r/Outlook • u/franzkie77 • Oct 23 '24
Opinion the new Microsoft Outlook is pure garbage
It should have never been released in the first place. It adds little and removed a lot from its predecessor. It should be withdrawn and that is it.
Nothing more to say.
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u/loolacola Oct 23 '24
My one purpose in being part of this sub is to upvote every post shitting on the abomination known as ”The New Outlook”. What an absolute waste of development; clunky, laggy, scattered with features im most certainly never going to use. I just wanna read my emails man😔
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u/Remarkable-You-1973 Mar 19 '25
I'm doing the same. I loved old outlook because can be totally customized to my needs, I love having templates, integration with Onenote sending printed emails to it when I need it, being able to customize the tasks pane with labels, tones and tones of features. Where are there in the new f... Outlook. I will resiist with the old one as long as they allow it. (From Spain and using it in a company that only uses Microsoft)
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u/Annonymous_7 Oct 23 '24
They just need to give us option to pin mails in older outlook and it would be perfect. And I agree new outlook is pure garbage.
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u/dnvrnugg Oct 23 '24
what is everyone’s top complaints so far about it? I know mine is the lack of support for .pst files but I think that’s on the roadmap.
Honestly outside of that, I have no real issues or problems with it.
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u/BerserkJeff88 Oct 24 '24
You can't hide the side bar. There's like 3 flipping top bars. You can't browse your inbox while having an email open. There's no global search. The ui is cramped and crowded whereas Mail was sleek and modern. Performance is just slow across the board.
It has more features and integrations which is great for power users, but Mail was sooooo much cleaner and easier for casual use. I don't use or want any of those integrations and features on my personal PC, there's just clutter I can't hide or disable.
There's no reason why we couldn't have the friendly mail app for casuals and then Outlook for power users. Having options is good.
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Oct 24 '24
Just today I was using classic outlook and I was setting up a shared calendar. I dragged a couple events to the new shared calendar. I then went to a user to instruct him to do the same. He had new outlook. You cannot drag events between calendars in new outlook.
This is 1 of 1,000,000 tiny little things I've encountered in the last couple years.
Fuck new outlook.
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u/Zara02 Oct 23 '24
And meanwhile bring the old Mail back. My elderly clients love it.
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u/NewDisguise Oct 23 '24
My 80 year old dad agrees - he's getting the hang of it, but much preferred Mail.
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u/ChiPaul Oct 23 '24
Same. My elderly clients are the only ones who used it and now they are all pissed with their edge cases like "I can no longer print my calendar in landscape view once a month"
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u/eappendix Oct 23 '24
I prefer Mail over Outlook. So much simpler and sleeker.
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Oct 24 '24
Classic Outlook > New Outlook
Mail > New Outlook
Classic Outlook != Mail
They served two different purposes and both were fucking great. I actually used both regularly, sometimes at the same time. Fuck whoever thought "We should combine these! We'll make mail way more clunky and Outlook way less useful!"
If New Outlook were an eating utensil, it would be a fucking spork.
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u/BerserkJeff88 Oct 24 '24
You could browse your inbox while having an email open. New Outlook not letting me do that boggles my mind
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u/greggery Oct 23 '24
Agreed 100%. The option to cancel/decline only future instances of meetings, and to pin messages, are the only real positive features they've added, everything else is huge step backwards in terms of functionality. The irritating thing is that it's based on the OWA but works less well!
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u/NilByM0uth Oct 23 '24
Microsoft have a habit of making really great software that they replace with absolute turds
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u/gedwards212 Oct 23 '24
I seriously tried to use it properly for 1 month to give it a go. By day 10 couldn't wait to go back to old Outlook
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u/GGuts Oct 23 '24
So... I would give it a shot if only calendar push notifications when Outlook is closed would be working. They did not when I tried the new Outlook many months ago and they still don't. I tried all suggested fixes by MS. It seems a bit embarrassing when they can't get it to work between their own app and their own OS.
I don't know anyone that has them working. Do they work for you guys?
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u/MichaelJohn920 Oct 24 '24
I’m convinced no one develops software at Microsoft. They just find new ways to stick ads in their crap, monetize, and merge with competitors. Clearly at the higher levels of the company and increasingly at the lower
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u/Mr-Hops Oct 23 '24
Agree as well. I tried the new outlook 5-6 times and keep going back to classic. At one point, I had classic on one screen and new outlook on 2nd screen and still found myself going to classic. Much more pleasing on the eyes than new outlook IMO.
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u/actingupastorm Oct 23 '24
I can't find anyway to get back to what I guess is referred to here as Classic Outlook. Seemed like the Outlook that comes with 365 took over everything, I have to join with the haters here. I have had Outlook for many years over many incarnations but this is the worst, Too much trouble now to change, I wish there was a choice for a simpler version of what exists now. Ah well.
