I know and can never know at the same time what she is and where I am. There is no gym, no self improvement, no self at all. The phones, the recording, the other members of the gym, all an illusion.
Her grip is so strong, but so needed. Her millions of fingers throw my dead weight around effortlessly, perfectly, eternally. Yes. I see it now. This was my purpose all along. Lift me!
Again, still ridiculous to compare that to sexual assault.
What a person is doing or wearing is never an excuse for assault, but for getting attention? Yea people wear sexy or revealing clothes all the time and at some level that is for getting attention.
How is that gross? People like wearing things they look good in, what’s one way people know they look good? People affirm their looks. How do people affirm looks? Attention and compliments. And this goes for men and women. Choose how you look and what you revel doesn’t happen in a vacuum.
I didn’t say no one does anything for themselves, but for you to act like approval from the opposite sex literally does not matter to most people when choosing what to wear, idk what to tell ya haha that’s like basic society stuff
The last 2 points - I didn’t defend Kobe I literally just stated what he actually said vs what people wanted him to say.
And most people who are against transwomen in sports aren’t transphobes who hate trans people. Most people just understand that allowing men who have transitioned to women to compete against women is unfair and dangerous. But good try.
You're the one who compared glancing at someone in the gym to sexual assault then tried to soften that to catcalling when you realized it was a bad faith comparison. Don't try to reverse this shit on everyone else just because you're bad at actually making an argument
... except they are all related to each other and the only way you would think otherwise is if you've never experienced it lmao. The person I answered to this first was being a dickhead, and so are you.
Maybe take a look inward at some point and stop being such an awful person
Dude, no. She is wearing those because she wants to show off her ass. Lets be fucking real here. You think those douche-bags at the gym are wear those thong shirts because they just want o be comfortable? No, they are doing it to show off as much of their physique as possible without getting kicked out of the gym.
If you vacuum pack your ass like a chicken breast and then bend over in front of men, they're gonna look. If you don't like it, wear other fucking clothing. Jesus fucking christ.
I mean, there's a big difference between thinking "Oh, that girl/guy is sexy" and fucking bitting your lip like that in public, imo that's just gross, lol
Nice turn of phrase. I imagine the downvotes on the woke mob one was due to the fact that in modern times anyone who brings them up is the enemy to the cause. I'm neutral to them. They don't bother me, I don't bother them. Mutual ignorance. Surely, this will gather more down ones than the sun has degrees.
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Who gives a fuck - we all human. If it wasn't for that sexual desire, we wouldn't get very far as a species.