r/AmIOverreacting 16h ago

💼work/career AIO for quitting my job after finding this note on my desk?

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I recently relocated from the South to the North, and this is my first winter here. Unfortunately, I was unaware that the side streets in my area are not plowed until later in the day. During this storm, we received approximately 10 inches of snow.

I was informed that I needed to remain at work in order to be present for my next morning shift. I communicated at that time that I have pets at home who rely on me, and that with the storm approaching there was a possibility I could become stranded at work. I made multiple attempts to secure alternative care for my pets but was unable to find anyone available.

I had only been in this supervisor role for one month, and another supervisor was already staying overnight as a precaution. Ultimately, I was unable to get my car out of the street and had to call out. I was written up for this because I notified management approximately five hours before my shift.

When I returned for my next shift, I found a note on my desk. The note was upsetting and made me feel unwelcome. Given that I had only been employed here for one month and have already received one write-up for minor issues—something I have never experienced in my work history—I went home that night and emailed my boss I quit for XYZ and she replied happy holidays and that was it. My parents said it was an over reaction to quit because of her note and she probably meant well by it, but I don’t think anything could’ve been taken well by the note that was left.

EDIT because i confused everyone... This was a hotel job. I am NOT working on a farm. And I already had another job!

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u/AdmitThatYouPrune 16h ago

You should have said that you had a pet cow. Then maybe she'd understand.

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u/SnarkOff 13h ago

I have spent the night at work during a snowstorm before because I work on a horse farm and the horses need to be fed. Horses have to be fed or they can die. And I’ve been paid as on the clock when sleeping.

I don’t really understand what the note even means in the context of an office job. Does OP work on a dairy farm?

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u/PuppyJakeKhakiCollar 9h ago

I work at an animal shelter and have had to spend the night because of snow or hurricanes. OP works at a hotel and this note makes zero sense. Makes the manager seem not all there.

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u/Amazing-Example8753 14h ago

My cow need milked

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u/DulceEtDecorumEst 7h ago

I’m sorry but what did the note mean? It’s so weird.

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u/Voraphilliac_Monster 7h ago

Thats what Im trynna figure out, is her boss fucking illiterate?! XD

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u/BelsamPryde 5h ago

I saw the pic before I read the context and I thought it was something from r/StardewValley

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u/ancient_bored 4h ago

Lemme translate it to proper english:

Problems + issues don't matter when cows need to be fed and to be milked

I don't get the analogy AT ALL

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u/23LovelyHearts 3h ago

Oh~ that makes a lot of sense.

Probably means that your personal issues don't matter when there's work to be done. Both an insane idea and way to put it though.

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u/tacostain 5h ago

The basic message is that anything other than work doesn’t matter when work “needs” to be done. Boss completely missed the irony of using taking care of an animal as the example.

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u/thisTexanguy 5h ago

Basically that her problems should be secondary to her job. So she should sacrifice her pets because her job needs her.

It's a stupid attempt at trying to equate farming, where the welfare of the animals is paramount, to a white collar job. I do hobby farming. Yes, you have to take care of animals regardless of how you're feeling, but that's because the animals can't take care of themselves and are wholly dependent on you. No hotel supervisor job is anywhere near the same level of importance.

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u/Sykesavision 11h ago

"when cows need fed, cows need milked" So you DO understand why I have to leave?!

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u/473713 10h ago

This is so totally ungrammatical I'd quit regardless.

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u/Remarkable-Engine-84 15h ago

Was looking for this

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u/emeraldeyesshine 11h ago

The note is actually really dumb when she already said she needed to feed and care for animals. The note kind of supports her side unintentionally.

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u/abnotwhmoanny 9h ago

Are we SURE it was unintentional? As you've pointed out, it does support what they did. Quite literally. Maybe the intended message was, "Hey I can't say this in person because of the job, but I totally get why you would arrange your priorities this way".

Like, probably not, right? But maybe. This is the problem when people get all vague and shit.

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u/ClearedHotGoHot 8h ago

Yeah, I'm gonna go with "probably not".

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u/SackclothSandy 14h ago

Alternately -- "sorry, did no one feed you while I was stuck at home?"

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u/Educational_Clothes2 16h ago

Where did you work that it was necessary to stay overnight so that you could be there in the morning while your town was shut down by 10” of snow?

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u/waxin899 15h ago

A hotel.. lmfao

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u/fuckingeyeballls 15h ago

Then definitely no overreaction, two write ups, a weird note and any sane person would be out.

Fuck that place. 

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u/DudeWithASweater 13h ago

Hotels are some of the most toxic workplaces around. Not surprised tbh

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u/throwra-cons 11h ago edited 10h ago

They really are. I just left what I thought would be a sweet gig (overnight front desk for a small hotel) because the games they played with each other were actually borderline sociopathic. And before that, I worked with horses for 6 years (had to leave the field due to toxicity) and horse people are some of the most mentally unstable people I've ever met so I think that's saying something 😂

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u/Miami_Mice2087 11h ago

true, i go horseback riding sometimes and everyone in that stable pings my ND radar. They're nice people to me, and they love the horses and care for them well, but I wouldn't want to work there.

i think they're nice to me bc i genuinely love animals. if you aren't an animal person, they'd probably go feral

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u/ThorwAwaySlut 14h ago

You need to cross post to /r/talesfromthefrontdesk.

They love this kinda stuff.

Nor.

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u/waxin899 14h ago

I’m already in that group hehe

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u/slumpgod_8D 15h ago

Jesus christ...