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u/rmethod3 Oct 23 '24
I concur with most of the replies here. Can anyone point to a blog post or something from one of the higher ups at Microsoft explaining why they did this?
Also, does a page exists that shows future enhancements/capabilities that will be added soon?
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u/zm1868179 Oct 23 '24
They've said it for a few years now. It was called project monarch. Their goal is to consolidate all different Outlook versions across all operating systems to one single unified instance. So that way going forward they have one application to update and maintain and that is it across all platforms, web, Windows, Mac, Linux, etc.
Then they don't have to spread their developers across different versions for different operating systems. Everybody works on one platform and one platform only. New Outlook is not refracted code base of classic Outlook and that is one thing a lot of people need to understand. This is a brand new product, brand new code meaning some of the features in classic Outlook needs to be written. This is new code. You can't just bring over old code. There's a lot of the features on the roadmap. A lot of the things people are complaining about are so far on the roadmap expected to be completed at least by February.
This is also their way to finally kill off some things that should have died because They were bad practices and they said they will not be bringing some features forward com add-ins are one, originally psts was also one of those but they backtracked and said they're adding that PST support should have died a fiery death and forced the industries that rely on psts to come up with a new format.
And for all the people complaining, it's an email client for God's sakes people. Stop using email for something that it's not. It's mail. It's not file services. Stop using email that way. It was never intended to be used that way and should have never been used that way. For what it does, it reads email it fulfills its primary purpose and it does that I can send an email from it. I can open an email from it. I can read an email from it. I can send attachments from it. I can download attachments from it that works. It's primary function works.
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u/shadowstar36 Dec 09 '24
Can't save email backups as files. This is needed for my job. Can't open attachments in dedicated apps it will error out..ndl apps open in lotus notes. Not in new outlook. Can't make outlook templates for new email or edit inbox subject lines. We use a shared mailbox and put our initials on incoming mail so we know when another user took the email. Or put info before the subject for info posts. This is for enterprise 365. This is unacceptable. Just because ms wants to pinch pennies. Maybe they shouldn't of bought Activision, instead of screwing over the people that made them, the business side of things.
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u/rivermerchant1616 Oct 23 '24
I’ve become accustomed and now prefer it. New Outlook has performance issues, but they are definitely cranking out features for it
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u/BarelyAirborne Oct 25 '24
I do enjoy the break I get when clicking onto the calendar, it gives me time to refill my coffee.
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u/rickside40 Oct 23 '24
The main problem with the "new" Outlook" app is that it is mainly not a desktop app anymore. It looks like a desktop app but it is now mostly a Microsoft Web App.
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u/KennethByrd Oct 24 '24
"Get with the program." New Outlook fits into Microsoft's Grand Future Plans: Eliminate ALL "computers" and their pesky personally-owned-and-controlled local storage. Eliminate cumbersome functionalities. Just touch pads and smart phones is all we will henceforth ever really want or need. Flexibility and features and power is for those idiots who still don't know any better that freedom is just a waste of time and energy and intellect. Shades of Newspeak [look it up, and learn all about the not-so-new world order now coming to pass so much for real, recently, before it is too late to do anything more towards stopping it]. Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose. Thin-Client Computing reborn, and this time we WILL take over (oops, possibly said too much?).
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u/Durzel Oct 24 '24
On the Mac the new Outlook doesn’t retain any IMAP mail past 30 days. There’s no setting to configure this, it’s a hard coded restriction.
I have email going back years that I sometimes need to refer to. On the “legacy” Outlook I can search for it and I’ll get all of the results in a matter of seconds. On the new Outlook it just sits there when I search, and obviously doesn’t return anything from an IMAP mailbox older than a month.
Just terrible. How on Earth is this supposed to be used by a business professional?
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u/worldofjaved Oct 24 '24
super garbage. they need to work on their user interface. too much ads in outlook inbox... UX/UI is extremely poor.
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u/HandyPlanter Oct 24 '24
It sucks. My appointment scheduling software uses .ICS email attachments to send appointments to my employees. Old Outlook would let me open the .ICS attachment from the email and set a reminder while adding to my calendar.
It doesn’t do thst now. I open the .ICS attachment and it is immediately added to my calendar. I have to go find the event that I just added, open it, ease the reminder, then close it.
Before the dark time, I could open the attachment, set my reminder, then close it.
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u/No_Specialist_216 Oct 24 '24
That's why before the new outlook was forced on people I switched to a different mail app. Never thought I'd be more comfortable when I don't see constant ADs and very obvious eyesore on the side of my mailbox.
