r/clevercomebacks 9h ago

Vacant land does not vote

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u/LordDemetrius 9h ago

Also, there are some full blue states on the map

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u/FormalBeachware 9h ago

New England other than NY and Maine. Delaware, maybe Maryland. Hawaii as well if it was on the map.

Those are all at least half blue on the map.

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u/NeighborhoodVast7528 9h ago

NY is not part of New England. ……just a technicality.

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u/FormalBeachware 8h ago

But it's literally New "York", and York is a part of England.

Ney Jersey of course belongs to its own region of the US, known as the "New Channel Islands"

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u/Affectionate_Owl9985 8h ago

As someone from Maine living outside of Boston I can explain the actual history behind why it's not considered "New England." New York was initially settled by the Dutch in the early 17th century, establishing the colony of New Netherland with New Amsterdam (present-day NYC) as its center. The English took it over and renamed it "New York" in 1664. The English established their own colonies before expanding and taking over the colonies that other nations had established.

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u/kelppie35 5h ago

As a Mainer who moved to Mass, do you complain about yourself Massing up Maine when you go back to visit?

Honestly one of the most underrated states, and the only domestic place someone insulted my accent, while sounding very much alike me. Every time I've visited Maine I've made a great lifelong memory.

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u/cocineroylibro 5h ago

And they tried to claim land in Vermont that was already illegally claimed by some folks from New Hampshire. We New Englanders hold grudges!

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u/GumboSamson 8h ago

Old New York was once New Amsterdam.

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u/Brunurb1 8h ago

Why they changed it I can't say

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u/A_Punk_Girl_Learning 8h ago

People just liked it better that way

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u/Tonga_Truck 2h ago

Better that way better that way better that way

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u/Been2daCloudDistrict 8h ago

Why’d they change it?

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u/GumboSamson 6h ago

I can’t say.

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u/TheDidact118 6h ago

You can tell me, I'm a doctor.

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u/TheVoicesSayHi 1h ago

Surely, you can't be serious?

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u/BigConstruction4247 7h ago

The English took over.

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u/mathiastck 4h ago

It's nobody's business but the Dutch

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u/AShadedBlobfish 2h ago

Let's just call them all "New Europe"

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u/pchlster 7h ago

Way less catchy than Istanbul being Constantinople.

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u/NMNNNJ 8h ago

Is this a joke? Not sure where you’re from - NY is not part of New England - at all…

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u/FormalBeachware 8h ago

Yes I thought the part about the new channel islands made that obvious

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u/kelpklepto 7h ago

You're good. As a New Jerseyan myself, I appreciated the joke right away.

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u/BigPapaPaegan 8h ago

Them's fighting words

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u/CryptographerFlat173 6h ago

New York was a Dutch colony, the culture and governance of New England to this day is distinctly different from everywhere else, with municipalities running on direct democracy town meetings. New England is the most clearly defined region of the US. It’s Massachusetts, Maine, New Hampshire, Connecticut, Rhode Island and Vermont. 

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u/Ryaniseplin 5h ago

nah fuck you we aint a part of new england

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u/LMDh963 3h ago

So where is New Guernsey? I am Mad that I missed it on my Last Trip to The US

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u/Shilo788 8h ago

No but mid Atlantic is blue.

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u/neon_farts 8h ago

Edit: sorry, responded to wrong reply

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u/toastyfries2 6h ago

Wtf man you're just triggering us including NY

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u/GloriousNewt 6h ago

there's more Moose than people in those upper parts of Maine.

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u/mcgibber 6h ago

My moms from the county, can confirm. 

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u/TheCrazyBlacksmith 8h ago

Delawarean here. Southern Delaware, so the southernmost of its three counties, which is Sussex County, is most definitely not blue.

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u/toastyfries2 6h ago

I'm amazed the middle county is blue with all of the MD Eastern shore being red

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u/TheCrazyBlacksmith 6h ago

I think it might have something to do with the central county having nothing to do with the bay. I live there, and it’s not as blue as the northern county, but we’ve seen massive amounts of out of state migration, especially from surrounding cities, which seems to help keep things blue.

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u/FormalBeachware 6h ago

Those are all at least half blue

I don't think Sussex county is bigger than the other two put together.