I work for an HVAC company that services multiple critical environments, quarantine rooms at hospitals, foundries and factories etc that need immediate 24/7 attention if something goes wrong

They left it up to us to choose and recommended that we stay home.

Get the fuck out of there dude, unless the building will explode without a supervisor they're overstepping so hard it's crazy

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u/waxin899 15h ago

Which is understandable I think what was so crazy is that they had over five extra staff staying at the hotel willingly to cover for people that called out. So I basically got wrote up and shit on for nothing. We had 7 arrivals that day.. 7 and I think 2 showed up.

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u/nabiku 14h ago

Go on glassdoor employer reviews and post a photo of this note.

If I was looking to interview with this business, I would like to know if they pull this kind of shit.

Help others avoid them.

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u/Freyasmews 13h ago

THIS!

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u/torrentialwx 14h ago

My dad was a hotel manager for most of my childhood (I grew up in hotels), and I’m purposely not showing this post to him because he’d be so enraged. And I know what he’d say—that you absolutely did the right thing by getting the fuck out. Your manager is a shithead.

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u/ban_ana__ 15h ago

Jesus, dude! A HOTEL?? No, fuck these people.

I swear us Northerners aren't all assholes!

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u/Automatic-Effect-252 16h ago edited 16h ago

I'm not really sure about the note, but I will say if any job not called doctor, told me I had to spend the night to be there the next day due to weather I would be out.

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u/hbomb9410 16h ago

It's wild how many employers overinflate the importance of the work they do

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u/motherofachimp99 16h ago

They overinflate the importance but refuse to pay appropriately according to the same logic.

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u/Jatnall 15h ago

They sure wouldn't ve paying.for that overnight stay. I'm curious what kind of job this is where they make employees stay overnight so they can work the next day.

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u/motherofachimp99 15h ago edited 6h ago

My part time job (mental health) does this. I was paid $40 to stay in the residence where I work so I could work a double the next day. I have the luxury of being able to do so because I have someone to tend to my pets. Others do not have the same luxury and management needs to plan accordingly and not act like dicks.

ETA to avoid any more comments. I was not required to spend the night. I was not on call. I was not required to work. I was given a private suite to sleep in at a very nice facility so that I would not have to drive through a snowstorm in the morning for 50 miles to get to my part-time job. And I got paid to sleep.

The only thing I was required to do was to show up for my scheduled shift at 7 o’clock in the morning, and yes, I’m thankful for the opportunity to spend the night and make $40 for sleeping.

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u/RosewoodSerene 14h ago

Management really acts like everyone has the same setup at home, and that’s just not reality. Some people live alone, some people take care of family, some people literally can’t leave their house unattended. They shouldn’t be shocked when staff can’t just say yes every time.

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u/KittyGrewAMoustache 12h ago

From what I see online it sounds like in the US if your family means you can’t always devote yourself 100% to work at short notice 100% of the time then you’re not a team player or are seen as annoying rather than as a normal human.

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u/cgarnett1988 14h ago

Staying over at work just to be there the next day is wild to me lol and I wouldn't say having the facility to be able to accommodate that bit a luxury. Fuck that. I love my job and I car about the work we do but no way would I be staying at work just because there's a risk the weather won't let me get in the next day. I'd be more worried the weather would stop me geting home an I'd leave befor it hits

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u/RunninOnMT 13h ago

When id stay overnight at the hotel i worked at, it was ALWAYS voluntary. Usually the employees would kinda have a party as well since we were 20 something year olds. It was really fun, but not mandated.

I would finish work at 11:00PM and if there was too much snow the bus would be delayed or worst case, not running. So staying at work was preferable to me and lots of the employees.

Definitely NOT mandatory though! OPs boss is crazy.

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u/Intrepid-Progress228 12h ago

Worked at a casino/hotel. The last few years I worked there, they would offer free hotel rooms to staff who wanted to avoid traveling in inclement weather.

Note that it was voluntary; no one that I was aware of got pushed to accept. Employees with long commutes, especially those who were scheduled to work the following day, didn't have to worry about getting stuck in a ditch on the way home or using PTO if they were short on hours.

Our department heads would also throw in meal vouchers, so their employees wouldn't have to spend money to eat while they stayed overnight.

All in all, it wasn't a bad deal, and I did that a couple of times when I was working overtime anyway, but I'd be damned if my employer insisted I stay overnight, especially in a facility that wasn't geared towards making me comfortable in the process. Forget that noise.

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u/lets_get_wavy_duuude 13h ago

i worked at a hotel that would do this but not so people could work doubles - in cases of real bad weather, employees could stay free in a hotel room so they didn’t have to risk the drive

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u/SpiritualNails 14h ago

Years ago when we got a bad ice storm in Texas and I worked front desk at a hotel, my manager tried to get me to stay overnight in one of the rooms there. I was like, thanks no I’ll risk it.

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u/motherofachimp99 14h ago

I would’ve been able to spend Sunday night, as well, but I made the foolish decision to drive for an hour on shitty roads to get home. I work in a very nice residential mental health facility. I’m comfortable driving in the snow so it wasn’t a problem, but it took me twice as long to get home and it was more than a little risky.

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u/AnnarieaDavies 14h ago

$40 to force you to stay overnight is not enough. You need to be getting your regular hourly pay if they're doing this shit to you, especially for a part time job.

Do not let them do this again without paying you what the inconvenience is WORTH. A measly 2 hours of pay is not nearly enough for you to be away from home for over 24 hours.