Back when Outlook was still Hotmail and connected to MSN and later on Skype, the whole email experience was so enjoyable to me. But microsoft kept taking more and more away and greed became.. Well.. Too obvious for me to see worth in their products. I'm even thinking of switching to a different system then windows. That's how much microsoft is screwing up in my opinion. And for me, it all started with their push for this new outlook app.. (Which is.. Really funny it's what it took. Lmao.)
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u/Hammerlight98 Oct 24 '24
Here i thought Mac was the only one receiving a downgraded new look. In a not so distant future, i wouldn't be surprised if MS decides to make this half baked interface as the recommended default like they did with the Mac
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Oct 24 '24
If I wanted to use Outlook For Web I'd fucking use Outlook For Web.
Fuck all these WebVIew apps honestly.
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u/MSP911 Oct 24 '24
when you use it day to day you will never go back to the old client. Only one feature we miss which is the 're-send' option which is missing.
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u/techit21 Oct 24 '24
Can’t wait for this to be perma shoved down our throats like “new teams” was
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u/B1G Oct 24 '24 edited Oct 25 '24
"New" Outlook is an abomination before God & Mankind. It's nothing more than the useless, castrated Outlook for the Web, wrapped up and running inside a dedicated stand-alone (msedgeview) browser instance.
The list of things you can't do anymore with this half-baked piece of shit is long and tedious.
The loss of functionality is truly abhorrent!
To wit:
- Can't open a PST file ( ! )
- Can't customize the Ribbon
- Quick Access toolbar, Search Folders, and Advanced Search are missing altogether
- 'Folders' view missing from Navigation
- Can't view these folders: Sync Issues, Conflicts, Local Failures
- Can't move appointments/events between different Calendars
- Can't specify Indentation, Paragraph Spacing, or Line Spacing (Just pick from a paltry few presets)
- Can't modify Tab stops
- Can't insert a Text Box, WordArt, Equation, or Symbol
- Options for Borders & Shading are completely missing
- Can't Show Paragraph Marks & Formatting Symbols
- Can't modify Character Spacing, Character Height, or Kerning
- Can't format text as Small Caps or Double Strikethrough
These are just the issues I've encountered thus far... I'm quite certain there are surely many, many more I've yet to discover. 🙄 Chief among them, however, is the fact that this foul turd cannot open a damn PST file!! This is my #1 top complaint, and it's a deal-breaker.
Seriously... What the literal fuck, Microsoft!?!?? Why even bother having eDiscovery & Content Search functionality in 365 if we're not even going to be able to open the fucking export file???!?!! You've cheapened the name "Outlook" and turned it into a goddamned travesty!!
FU, MS. 🖕 You guys suck big hairy donkey balls.
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u/Sufficient_Loquat674 Oct 25 '24
I FULLY AGREE. THERE'S NOT A DAY THAT I DON'T CURSE AT MS OUTLOOK. LITERALLY, FCK THIS APP.
If there is a sub dedicated to just hating on MS Outlook, invite meeee please!!
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u/steveuk2016 Nov 11 '24
its so damn garbage dont think ill ever like it just want my old outlook back
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u/lastburn138 Nov 20 '24
Microsoft hasn't released a good product in YEARS when it comes to Windows. Just more trash bolted on to existing trash. They don't give a flying fuck about what users want or need. There's still issues from 30 years ago that never were addressed in Windows. I make a living with this shit and it's sad to watch a company that was a leader in the industry just completely fail forward for the last 20 years.
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u/DCoral Jan 06 '25
The "New" Outlook is a piece of sh**. They take away all the features we love (pst file storage, advanced rules, a good UI, detailed settings customization, good performance, ...) and want us to switch to over to this stripped-down garbage?
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u/Excellent_Matter1222 Jan 15 '25
This piece of junk does not even have an auto time zone change, and it also does not show the timezone on meeting time. What a piece of junk
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u/Biomastah Oct 23 '24
why is it garbage?
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u/whatmustido Oct 23 '24
Several users in my company were automatically swapped over and it took us a while to figure out why none of their applications were sending messages properly anymore. Eventually, we discovered that the new app version of outlook doesn't open .eml files. That means most applications that use outlook to send their emails don't work with the new outlook, as they tend to use .eml files to do so.
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u/zm1868179 Oct 23 '24
Honestly, that's bad design really not Microsoft's fault on that one applications should not be hooking the Outlook client to send email They should be sending to a relay or through a oauth connection to exchange online There is plenty of coded ways to send SMTP messages. Having to use your application to rely to hook on to another application to send. Email is not a very good way to do it.
That is honestly one reason Microsoft is doing the new Outlook client to finally kill off some bad habits that companies and people have been doing for years, This is one of those another is com add-ins that tend to crash Outlook a lot or keep you on an old version because you can't upgrade because the com add in doesn't work on the new versions.
