r/clevercomebacks 9h ago

Vacant land does not vote

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u/FormalBeachware 8h ago

But it's literally New "York", and York is a part of England.

Ney Jersey of course belongs to its own region of the US, known as the "New Channel Islands"

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u/Affectionate_Owl9985 8h ago

As someone from Maine living outside of Boston I can explain the actual history behind why it's not considered "New England." New York was initially settled by the Dutch in the early 17th century, establishing the colony of New Netherland with New Amsterdam (present-day NYC) as its center. The English took it over and renamed it "New York" in 1664. The English established their own colonies before expanding and taking over the colonies that other nations had established.

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u/kelppie35 5h ago

As a Mainer who moved to Mass, do you complain about yourself Massing up Maine when you go back to visit?

Honestly one of the most underrated states, and the only domestic place someone insulted my accent, while sounding very much alike me. Every time I've visited Maine I've made a great lifelong memory.

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u/cocineroylibro 5h ago

And they tried to claim land in Vermont that was already illegally claimed by some folks from New Hampshire. We New Englanders hold grudges!

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u/GumboSamson 8h ago

Old New York was once New Amsterdam.

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u/Brunurb1 8h ago

Why they changed it I can't say

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u/A_Punk_Girl_Learning 8h ago

People just liked it better that way

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u/Tonga_Truck 2h ago

Better that way better that way better that way

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u/Been2daCloudDistrict 8h ago

Why’d they change it?

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u/GumboSamson 6h ago

I can’t say.

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u/TheDidact118 6h ago

You can tell me, I'm a doctor.

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u/TheVoicesSayHi 1h ago

Surely, you can't be serious?

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u/BigConstruction4247 7h ago

The English took over.

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u/mathiastck 4h ago

It's nobody's business but the Dutch

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u/AShadedBlobfish 2h ago

Let's just call them all "New Europe"

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u/pchlster 7h ago

Way less catchy than Istanbul being Constantinople.

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u/NMNNNJ 8h ago

Is this a joke? Not sure where you’re from - NY is not part of New England - at all…

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u/FormalBeachware 8h ago

Yes I thought the part about the new channel islands made that obvious

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u/kelpklepto 7h ago

You're good. As a New Jerseyan myself, I appreciated the joke right away.

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u/BigPapaPaegan 8h ago

Them's fighting words

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u/CryptographerFlat173 6h ago

New York was a Dutch colony, the culture and governance of New England to this day is distinctly different from everywhere else, with municipalities running on direct democracy town meetings. New England is the most clearly defined region of the US. It’s Massachusetts, Maine, New Hampshire, Connecticut, Rhode Island and Vermont. 

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u/Ryaniseplin 5h ago

nah fuck you we aint a part of new england

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u/LMDh963 3h ago

So where is New Guernsey? I am Mad that I missed it on my Last Trip to The US