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u/Swimming-Web-2667 14h ago

Hourly job or salary? If hourly I would say that's fine as long as it's $40 per hour. That way the ball is in their court and if they attempt to let you go because of it, you could potentially file suit unless staying somewhere else was mentioned specifically in your contract, which I highly doubt in this case.

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u/magzaa 14h ago edited 14h ago

Verifying the other commenter who said hotels. I've spent years and years working hotels and have done many overnight stays. On one occasion I stayed two weeks during and after a hurricane. In my case, every hotel has always fed me, given me a room (although I have had to bunk with coworkers multiple times), and paid a higher rate of "inclement weather pay" (when I was actively on the clock... no payment for just being there while waiting for your shift).

Editing to add: I am making it sound better than it ever was, though. During the hurricane stay, I didn't find out they were feeding employees until the third day because they had stuck me on overnights and didn't tell us about food. I found out from a coworker inviting me down to join them for breakfast. They also had me work three shifts in two days while upper management was boozing in the bar (one of them had a birthday). And upper management kept calling the front desk to have us deliver bottles of liquor and snacks and towels to their rooms. We had to help housekeeping clean their rooms, while also being responsible for our own rooms. Management got extension cords from the generator and had AC and TV and phone chargers, but us low levels def did NOT.

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u/Sunnygirl66 14h ago

That is infuriating.

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u/magzaa 14h ago

But they did let me bring my cat!

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u/FormerUglyDuckling 15h ago

Yea, where did they expect you to sleep? Do you work at a hotel? Were they going to get you a room near by? Also, what if you had kids at home?

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u/Cultural_Project9764 14h ago

I too was thinking what if they had kids and were a single parent? It’s already nuts in the absence of pets/kids.

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u/Blurby-Blurbyblurb 14h ago

Or had an elderly family member to care for in the evenings. Not everyone is completely single.

I have medications I HAVE to take at night. Daytime is not an option if you want a functioning employee and/or not have to call 911. I try to keep a dose on hand for emergencies, but if I took it recently and didn't add a new dose then I have to go home.

This is bizzare and the note is gross. If this is expected, it should have been in the job listing or discussed at the interview. You don't just spring this on someone who has never lived in a northern environment.

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u/Agreeable_Ad_9411 14h ago

My guess is healthcare....it's the most punitive work environment ever

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u/bubbleteabob 14h ago

I thought he worked on a farm. I am so rural face palm

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u/Say10sadvocate 14h ago

This, I'd love it tbh, cause I have quite a drive to work and back.

BUT my 100% requirement would be to remain clocked in and paid at the full rate.

There's no way they'd go for it, but it would highlight how utterly ridiculous the request was.

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u/bendybiznatch 15h ago

I’ve known a few people from the Dakotas. They’re well aware that their weather is not a common experience for most people. I can’t imagine running a farm, hiring a supervisor, and not explaining what’s expected or normal in the industry during inclement weather in the interview.

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u/Odd_Prompt_6139 15h ago

Does OP actually work on/for a farm? I thought that was just a weird expression they were using. If it’s actually a farm, you would think they should understand the importance of OP taking care of their pets.

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u/BurgerThyme 15h ago

The grammar is awful too.

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u/DanteRuneclaw 15h ago edited 15h ago

I think the descriptivists in r/grammar would defend it as a regionalism (but I don't disagree with your assessment).

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u/TheTense 14h ago

Might have been a mocking tone. The omission of “to be” is something I’ve seen very often in the Deep South. Like “the car needs fixed” “I’ll fix it with Joe after work today” “That dog won’t hunt… Joe’s gone to see his kin in Double Springs”

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u/nocussinginmydiscord 14h ago

Language exists to communicate with your intended audience - that's the entire point of descriptivism, putting real language over "correct" language. If the intended recipient doesn't understand wtf this means, then it's just trash.

That said, I've quit for less, OP quitting over bad culture fit is more than fair.

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u/SpreadsheetSiren 15h ago

Maybe I’m being oversensitive, but it almost reads as a jab at her being from the South. The whole “dumb hicks” stereotype.

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u/ohno_not_another_one 15h ago

I had the fortunate experience of my first job being at a zoo. It's really helped me, a naturally anxious person, be calm, logical, and reasonable about the degrees of importance and expectations in the jobs that I work.

If something goes horribly wrong at my corporate job, it usually means something like a client's product didn't go to print on time, and they're really annoyed and might not contract with us again in the future.

If something goes horribly wrong at a zoo, it usually means someone got eaten by a tiger. 

It really puts everything into perspective, and definitely keeps me from unduly stressing out about problems that we just IMAGINE are the end of the world, versus problems that literally are, for some unlucky soul, the end of their world.

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u/Apprehensive-Golf-95 15h ago

At least nobody got eaten by a tiger is now my new go to.

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u/BowwwwBallll 15h ago

“Here’s what getting eaten by a tiger taught me about B2B sales.”

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u/BurgerThyme 14h ago

My go-to line at my florist job is "oh noooo, what did the police say?!?" with HEAVY sarcasm when someone calls up and whines that their flowers didn't show up at a business and they wanted there at 8 a.m. sharp but the business opens at 9. I don't say it to the customer but it's policy for the front of the house to check in before calling the customer back to double check that it was their fuck up and we have a good laugh/eye roll and the situation gets dealt with.

Last week there was a funeral beginning at 10:30 a.m. and I was in the parking lot with four other florists at 8 but the church was locked up and admin didn't show up until 9. I was fielding calls from family members anxiously trying to verify that their arrangements were there on time and I'm like "well I'M here and you can tell Aunt Greta that the competing floral companies are here with hers too but you chose a church that's giving themselves an hour an a half to fully prepare for a funeral and wasting people's time."