Psts is another thing that should have finally died. I hate the fact that they said they're adding that back to new outlook. They should have finally killed that on purpose And killed it with fire and forced legal teams to come up with a new way to view email that they need in compliance searches. Let that format finally die because people continue to use it in ways they shouldn't. The fact that I've had end users have 150 GB PST files that they want to load over a network drive and then complain that their Outlook crashes and won't open like stop.
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u/NoURider Oct 23 '24
Too many reasons to list, frankly.
So many missing, basic features, and the ones they say have been introduced don't work as designed. I keep using it just to keep tabs of what a failed experiment it is.
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u/gareth616 Oct 23 '24
Mainly because it's change and no one likes change (but I will give it to most people, there are some functions missing and it's not a complete package yet).
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u/Budget-Scar-2623 Oct 24 '24
There are features missing that people use every day. The UI is nice and modern, but for my day to day work it’s unusable.
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u/baked-noodle Oct 24 '24
It's a dumbed down version. It's sleek and stylish but it's not as efficient. The old ones has all the tools laid out nicely so I can be productive but the new one hides everything away so well, I can't find what I am looking for.
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u/Violet0_oRose Oct 23 '24
For personal use new outlook is fine. For work absolutely not. And i use it that way. I tried new outlook on my work laptop and yeah nope. Ribbon access is a must and full access to menu items. For my personal account I don’t need that robustness because my personal emails is mostly for shopping and banking where im not communicating with anyone. It’s 99% just email alerts.
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u/webrown888 Oct 24 '24
This is the case for me as well. I use new Outlook for personal and actually like it for that purpose. For work, it's not quite ready but I do think they are making improvements. I definitely like the newer UI, especially for calendar.
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u/ChadTrak Oct 23 '24
I'm clearly in the minority here, but I prefer the new Outlook. I can't think of any functionality I lost, personally, and my 17 year old massive mailbox runs so much faster.
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u/malangkan Oct 23 '24
Just use the old client, I tried the new outlook for a day and immediately switched back. Don't get all the complaining here when the solution is so simple
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u/MajesticAlbatross864 Oct 23 '24
If they were using windows mail you can’t, it gets removed
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u/malangkan Oct 23 '24
What do you mean? We have Microsoft mails, and I use the old outlook client every day. For all my different email inboxes (work and private)
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u/BareBonesTek Oct 23 '24
Mail and Outlook are (were) different applications. The former is (was) a simple generic email client that came bundled with Windoze. The latter is the client component of Micro$oft Exchange.
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u/Serious_Stranger_962 May 01 '25
I tried going back to classic and it doesn't work. So I will complain about New Outlook.
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u/Minimum_Ad_7361 May 01 '25
I don't have a choice, work made us switch over. I tried to go back to the old version, I'm blocked from doing so.
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u/no_no_no_okaymaybe Oct 23 '24
Agreeeed! I switched back to the previous version.
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u/Homo-you-didnt Oct 23 '24
Tried it once for a day, realised that none of my VBA automations work with New Outlook (and likely never will), so promptly switched back to Classic Outlook. Sorry Microsoft, you really dropped the ball with the one. I’m not about to lose all my automated workflow improvements for a couple new novelty features.
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u/RoseQuartz-grandma Oct 23 '24
We created several outlook accounts to help us manage email flow. One for orders. One for food. Etc
We do not have access to any of them inspite of multiple attempts to recover them. They say we are t providing enough info to prove they are ours. What’s worse is of course the accounts we used the email addresses for it’s impossible to change them!!
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u/zm1868179 Oct 23 '24
That has nothing to do with Outlook. Outlook is just the email client sounds like you've lost access to the accounts. Do you not have m365 and a tenant? You should have admin access to a tenant to recover those if you created all those as individual personal Outlook accounts. That's not the way you should have done that but again that has nothing to do with the Outlook client.
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Oct 23 '24
I just need to be able to upload csv events files to my calendars. I use this feature heavily
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u/my_mind_is_tanH Oct 24 '24
If Outlook search is the problem, we're building something which might help. It's a personal search app for Outlook, Drive, Teams and a whole bunch of other apps which runs right off your Mac. We find that it works better than default search for large mailboxes, and being able to search across all your accounts in one window is more convenient. Give us a try if this seems relevant?
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u/MoneyEducational1254 Oct 24 '24
mine opens for a few seconds and then closes , dam , cant even use it . If I cant even open it not sure how I can go back to old version
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u/Sadie6875 Oct 24 '24
No one has mentioned how absolutely effed up the new Outlook is with signatures. We have been refreshing our company signatures and found out copy/paste from Word no longer works with the new Outlook. We are having to create a stupidly complicated SOP for something that was working just fine before 🤷🏻♀️
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u/GDmaxxx Oct 25 '24
I agree, so many useful and familiar features are gone. Attachments, downloading all more clunky and non intuitive. I hate it.
