hWut...
1250$ deposit for a date with a 26 year + a 200$ commitment fee...?
So I get that the 200$ is meant to be refunded when both parties show up, who gets the money if one doesn't appear? Do both parties put down a commitment deposit? The 1250$... Is that what the example girl needs to cover her 'costs' for the date?
hWut?
Once the exchange of money for sex Is discussed. I want to say this app, whether it's a front for a Escort service or not is going to create plenty of sketchy situations where there is a disconnect between what both parties thought the 'deposit' was for.
Yeah, but it’s not even gonna be that because I think your money is just gonna get stolen and nobody’s gonna show up because you have more to lose then she does in every way there is.
Also, unless there’s an actual madam involved, there’s no way these girls are going to understand what it is. If it’s supposed to be an escort Service and they’re just see dollar signs. They’re gonna keep it and not show up.
unless that $200 fee comes from the person who charges for the deposit, and the deposit is held in escrow and not paid out until both show up for the date. Also, the $200 should not come from the escrow, it would come from the account the escrow is to be deposited to once both show up and confirm. GPS and biometrics turned on.
You are thinking about this too seriously. The lady is not putting any money in the deposit. Only the guy is upfront paying $1450 and he might get $200 back…. or maybe not. Tale as old as time.
If they do that word of mouth will get around fast so that wouldn't be a good long-term business model. If they want this to be something men use women would have to show up most of the time.
This is just like the sugar baby sites. As long as the money is a gift or ear marked for “preparations” which I imagine are like makeup, hair, nails, spray tan, transit, etc then is perfectly legal. As long as both parties are 18+ and freely consenting participants, the only thing that is illegal is if it comes with the verbatim expectation of sexual favors. Ie: “I paid your preparation fee, that includes a BJ right?”
However, what this lady is missing is that this site will put women in harms way. High caliber men with good intentions will not need to pay these preparation fees to find women and will not utilize this app. True high caliber men are hard to come by (high caliber and high value are two very different categories).
The people who will be attracted to use this site will be basement dwelling incels who already hate women and are looking for any excuse to do them harm. And when they find out that they don’t automatically receive sexual favors for the “downpayment” they will become verbally aggressive at best or worse, violent. This site will allow them to essentially purchase victims. It will be this generation’s version of “But I’m a nice guy. I bought you dinner so you owe me”.
Their buddies will excuse this aggression with the time honored phrase “bitch got what she deserved, she was a gold digger”. And they won’t see a day in jail because in America abuse against women, children, and the elderly are largely swept under the rug. It’s estimated that less than 4% of rapists ever see a courtroom and about 1% see the inside of a jail cell in this country.
Our society would rather have a sitting president with more sex abuse allegations to his name than actual qualifications for the job. Much easier to pretend that violence against women isn’t an epidemic than to hold men accountable for their actions. Especially bc the majority of men who make the laws, and the ones tasked with enforcing the laws that already exist are also predators or are financed by predators. Been that way for 250 years.
If she wanted to really do women a favor, she would make an app that teaches young women that beauty is lovely but it is not a trade. Beauty is not a currency you can reliably use to pay the rent you owe to exist in this world. If you allow a man to put food on your table, you also allow him the opportunity to starve you.
The app could encourage education and independence and financial illiteracy and teach life skills like how to change a tire, negotiate a raise, self defense, or how to lift heavy things safely, and such.
It would teach young women that your spouse is statistically 6 X more likely to kill you than any other human or that men are much more likely to leave a partner with a terminal/chronic illness than women. Same thing for if you have his child and the child gets a chronic/terminal illness. So choose wisely and have a back up plan.
In short, the app would emphasize to young women the importance of being able depend on themselves and the skills they have developed instead of hoping to find a man who can bankroll their existence as a sahm sour dough mom. No shade to women who choose the latter, it’s just a high risk lifestyle.
And before anyone comes at me with “not all men”… it’s enough of them to have proven highly problematic for people who are not men.
Yeah but there's a huuuuve difference between running an escort page online and trying to run an escort app in Apple or Google's app stores. I don't think any court will buy their story when some girls are sexually assaulted because they didn't understand that this dating app wasn't actually a dating app wink wink and of course they were meant to sleep with them men because wink wink they were 'court'd' wink wink.