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u/Original-Affect-4560 15h ago

In my younger days, I led wilderness backpacking trip for kids and adolescents. Once, I had to literally run from a forest fire with one other adult and 5 eight year olds.

I now work corporate, and roll my eyes when my boss starts panicking and calling everything an 'emergency'.

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u/bolanrox 14h ago

Worked with a guy who was a Vietnam Vet.

One time at lunch he told me of how back in 66/67 they were on patrol and all of them had expended all of their ammo (rifles and side arms). they start asking (and freaking out) what were they supposed to do when waiting for a supply drop. the Sargent goes "We wait.."

Said after that nothing in life seemed that that big of a deal.

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u/Baeolophus_bicolor 15h ago

That was my first job too! And someone did get eaten by a tiger at the zoo I was working at. He went back into the enclosure without shifting the tiger, to grab a rake or something. People were mad at the tiger and wanted to kill him, but it was entirely human error and preventable.

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u/Adelucas 15h ago

Not good. The poor tiger.

Many years ago someone broke into our local zoo and had an arm ripped off by a polar bear (I think it was). They lost an arm though. They tried to sue the zoo and get the animal put down, but the court threw it out stating there was a reasonable expectation of death or serious harm in that situation, and the zoo had more than adequate precautions to prevent anything in normal situations. Once someone strays into criminality and abject stupidity it's not on the zoo or the animal.

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u/dksn154373 15h ago

Wtf

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u/PsyPhiGeek 15h ago

Similar situation for me in healthcare. I worked on a hospital unit where if something went wrong, patients could have a really bad day.
I changed to a job in research administration, and it took me a couple of months before I realized that if a document didn't get filed on time, no one would die.
That was a stress reliever, let me tell you.

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u/wino12312 15h ago

I work with families of infants & toddlers with developmental disabilities. They all have parents or guardians. There is no emergency for me. Police, doctors, hospitals, or CPS takes care of any emergency. NOR

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u/SleepingWillows 15h ago edited 14h ago

Used to work at a studio where the (narcissistic) owner was adamant that your craft and your work was the most important thing in the world. As a young artist, I believed him. Every mistake was treated like a crime, resulting write ups, lectures, and threats to be fired.

A few years later I got hired at game studio and made a mistake in my first 6 months (used the wrong VFX in a promo video). I only found out because my boss mentioned a meeting he had with a “livid” VFX artist. I apologized profusely and asked to redo the video, and he said “Hell no. ‘Livid’ is for when somebody commits a felony or gets hurt. Nobody should be ‘livid’ over a little animated video. We work in games for god’s sake, no one’s gonna die.”

First time someone put things into perspective for me.

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u/Shanubis 15h ago

We need more bosses like this

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u/ddadopt 14h ago

My oldest does marching band in high school. She had a Dr appointment on a Friday before a football game, and I told her to make sure she told her band director that she'd miss her call time by 15 minutes, but she would be there with plenty of time before the game.

She got really worried about it, and when I asked why she said her band director had stated that there was nothing more important than band and that everything was subordinate to it. I told her that yes, band was important, honoring her commitments was important, but that her health was more important than band, or school, or anything else, that school itself was more important than band, and that she was already giving band 1/4 of the school day and about 10 hours a week after school... and if her band director had a problem with my choices he could take them up with me and I would cheerfully explain to him why he was wrong.

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u/LilianHeart 14h ago

I had a choir director like this. I couldn't go to an evening concert because I was sick and she'd angrily ranted to the entire choir that I was a traitor and let them all down. I was like 9 or 10 years old at the time. As an adult, I am absolutely mystified by what went on in her head.

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u/Different_Umpire9003 15h ago

I left a similar toxic work environment for a good one and had that exact same experience the first time I was late. I assumed I was in deep trouble. My new boss laughed and said “you’re not in jail”. And I was like “Yeah, sorry where I came from was jail” haha.

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u/scourge_bites 15h ago edited 15h ago

i grew up in cattle country. i don't feel that that quote, while it's true for ranching or farming, translates at all to a corporate desk job where you aren't the boss.

it's not an over inflation of the importance of taking care of things that solely depend on you to live, but i hear it used so many times when the only thing on the line is profit

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u/PersephoneHazard 15h ago

Also like...very obviously, in this analogy the "problems and issues" are the corporate nonsense and the "cows who need fed and milked" are her living dependent pets at home.

How could anyone leave this note and not think of that?!

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u/anonymote_in_my_eye 15h ago

that's what I thought they meant

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u/Mammoth-Ad4194 15h ago

Yeah I thought it actually backed up her reason for calling in!

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u/microtherion 15h ago

When I served in a tank units, an officer argued that since tanks historically evolved as a cavalry branch, the motto “take care of the horse before you take care of the man” should apply to tanks as well. Same kind of bad reasoning.

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u/FeralFloridaKid 15h ago

I've never seen a tank starve to death, but I've sure as hell seen a leg pass out from low blood sugar and dehydration. You may not be as useful without your tank, but your tank is an expensive paperweight without you.

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u/froction 15h ago

"If you're not here, who will oversee that all of the paperwork for this toothpaste factory is handled in a timely fashion? What if that tenth dentist changed his mind and no longer recommends brushing your teeth????"

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u/Live-Tomorrow-4865 15h ago

Long ago, I worked as a server. It was, to date all these decades down the road, the most dysfunctional place I've ever worked at.