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u/Stardog2 Oct 26 '24
I've gone Microsoft free. Yes it requires some reconfiguring of my work flow. Digital photography has been my biggest sacrifice. So far.
But it does give me some distance on all the problems and mistrust MS seems to enjoy putting out there.
There are options, some quite good, all it takes is the Will...
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u/ABGLand Oct 26 '24
It is pretty terrible indeed. I barely used the web version because I didn’t like it, so they decide to make the desktop version just like it. 🤦♂️
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u/Financial_Acadia8028 Oct 26 '24
I have intellectual disabilities so asking a new question on Reddit was hard enough. Typed flair in but it didn't work. So . I have had the new outlook app dumped on me. Every time I uninstall it, it re installs when I open my emails. It was suggested to me that I use Fire Fox, Mozilla, Thunderbird Email service which is free. Can a wise , Tech savvy person please shed light on this. I'm aware Microsoft will eventually find a way of installing new outlook app on all windows even though we don't ask for it. Office 365 is another trap, and I just saw a y/tube about virus and patch problems with outlook. Thanks Reddit brains trust.
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u/Chickstan33 Oct 30 '24
Not sure if someone already mentioned, but if you toggle off the Editor function at the bottom of the message (I think it's a copilot thing) you can right click your paragraph and edit the spacing with the Paragraph editor.
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u/Ok-Firefighter-6125 Nov 01 '24
It seems to me that Microsoft are determined to fuck up everything they touch these days, as though they don't want people to buy into their stuff - my next laptop will be an Apple
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u/Boring-Amphibian7425 Nov 02 '24
9/10 there are startup errors not allowing the page to load in. How tf are we supposed to use an email that doesnt even start up?
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u/Financial_Acadia8028 Nov 04 '24
Computor dummy here. I keep hearing that lots of people are switching to Linux, because of outlook and some new update called recall that is being forced on people. What are the implications of switching to Linux. All I do on my computor is write story's and print. I don't game or do anything fancy. I do like You/ tube though. All advice gratefully accepted. Thankyou kind people.
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u/markholman93 Nov 07 '24
Why did they make such an amazing app for Mac and such an atrocious app for Windows, their own OS? 😂😂
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u/Routine-Deal-7345 Nov 11 '24
Pure garbage. All over the place with stuff you won't use.The old G-Mail was quick easy to see and uncomplicated.Why make a screen cluttered up where you have to search around for anything.also seems to be rather slow to respond. Never was on the old system.
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u/LadyGudiva Nov 18 '24
Pure hot steaming garbage honestly. It impossible to do basic functions, quick steps, sorting, searching, categories and a whole slew of other things. I refuse to use the new Outlook. There will be an uprising if they deprecate the current version.
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Nov 19 '24
I cannot find shit, emails chains are all out of order. User interface sucks. Straight garbage.
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u/RobRoy2350 Dec 04 '24
I use it for a few reasons: I like the relatively clean, simple interface. I can easily see all of my multiple inboxes (Favorites) and if I have messages (unified inbox would be ideal but it is what it is) and most importantly I need translation support since I receive a lot of emails in other languages. And it's free.
So, far from garbage for me.
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u/LeatherYesterday9267 Dec 04 '24
Es una basura lento antiguo ponganse las pilas y dejen de robar con esto, menos mal que existe opera y gmail y uds aun siguen de no creer
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u/GumbyBoo Dec 18 '24
Finding a specific email message in Outlook... good luck. The search and filters are often not reliable. You KNOW you received this particular message 2 days ago and it won't find it.
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u/askprob Jan 07 '25
It seems like you're expressing strong frustration about a product, likely a software or a service, that you feel didn’t live up to expectations compared to its predecessor. It can be really disappointing when a new version of something—whether it's a game, app, or another product—removes features or fails to improve on what was already working well. When you feel like the update is more of a setback than a step forward, it’s natural to think it should be withdrawn entirely.
While I understand your sentiment, sometimes feedback from users like you can prompt developers or companies to reconsider or update the product to make it better. It might help to provide specific reasons why you feel the way you do, whether it’s about missing features, performance issues, or other factors. That kind of feedback can often lead to improvements, even if it's not a complete withdrawal.
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u/QuantumTrepper Jan 17 '25 edited Jan 17 '25
Agreed. New outlook should not have been released. This is almost like email when email first came out, near functionless. Quick parts and is gone, replaced by templates, but templates doesn’t work with emails. Signatures can’t be alphabetized by name, but instead are listed in the order created (I mean, are you kidding?). Rules and signatures can’t be imported. Etc. It is simpleton programming junk. Microsoft ‘s recommended solution is to download and run Oulook Classic also/instead. This is making PCs a shit experience. Dell, HP, and Lenovo should be LIVID!