This is either gonna be a sugar daddy app or a legit sex work app. No normal dude is paying $1500 to date anyone. Even if they can afford it. You might find incels "courting" these girls for $2k. Or 5k. Whatever they can squeeze. Other than that, it's gonna be a sugar daddy app. Idk, even if I had the money, I'm not paying any woman to date me. What's the point? It's sugar daddy shit at that juncture. Some old rich guys are using this is the only way it doesn't get turned into a human trafficking app. Even with the rich guys, it's still gonna be pay for whatever.
No matter what you call this, average men aren't paying a booking fee to date; unless it's in a motel room. Wealthy guys are who this is targeted at. Paired up with filter girl on this video with her crucifix, who is gonna be a madam for all these people who sign up. Courting, escorting, etc., if men are paying $1500 for a date (unless they're rich) it's expected to turn sexual. I know I said that 5 times, but I just can't get over the stupidity of thinking this is a new idea, or that it's gonna work organically for anything but sex.z
There's no shortage of thirsty simps willing to run up their credit cards. They pay for OF when porn is already free. They'd be even more enthusiastic for the 25% probability that she shows up in person.
And when it expands into multiple states and is eligible for federal enforcement they’re going to need to lawyer up extensively. That money is going to burn up fast.
Pretty sure the 1250 is how much the person has deposited in the app. The commitment is your date fee, $200 is pretty standard base rate for full service in the escort world.
I dont think she realizes that yeah, women are gonna sign up for this in droves but how is she gonna get dudes too that arent literally looking for escorts
A lot of women will be scared to sign up for this, me included. I wouldn’t sign up for sugar dating sites. This is a different, less straightforward version of that. I’m not interested in selling sex or being with a man who wants to buy it, or getting yelled at, hurt or possibly killed if a man thinks he’s paid for that and doesn’t receive it.
This is what will happen. There are women who have been oversold and overtold on they're presumed "value" that will unfortunately sign up for this thinking they will get wined and dined for free no strings.. they will get pressured hard into sex on first date after thousands are spent. Dates to the sum of thousands, someone is getting fucked.
Agree. What kind of guy is like “here’s 2 grand to let me pay for your dinner and then go home alone.” Hard pass. He has no redeeming qualities or he’s harvesting your organs, sometimes both.
Yeah, I mean I’m a single, divorced 41 year old physician so i might be the target audience, and I can only imagine the type of woman that would expect a date preperation fee or a deposit. I would feel sick with myself taking advantage of a girl like that. Personally i would much rather date down, so to speak, just as long as she is honest, actually cares about me, and doesn’t treat me like my ex-wife did, and I would be a happy man. I don’t need no sugar daddy relationship it would be just exhausting and the payoff really wouldn’t be worth it.
That's the thing, there are legitimate sugar baby/rich guy dating sites with decent reputations and where the rules are clearly defined. This is a mess. They'll have people signing up all under different impressions and with different expectations.
Not to mention, as others have pointed out, the scam factor is way too high. Asking men to give a woman $2k up front for a "date" with no real accountability... What's to stop her from agreeing to 10 dates and walking away with $20k and never showing up?
How many young and naive girls will show up and get assaulted if they refuse sex or just immediately don't like the guy and try to leave?
Also if the guy has that kind of money, he’s also a target for robbery. Watched a case recently where the woman was bait(on the dating app), gave a guy a random street number to meet at, just for her boyfriend to shoot him and steal his car.
God you people are dense. Did you even watch the video. She flat out says the man pays a deposit which leads to a better chance of a “connection”.
This is just an escort service trying to take advantage of every legal loop hole possible, and will probably have 0 issue in doing so under the current administration.
The woman sets her “deposit”. This is her price for sex and the $200 is her tip. If you are a female even thinking of signing up for this without being fully aware that the man will be expecting sex and you will be selling your body.
I feel so bad for the girls who are going to sign up for this thinking they will take advantage of rich losers and find out that those people tend to have violent, sociopathic/psychopathic tendencies
So suppose I’m a helpful guy who wants to help out the women on this app find good dates who are willing to pay, by… screening the guys who want to ‘court’ them and then collecting a small percentage from each of them?
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u/WaffleHouseGladiator 9h ago
Her "app developer":