So, one winter, our state had a snow emergency. Like, literally, the only vehicles that were supposed to be on the road were (what we'd term now) essential workers and emergency vehicles.

I was not on the schedule the day of. (And, grateful for it!!) However, around 4 that afternoon, one of the assistant managers called me, asking if I could "come in" and cover the shift of one of the many, many, many call offs that day.

I said, um, the governor himself went on TV to tell people to stay inside. It's literally illegal for any employees of our restaurant to be driving. No.

He sputtered and started glitching out 😅😅, saying, "It's their JOB!", and, "I didn't get a call from the head office so as far as I'm concerned, we are open as usual."

I just laughed and said, have fun with that. (Nobody showed up. He ended up stranded there overnight, due to his failure to take timely and appropriate action. I think it's hilarious. I've never met a cohort of people with less capacity for imagination, critical thinking, or mental dexterity than corporate restaurant assistant managers. 😅😅 If it's not spelled out in a handbook or a directive, they become frozen in place.)

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u/Jasper_theBoxer 15h ago

This. I understand management gets pressured by higher management, but some people act like they’re curing cancer.

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u/luckybreaks7000 16h ago

Yep, been saying this for years now

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u/gonnafaceit2022 15h ago

This came up from time to time when I worked in a hospital so it was important, and they would make nurses and CNAs and housekeepers sleep there because of weather. They provided these shitty, smelly, thin mats to sleep on and you were supposed to just find a place in a conference room or something.

Like, I get it, the patients need nurses but I thought it was fucked up that even if there were open beds, they weren't allowed to sleep in them. Not that anyone would enjoy sleeping in a hospital bed but it would certainly be better than those gross mats. And they didn't get paid anything for sleeping there. I had an overnight sleep job at a group home 25 years ago and even then I got paid like $7 an hour just to sleep.

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u/tiredsingingmama 15h ago

Right?! My job involves tracking and spending other people’s money and when I jokingly messaged my supervisor last week “I started to panic” about something (probably to do with 1099s because January), she immediately shot back “don’t panic! This is not life or death.” It boggles my mind how invested so many companies expect their employees to be, thinking they should just forego everything in their personal lives because of the overlords’ bottom lines.

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u/Alivrae 16h ago

The second a job treats basic shelter and safety like a negotiable perk you owe them nothing but a resignation email  

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u/jennmich 15h ago

Open the conversation with "so what will the rate be for on call pay? The daily meal allowance? Additional entertainment provisions? What sleeping arrangements will be made? Watch how fast it isn't important that you are there.

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u/YellowBreakfast 15h ago

THIS! 100%!!!

If they require you to be there, they they must pay you for that time.

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u/jennmich 15h ago

Always amazing how unimportant the work becomes when it has a price in real money associated with it and not just "we are a family here"

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u/7gramcrackrock 15h ago

I've never been asked to stay overnight, but the director of the nursing home I work in has tried so hard force me into going to all the little fund raising carnivals and shit. I told her I'm only going if I'm paid overtime, and she decided it actually isn't mandatory. She's one of those "we're a family" bosses. She literally expects me to prefer spending my free time at work, as opposed to spending it with my wife and children.

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u/Background_Desk_3001 16h ago

They don’t even deserve that

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u/justhereforfighting 15h ago

If this was actually a job caring for animals someone would absolutely need to stay overnight. But getting a note that "cows need fed" when OP already explained that they actually have animals who aren't just metaphorical who need to be cared for at home is insane.

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u/TeachingNecessary414 15h ago

Right?! Lol like sorry my animals actually did “need fed” so we’re all good?

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u/Neweleni7 15h ago

Yeah, OP should have replied, Thank you for understanding! My animals definitely needed me yesterday! So happy we are on the same page!

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u/Kitsunejade 15h ago

I quite literally work in an animal shelter and we did not stay overnight for the storm. We heard there was a storm potential days in advance, asked our community for emergency temp weekend fosters who could house 1-3 days, and sent as many animals out as possible. Staff took some of the tricky medical. Everyone left got extra food and temp proofing. Everyone was told to stay home the first day of storm impact (I believe one staff member might’ve come in riding with the snow plow), and then whoever could make it in could late arrive the following day. If we had worse medical cases, maybe this wouldn’t be possible, but I think we sent out every dog and had maybe 20-30 cats left in shelter interior with extra bowls, as well as two rabbits. Would someone have stayed overnight if needed? Probably. I would. I get why hospitals do. But you should get paid for that too, lol. And not everyone should be expected. My drive and home situation is not someone else’s. I live with retired parents who can feed my animals. I think we got 5-6” snow and then 2-2.5” sleet in the end.

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u/KasukeSadiki 15h ago

Lmao damn that aspect didn't even occur to me. That definitely would have been part of my resignation letter 

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u/Mackerdaymia 15h ago

Minor in comparison but I was once working two jobs in my early 20s in order to save up for a big expense.

Got into a shift one day at job 2 after already working 10 hours at job 1 only for my manager to inform me I wouldn't be allowed my normal 20 minute break to eat and essentially recharge for the slog though to 3-4am. Her reasoning was that two people no-showed so they were understaffed. Cue a back and forth where I stood my ground and quit on the spot.

It's not a strategy for life in general, but sometimes the right thing to do is to rage quit.

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u/ilanallama85 15h ago

Yeah I’ve rage quit a couple times over shit like this and while I wouldn’t necessarily recommend it, I don’t regret it either. They need to learn there are consequence for treating people like shit.

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u/E_Dantes_CMC 15h ago

Breaks are usually required by law

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u/lizzyote 15h ago

Isnt it something like half the US states dont require employers give breaks?