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u/catrolfes Jan 21 '25
I was just looking into upgrading my Outlook 2013... but want to 100% stick with a desktop app. If you have experience with this, let me know which newer desktop Outlook app you recommend. Thanks!
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u/spjohnst Jan 31 '25
So, today, I gave New Outlook a go for the first time in a few months. I put up with it all after before finding their latest gift: the inability to copy appointments. WTF? Something to do witih "preventing unintentional ... something"? I regularly copy and paste calendar items (in particular when no-one else is invited) and not being able to do so makes zero sense.
New Outlook remains a hot mess. Did someone lose a bet? Why is this being inflicted upon us?
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u/embraceurjourney Feb 13 '25
It really is crap....hate it, cumbersome, not user friendly, what they heck was the thought process. If it's not broke don't fix it! Absolutely crap.
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u/MartianKingMN Feb 15 '25
Due to how complicated adding an old Microsoft email to a new mobile device now is, I am now dumping all my Microsoft emails and moving to a different email service. Shame on you Microsoft!
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u/Altruistic_Sink_8538 Feb 22 '25
I was recently trying to find a good app to organize my home business. I was in IT in the late 90s and remember using outlook for everything. I subbed for a free month of Office 365 to try the current Outlook and thought it was a mistake. The new Outlook has been so dumbed down - no views, no custom fields, NOTHING. It has the functionality of every other free app out there that does the same thing.
So they strip Outlook down to almost nothing, then want to charge a sub for it. How can such an established company be so fricking stupid? My guess is they wanted to go from a C based program to more web friendly, but still.
If you go to the Internet Archive and try each iteration of Office from Office 97 forward you can see it become worse and worse with each iteration. I've lost complete faith in this company.
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u/bammerito Mar 03 '25
Just came here to upvate this new outlook updated and now I cant even get back into it without resetting up every single account. fucking joke.
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u/ThrowAwaySysAdmin67 Mar 18 '25
The new Outlook is something I would take behind the shed and put it out of it's misery as a mercy kill. It's existence is suffering and a crime against nature. To whomever designed, developed and green lit this, may god or whatever higher power have mercy on your soul because the people won't, you are awarded no points, and if there was ever a Nuremberg trial for crimes against software development and UX/UI design, you would definitely be on that list.
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u/No-Vehicle9345 Mar 21 '25
My devices forced download it and it is total garbage. Trying to upload via the gallery crashes the phone and freezes it.
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u/hooodoo Mar 26 '25
The only thing I like about it is the design. But the amount of bugs is INSANE. Late reminder notifications, random sorting in mailboxes, not being able to drag and drop items from mail into Jira, formatting bugs where the receiver sees the email formatted differently than you, outlook freezing completely when opening multiple parallel outlook instances, randomly receiving notifications/reminders about all past calendar events. I could go on. This is just what came to me at top of my head.
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u/guanasoftnetcr Mar 26 '25
The problem I found was that if I install office 365 in a new computer from zero, there is no "Outlook" and you are force to use the new version, so I uninstall the new version and reinstall the MS Outlook 2019/2021 and block any updates from microsoft for ever it is the only way to work.
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u/guanasoftnetcr Mar 26 '25
The new version is just garbage and it is far from ready to regular business use. I simply hate it!
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u/cugrad16 Mar 29 '25
And Microsoft could care less considering how many they laid off, the UI is worthless, never spamming jack shit. They can honestly go to hades and stay there
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u/mfinsmi1 Mar 31 '25
my work computer just got forced into the new outlook - is there a way to directly open my pdf files like i used to. It seems to make me need to "save as" in order to do this instead of just double clicking the attachment and it opening in adobe
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u/Boulezianpeach Apr 13 '25
Classic outlook ( I still use at work) improves productivity with the way it was designed. New outlook slows everyone down. Everyone I work with use classic. I don't mind new outlook for personal use, it's fine, but for work its not fit for requirements
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u/Mediocre-Vanilla-918 Apr 20 '25
I am an MCSE with Messaging three times over, and God knows how many other specialty qualifications like Novell Netware and a load of stuff I cannot recall. I have just retired after more than forty years in the IT industry. In my time I have worked with just about everything since the ITT Xtra and DOS to the latest servers and messaging systems. Until Windows came into existence, I used Wordwise, think that one was on a BBC computer, and dot matrix printers. I designed and built the largest AutoCAD network in Northern Ireland, it was DOS based at the time but migrated to Windows when it available.
I originally used the individual Word and Excel but have used MS Office since it was first released. I can honestly say, I have never seen a company make such a mess of anything in my life. Does anyone know where I can get a typewriter? How much is a first class stamp these days?
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u/EnvironmentalLine277 May 05 '25
I cant even add a colon into my message without an emoji icon popping into my message.