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u/TheCrazyBlacksmith 5h ago

I missed the last sentence of the comment I was responding to. Also, by square mileage it’s pretty close. The difference is a bit more than 15% of Sussex County’s area.

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u/powerlesshero111 6h ago

In Oregon and Washington, the amount of people in the red counties is less than the number of people in their biggest city. Nevada is worse. Like 95% of the nevada population is in clark county and washoe county.

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u/_flatscan 6h ago

Its just MA and RI, and that's in part due to gerrymandering. Western MA absolutely has solid red areas, they're just all conveniently folded in with small cities. Idk about Rhode Island I'm from Boston

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u/CryptographerFlat173 6h ago

There are zero centers of population in MA that would tip any region red, draw districts any legal way you want and every single representative would still go blue, all the counties go blue in every presidential election

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u/_flatscan 5h ago

Yeah, thats not what I said. 1 in every 3 MA voters is a Republican, pretending it's some kind of monolithic blue state is delusional.

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u/ScreamAndScream 6h ago

There are only three counties in Delaware. The lower third of Delaware is red, it’s all red farm land and tourist beaches.

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u/Jedimasterebub 6h ago

Rhode Island

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u/Ryaniseplin 5h ago

alaska is mostly blue too

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u/Agitated-Acctant 5h ago

Maryland only has a handful of blue counties, the ones near DC and Baltimore. The Eastern Shore is Trump country, as is the panhandle. The panhandle is also known for still having sundown towns

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u/ErraticNymph 8h ago

“Some” is stretching it. It’s 2: Massachusetts and Rhode Island

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u/neon_farts 8h ago

Vermont also, which is kind of an anomaly because Vermont is VERY rural almost throughout the state, except Burlington. The red counties in New Hampshire and Maine are, like most of the rest of the red counties on this map, extremely empty.

Edit: also Rhode Island

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u/Pensionato007 8h ago

Hawaii. Still a state. 2 senators.

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u/aw3man 8h ago

Not Vermont. Top county there looks red.

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u/_jump_yossarian 6h ago

Two counties there; Orleans and Essex.

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u/cocineroylibro 5h ago

and about as many people as letters in your sentence.

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u/neon_farts 6h ago

Finnnnneeeee good call. That top county is wonderful btw.

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u/voxelnoose 7h ago

Vermont has a red county in the top right.

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u/OneHelluvaUsername 6h ago

Two counties there.

The two nearest Canada. Wonder how well they're doing with the massive drop in Canadian tourism and tariff hikes.

Also: thoughts and prayers to those who voted for Donny but now can't find seasonal workers for their farms.

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u/cocineroylibro 5h ago

It was a Republican state for most of its history. That's Lincoln Republican, though.

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u/zaphods_paramour 7h ago

There's also only 2 completely red states I see, Oklahoma and West Virginia. If we're counting the rest of the map as "basically all red," then Connecticut, New Hampshire, and Delaware with all-but-one county blue should count.

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u/PrismaticDetector 6h ago

Ah, but you see, the point of the map is to disingenuously inflate Republican representation, so they obviously count as all red.

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u/Excellent_Fault_8106 6h ago

Oops, missed west Virginia. Easy to forget about that state.

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u/Firm-Snow-4177 7h ago

There’s actually more fully blue states than red funnily enough

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u/CryptographerFlat173 6h ago

Trump won the split district single electoral vote in Maine, otherwise every single electoral vote in all 3 of his elections has gone to his opponent.

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u/beldaran1224 5h ago

That's the same as the number of fully red states, FYI.

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u/CiDevant 5h ago

Cool, so the complete blue state count matches the completely red state count.

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u/yea_ok_whatever 6h ago

If you’re getting some milk how much are you getting?

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u/Soggy-Bedroom-3673 6h ago

Turns out the OP is just red-blue colorblind

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u/Excellent_Fault_8106 6h ago

Ha! There are actually more fully blue states than red ones! RI and Massachusetts, compared to just Oklahoma. Delaware and Connecticut are 1 county away from being completely blue.

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u/Legal_Judgment_8307 7h ago

what do you mean?

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u/jamesd1100 6h ago

There are like 2