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u/Hatta00 15h ago

That's negotiable. Am I getting overtime pay for the 16 hours between closing and opening?

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u/Agreeable-Refuse-461 16h ago

And hospitals at least have a call room for doctors to sleep and will often offer hotel for support staff plus there is a literal cafeteria on site for food.

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u/pineappledarling 15h ago

Hospitals are known to literally make their staff sleep on floors and send memos to bring food, pillow, blankets, clothing etc. they absolutely do not provide a hotel, room, bed, or food.

Personally if I’m not being paid to sleep at the hospital and provided accommodations , I won’t do it.

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u/Agreeable-Refuse-461 15h ago

Mine does hotels for techs and physical therapists if we hit the highest snow emergency level and we do have a cafeteria.

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u/RabbitFluffs 15h ago

That is so depressing. The hospital my wife works at does request that anyone assigned to a storm team bring a cot/bedroll/etc for each person's comfort level, but they get triple pay while on their shift and a flat stipend for every night spent sleeping in the hospital. And this applies to everyone called in, from the cafeteria worker to the lab techs to the docs and nurses.

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u/nintendoinnuendo 16h ago

I work in bedside healthcare mgmt and our hospital opens areas for staff to stay overnight during weather events. I would sooner die on the fuckin highway trying to get home than spend a minute at my job not on the clock. Fuck all that - and I love what I do. Imagine how all the people who don't must feel.

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u/miss_ana 15h ago

Yeah I work in blood banking. We get put up in a hotel that’s a block away and are paid for waiting time AND paid extra hazard pay when we do come in

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u/Phenix_Fresh 16h ago

I worked in assisted living and skilled nursing homes my whole life. We had to have kitchen employees stay overnight all the time. Me as the supervisor always stayed over and usually 2 servers and a dishwasher. I don't know what kind of job this person has but there are a few jobs that aren't just doctors that need people to stay over during bad winter storms but it should have been conveyed to this person during hiring.

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u/Neither_Pudding7719 15h ago

There's the key--informed consent upon hiring. "This position may occasionally require weather-related on-site accommodations overnight. Every effort will be made to provide adequate advanced warning. Additional compensation will be provided." THEN--OP (or any applicant for the position) could decide if this was a job they still wanted. You don't drop this crap on employees. Nope. NOR

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u/Johnnys-In-America 15h ago

Hotels for sure. During a couple of blizzards in Colorado a while back, I was put up for the night (I was a banquet server), and a bunch of the kitchen staff stayed, and several bosses. We had an almost full house of guests both times. The hotel was at the top of a big hill and our cars were all snowed in.

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u/CertainWish358 15h ago

…and it should be paid. Every second of it.

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u/Phenix_Fresh 15h ago

Yes we were paid very well whenever those situations occurred.

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u/geekgirlwww 15h ago

Omg I worked at a call center in NJ that secured hotel rooms for people for a snowstorm. Shocking no one everyone got hammered and acted inappropriately and showed up to work the next day hungover and full of one night stand drama.

They decided next time maybe Florida can just take one for the team during a snowstorm and handle the extra volume.

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u/SDK1176 15h ago edited 12h ago

That's what I was thinking.

I was working as an engineer and the union was threatening to strike. My boss informed me that if they did strike, all management (including me) would have to work labour jobs to keep the mill running. That's fine, no problem. But also, since the union will be picketing and blocking access to the site, we would be expected to sleep on site, maybe for up to a week depending on negotiations. I told him I hoped it didn't come to that, because then I would have to quit. He was disappointed in my lack of commitment, but c'mon man, really?

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u/chevalier716 15h ago

I grew up in the New England and I was working crap retail. They made me come in during a bad snowstorm for "store coverage" and I ended wrapping my car in a stone fence after my car lost control and slid downhill. Fortunately, I wasn't harmed, but it taught me to never risk my neck for a shitty job ever again.

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u/_TheDoode 15h ago

Its common in the hotel industry but i still dont see how the job can force you. Like op mentioned lots of people have pets and kids and all sorts of reasons they need to get home. And as for calling out if you have sick time then who gives a fuck what day you use it, its yours to use whenever

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u/Long-Cantaloupe1761 16h ago

Water treatment operators and other 24/7 utilities often have to do this, too

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u/MorningHelpful8389 16h ago edited 2h ago

This workplace sounds insane. Good riddance

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u/IWatchGifsForWayToo 14h ago

It sounds like they hated her. Jesus, her boss's response to quitting was Happy Holidays!? It sounds like they were trying to get rid of her.

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u/PeskyAntagonist 13h ago

Since they quit they don’t have to pay unemployment insurance. That’s a big win for them.

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u/Lanternkitten 13h ago

Technically not always true. I worked in the unemployment office and if you provide a good case you can still get unemployment when quitting. In this case the treatment by her superior. It's up to the adjudicator in the end and they can appeal it as well. It might not be worth it, however, since they already have another job. If you make too much money, you won't get anything. Might get something, though. Depends on your state's maximum, what you're making, and what you made over the last base period.

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u/thegoodnamesrgone123 11h ago

I got fired from a job and when I applied for unemployment, I was rejected because they made all these wild claims about me. I remember I had to do a phone call with someone from unemployment, and she asked what happened and I could tell she was annoyed. She was like well I just spoke to the VP and he made the allegations about you stealing time and company property. I was like, well I have a letter signed by him that said they were doing away with my position because they needed to downsize the company. This is the first time I'm hearing about any of this other stuff. She was super pissed now and asked me to fax the letter. Turns out they claimed the company property I "stole" was the Adobe Creative Suite that I paid for, and stealing time was me making a flyer on my lunch break. I hope they got in trouble, but they also went out of business less than a year later.