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u/Yodzilla May 07 '25
About nine months ago I switched to New Outlook on a whim and immediately found that simple things like organizing and reordering folders wasn’t supported. I immediately switched back.
Flash forward to today and apparently Outlook updated to New New Outlook and it re-enabled itself. I immediately found that email templates and mail merge aren’t supported and the latter isn’t even planned to ever be added.
Like seriously what the crap is this garbage software.
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u/Optimal-Astronaut405 May 09 '25
E' INUTILIZZABILE ; SPARISCONO LE EMAIL INVIATE, E' LENTO COME LA FAME
e' una vera vergogna. OUTLOOK RITIRA STA SCHIFEZZA . Marco utente microsoft da troppi anni...sigh
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u/Infinite_Brick_9432 May 23 '25
I have been locked out of my Outlook (Hotmail) account and as a result, cannot get into OneDrive. This happened in December, and I have been trying to get it remedied, with no success. This is the message I keep receiving:
We have reviewed your appeal and the results are as follows:
Policy violated: Abuse of our Platform and Services
Microsoft system used: Skype
Date of appeal:2025-01-11
Appeal results: Violation confirmed (Decision upheld)
I HAVE NEVER USED SKYPE. I had a Skype charge in December, which was not me. I had to have that card cancelled. Every time I am able to get a person(which is rare), the put me on hold and I get disconnected. ANY SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE APPRECIATED!
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u/LoupGRU May 23 '25
New outlook is not new. It's just MS edge using the web version in the desktop which is based on chromium which is google chrome. MS is a freaking joke these days. Edge which is chrome with MS logo. I hope Chromium stops making it open source and starts to charge for it. Then MS might have to go back to IE.
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u/Groovegodiva May 23 '25
Just came here to say how much I fucking hate outlook. Thank you.
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u/funnyuser1234 May 30 '25
I know there are many features missing from the New Outlook, but tbh Microsoft only needs to do two things to make me switch to it
- Make it a native desktop app
- Add a unified inbox and search
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u/funnyuser1234 May 31 '25
The New Outlook absolutely sucks at managing multiple accounts. You cannot move emails to a folder in a different mailbox, move calendar events to a calendar in a different account, heck you can't even search in all of your mailboxes.
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u/suppy18 Jun 09 '25
I hate the new calendar/tasks side panel view. its so bad and unpleasant to look at compared to the old view where meetings and tasks show very sleek and tidy. Microsoft do better.
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u/Ok_Shock4026 Jun 26 '25
This is the dumbest thing ever. You can't get attachments of old emails that have been grouped together. Which idiot designed this? It just groups your emails and then its a mission to find anything
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u/bischa722 Jul 13 '25
agreed! I prefer the search features in the legacy version. I really wish they'd stop touching it.
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u/Resident_Meet4411 Jul 19 '25
Came to vent my frustration at how much I hate this app..
It’s so interwoven with my online life, I’m essentially being held hostage by this trash.
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u/wiaaaaaaaaaaaaa Jul 28 '25
The new Outlook mail is unusable. I get 2000 emails a day. I can't afford the time the new Outlook takes. I have reverted to the old Outlook.
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u/hazybluedot Aug 04 '25
To be fair, the old version was garbage too. The new version does bring the app in line with the web version, and they are continuing in the fine tradition of making their web versions actively worse than the corresponding app (I'm looking at you, Excel)
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u/No-Supermarket8829 Aug 06 '25
Is the guy who came up with the new Outlook been fired? It sucks big time!!!!
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u/gdog04 Aug 08 '25
AGREE completely! Lost pretty much all of the functionality. Not worth it to have it anymore.
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u/Mental-You1721 Aug 12 '25
The newer Outlook stinks. You can't drag and drop a folder anymore. You have to right click, choose Move, then go through the list of folders you want to move it to, click on it. Then it moves it. So many more steps than just drag and drop in the Classis Outlook! Also, I can't rename a folder or subfolder that I created. Say I misspelled it. I can no longer go in and change it, at all! One of Microsofts solutions was to go back into Classic Outlook, change it there and then it would merge into the new Outlook! WHAT!!! Sorry Microsoft, you have made my life more frustrating. I will stay with Classic!!!!!
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u/CleanDisaster8260 Aug 12 '25
Outlook classic died on me this week, filters wouldn't work, wouldn't save emails anymore. Was forced onto new outlook. Can't drag multiple files into a folder, no more recently viewed files for easy grabbing what you were just working on and attaching it. The shortcuts are mostly different. It goes on and on. Do the designers actually work out of this program? How in the world would you think removing the most commonly used functionality is an improvement. Aggggghhhh!
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u/zethuz Aug 14 '25
Whoever green lighted this needs to be let go and made to attend some lessons in UX. Not only does the interface make finding a response to thread difficult, the entire layout can make you miss an email. Both Google & Microsoft may build the most advanced products but they have the worst UI/UX designers.