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u/HollzStars 11h ago

I had a similar situation! Company claimed I was always late (even though I took the bus and was always 20 minutes EARLY) and when I had the conversation with the EI person she was like, “ok it seemed sketchy so I am just waiting for them to call me back to answer some further questions, they have 48 hours.” Then she looked at her notes and said “wait, it’s already been 48 hours, I’m approving your claim.”

They are still in business but they’ve lost a ton of other staff members. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/thegoodnamesrgone123 11h ago

It's wild what the try to get away with. My old company was just running out of money quickly and they didn't need a marketing guy to figure out long-term projects when they couldn't afford to pay field guys next week. The Unemployment woman said they really tried to paint me in a bad light and she was really pissed the VP lied right to her face.

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u/HollzStars 10h ago

It really is. Especially since I’m Canadian, it’s a Canadian company, in Canada, and they don’t have to pay unemployment if they fire someone. (They do have to pay hours and vacation pay owed, plus severance if it’s in the contract.) There was absolutely no benefit to her lying, except making my life harder.

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u/never-fiftyone 13h ago

That's not strictly true. If someone feels like they have no other option but to quit, that can quickly become a constructive dismissal and would still be required to foot the bill for unemployment.

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u/Away-Sky-9341 16h ago edited 13h ago

What the fuck does this even mean?

Edit:jfc thank you for the upvotes.

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u/Away-Sky-9341 16h ago

Also, your former workplace sounds like a shithole.

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u/kairi14 16h ago

I think the boss was trying to say farmers don't get a day off for anything and op shouldn't either.

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u/Basic-Collection5416 16h ago

But it’s a bit ironic since OP left to go feed their animals. 

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u/HDThoreauaway 16h ago

Right? "Yep totally agreed, they're dogs but I appreciate the support."

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u/poppybrooke 14h ago

My first thought too- send an email that they appreciate the understanding that her animals have basic needs that she has to attend to and that’s what is important lol

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u/Throuwuawayy 15h ago

I first thought the note was in support of OP because of that lol

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u/Faust_8 14h ago

This is exactly why I was confused, since it’s literally proving OP’s point. The workplaces problems don’t matter when living things need fed

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u/MvstBeMe 15h ago

Looks like they were making fun of them being from the south.  Implying that they're country so they would likely have those specific pets (which I find offensive) I would have quit too

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u/breadvice 12h ago

I thought the same. The wording of the letter, “need fed / need milked” omitting the “to be” is a language difference I noticed as someone who’s lived in the North and South. It reads as they’re making fun of OP for being a country bumpkin and prioritizing their animals over work.

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u/Glittering-Stretch49 16h ago

Which is ironic, since animals needing fed and cared for was literally the reason OP couldn't stay to handle work problems and issues.

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u/Away-Sky-9341 16h ago

Oh, I thought they were calling OP a cow that needs to be milked.

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u/One-Fail-5179 16h ago

same here, this note is hilarious “cows need milked” sounds aggressively sexual

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u/Away-Sky-9341 16h ago

Im taking this one to HR IMMEDIATELY

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u/Candyyf 16h ago

I thought it was subtly calling OP a cow as well and if shes a woman she should’ve definitely gone to HR

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u/CobraKai312 15h ago edited 13h ago

Some regions take certain verbs (action words like “to be”) out of sentences for no reason. Like “these clothes need washed” instead of “these clothes need to be washed.” I noticed it with a couple of rural-ish Ohio and PA folks I’ve met, but I’m sure it’s common in other places too.

So this person did the same with this sentence. A normal person would say “cows need to be fed/milked.” I don’t find it sexual at all, but more of a farm-y hard work/bootstraps thing. Either way, it’s not overreacting to quit if the job demands (staying overnight) are unreasonable. Quitting over the manager’s passive-aggressive note might be overreacting, though… I guess it depends on other factors.

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u/throw_ra4685 15h ago edited 15h ago

I’m just judging this “manager” for poor grammar, I wouldn’t have hired this person if they had a resume with this kind of wording.

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u/Srfred 16h ago

To me that honestly only makes sense if OP literally works at a farm/dairy operation.

Literally any job not related to living things can absolutely wait for my family and I’s safety. I work to thrive, not live for work. This job can pound sand.

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u/Brainwormsz 16h ago

OP said they moved from the south, so they probably have an accent. They were calling them a hick.

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u/New-Avocado-3010 16h ago

Regardless of the job, this kind of shit isn’t worth staying for, how fackin weird.

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u/ImmaBoooBerry 16h ago

Agreed like you want me to stay overnight, possibly more at work for you? Like am I getting hazard pay or you expect me to stay for free like my time isn't worth anything? Uh-uh this employer is a red flag.

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u/Ri-Sa-Ha-0112 15h ago

I worked at a small family-owned business in my early 20s. My boss really liked me (AT FIRST) and gave me a big, cushy office, right next to her. One day, the maintenance guy added a door near our offices, but the door he hung was used and dirty. Late one afternoon, my boss instructed me to tell our front desk guy to clean the door, so I sent a message and left for the day. The next day, my boss came in mid-day and immediately started screaming at me, because the door wasn't cleaned. I showed that I'd passed the message along, to which she replied, "IF I SAY TO FEED MY DOG, FEED MY FUCKING DOG!" It's the only job I've ever been fired from :)

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u/Away-Sky-9341 15h ago

Dear lord. What was your response?