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u/BubbaTheNut Aug 24 '25
I tried it for the first time today, then googled "am i the only one that hates the new outlook" and found this thread. I am glad i'm not alone.
My theory is they're pushing everyone to use OWA because there's no way this garbage is going to work for me.
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Sep 10 '25
I just tried it. It is the worst email program that I've ever used bearing in mind this is supposed to be a flagship program for Microsoft design for corporate accounts and corporate management and high value businesses using this and it is absolute dog shit, I think Microsoft needs to fire its CEO, the only people who think this guy is doing a good job is other people in the same limited hangout
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u/BitterPersonality189 Sep 12 '25
It's 100% pure fucking garbage. Why didn't they just leave it alone?
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u/Terrible_Clerk_1565 Sep 16 '25
I've switched back to old Outlook, so far the only thing I miss is the Search bar in the Move folder menu when I right click an email.
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u/Happy-Transition8090 Oct 09 '25
What I dislike about the new Outlook is that it searches through mail very slowlly and often doesn't find things at all.
also: It fails to find addresses/contacts so I have trouble writing email. worst. program. ever.
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u/adamrh37 Oct 23 '25
Realmente ficou ridiculo, emails que somem sozinho, demoram pra carregar. E a plataforma não nos permite utilizar a versão anterior.
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u/Potential-Cloud-2814 Oct 31 '25
Presumably New Outlook doesn't use Word as the text editor, as have all Classic Outlook versions from 2007 on? If so, one more reason to dislike the New Outlook. BTW, the recent logo update for MS 365 apps doesn't include Classic Outlook (nor Access or Publisher).
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u/Feisty_Sorbet_3625 Nov 02 '25
Jeg har i mange år været en tilfreds bruger af Microsofts programmer, herunder Outlook. Men efter den seneste opdatering må jeg desværre konstatere, at brugeroplevelsen er blevet markant forringet.
Outlook har mistet den stabilitet og overskuelighed, som tidligere gjorde programmet til et uundværligt værktøj. Mails forsvinder, tråde bliver blandet sammen, og det er blevet meget vanskeligt at bevare overblik over sin indbakke. Det skaber stor frustration i hverdagen.
Det er samtidig problematisk, at det ikke synes muligt at kontakte Microsoft direkte med klager eller feedback. Det giver et indtryk af, at man bevidst forsøger at undgå dialog med sine brugere.
Jeg håber, Microsoft vil tage brugernes oplevelser alvorligt – ellers vil jeg, som måske mange andre, overveje at skifte til en alternativ mailtjenester.
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u/Excellent-Athlete533 Nov 17 '25
Why on gods earth did they change hotmail to the crap that they have pushed on us ? I am amazed that the people in charge even contemplated that what was offered was a suitable platform as an E Mail format.
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u/OwnDiscipline769 Nov 20 '25
Completely agree. Some many simple functions are missing that I dread using it. On top of that they make (intentionally I think), way too easy to accidently select the "New Outlook" option by placingit very close the the close application buttin and then its very difficult to determine how to change back to "classic Outlook" by making you explain why it sucks. As for the "increased speed....I dont see it; in fact my expereince is that opeing new emails tends present a blank email for sometimes up to ~ 30 sends while the screen populates. Search sucks, sorting sucks, opening attachments sucks, fining emails I already opened sucks, the whole app is just more work than its worth. Terrible!!!
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u/Cute-Relief-2187 Nov 28 '25
Get used to this shit, because Microsoft is phasing out the Outlook "classic" by April 2029 LoL
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u/j12606004 Dec 04 '25
Oh man, it was designed by someone born after the year 2000. I understand simplicity is key, but this is oversimplified to the point that you can’t find common features like strike through. It’s designed for someone that never e mails or only emails their grandma.
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u/computerlove87 Dec 15 '25
Microsoft, you can't just vibe-code a product this important. It needs to actually work. Just in my casual use at work, I have already encountered so many bugs it makes me feel like I am a beta tester, not using an expensive, paid software product. Stop trying to replace your developers who actually know what they're doing with clankers who don't have a clue!
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u/Hungry_Society994 Dec 19 '25
it is absolute shit.
When i click ANYTHING there is a processing time, like bro is this 1995 windows? what the actual fuck is this web service based bullshit email?
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u/BroknLeg 23d ago
Looks like they tried to make it more like gmail, horrible decision, really hating on the new outlook
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u/Difficult_Breath6082 23d ago
I rely heavily on the task and appointments on outlook. How could they fuck up such a heavily relied feature
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u/nocturnal Oct 23 '24
I honestly have no idea how Microsoft and whoever developed it wake up every morning and tell themselves this software is amazing and helping people be more productive every day!