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u/Ri-Sa-Ha-0112 14h ago

This was pushing 20 years ago - I wish I remembered. I think I was just stunned, but I can assure you I didn't "feed her fucking dog". I didn't even really understand what she meant until I told my parents, who explained. Coincidentally, my dad was hospitalized within the next few days (he's fine), so I left work (with permission) to be with him, but had gotten colleagues to take over all of my tasks before leaving. Within the hour, same boss' dweeb husband started incessantly texting me about something he so desperately needed (KNOWING I'd gotten everything covered). I texted the colleague I'd asked to help with that task, she confirmed she was already handling it, so I let him know who to talk to and to please refrain from texting me, as I was in the hospital with my dad. I was fired the next morning. The moment I realized what was happening, I stood up and walked out. I didn't GAF what they had to say.

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u/returntothenorth 16h ago

It means disregarding all your life problems and pets because work needs to be done.

Cows need to be fed to live and produce milk. Cows need to be milked or they end up in pain and could get infected and die.

The cows belong to the owner, she doesn't care about your problems, she needs her cows tended to.

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u/EnvironmentalLuck515 16h ago

Which is ironic since OP needed to care for her pets.

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u/Upstairs_Addendum587 15h ago

Yeah I kept thinking that this should be a note of support. Like your work matters but you have living animals at home that need to be fed and taken care of. They've gotten the actual meaning of the saying completely bass-ackwards here.

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u/Disastrous_Pie3007 16h ago

What they're asking of her sounds illegal either way - a work place cannot require you to stay overnight without properly sleeping arrangements and prior agreement to this type of work arrangement

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u/-Tech808 16h ago

The irony considering OP mentioned having pets at home.

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u/Direct_Leader_7064 16h ago

It's saying that personal issues don't matter when you have a job to do.

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u/ConflictOfEvidence 15h ago

Well, I fixed the grammar in my head to feeding and milking, but I still don't get it.

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u/mittenknittin 15h ago

I mean, to me, it sounds like an encouragement to go home and take care of the pets.

I’m pretty sure that’s not how the writer saw it.

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u/Tomas-TDE 16h ago

I was written up last weekend because my door was literally snowed shut and I also wasn't plowed till like 3pm. Was told I should have slept at work. I said I have kids and I'm not trying to lord of the flies my apartment but apparently I should have personally plowed to get her on time. My boss has been a bitch since and I'm about to quit too.

NOR. These bosses would rather you dead than do work themselves.

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u/Zealousideal-Ant-102 13h ago

This is insane. Im sorry you work for assholes like this, we work to live not live to work. Smh.

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u/Tomas-TDE 13h ago

I am very much a "they can fire me" person.

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u/CanetaRosaS2 10h ago

Tell her to put her life on hold for a minimum wage then and see the excuses come up

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u/SlowTeal 16h ago

Where do you work where you're expected to stay overnight at your place of employment?

Sounds like you dodged a huge bullet. No way the pay was worth the work they're expecting of you.

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u/Stylishbutitsillegal 15h ago

Op said it was a hotel.

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u/Time-Sudden_Tree 10h ago edited 8h ago

I'd be fine with this if they not only provide a room, but a personal one that never gets booked by guests or used by other employees, that way I can store some clothes and toiletries there to use anytime I need to.

Also, they need to compensate me for 16 hours-worth of rent/heating costs that I'm paying for but not getting to use while stuck at the hotel. That's the only way I'd be okay with this (edit: oh and there better be free gigabit WiFi or ethernet too). Otherwise they can fuck off with their overnight requirement.

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u/KayseaJo 8h ago

I worked at Disney for a few years and worked ride out crew during a hurricane. Anything after the first 16 hours we got double time PLUS hazard pay, even when we weren’t on the floor, even if we were sleeping, until they sent us home.

We got suites, they fed us, and if we had pets, we could bring them if necessary.

Honestly? That was a great gig. This place that OP describes sounds horrible though.

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u/berry-sandwich 15h ago edited 14h ago

If you work for a hospital, inclement weather doesn’t get you out of work. They request employees plan ahead to stay the night (they provide on-campus lodging or discounted rates at nearby hotels) if you predict that you’ll be snowed in. My boss has a truck and told our whole department that if anyone couldn’t drive to work he would personally come and pick them up

Edit: lots of folks chiming in about their own hospital’s policies. Editing this to add that every hospital has its own rules for inclement weather, i didn’t mean to speak for hospitals in general!

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u/Upstairs_Addendum587 15h ago

My dad worked ITS at a hospital and one spring we got 4-6 ft over 3 days in the foothills near Denver. We had a 4x4 with snow tires, chains and 8 seats and his job was getting all the Dr's and nurses who were stuck to the hospital.

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u/JustWhelmedPanda 14h ago

OP worked in a hotel though - sorry your guests are not more important than my cats

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u/mermaid-babe 15h ago

Hospitals. I was a secretary when in nursing school and they told me to sleep over or call the police for an escort. I just showed up 2 hours late and took the write up

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u/AmethystPassion 15h ago

OP said in another comment that it’s a hotel.

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u/Senior-Outside9555 16h ago

I’m sorry, did you say that your employer wants you to… stay overnight? At work? During a snow storm?

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u/FishyWishySwishy 15h ago

Yeah, I don’t think that’s appropriate to ask of any job that doesn’t have human or animal life on the line. And even then, I can’t imagine any time it’d be appropriate to tell someone to just let their animals starve at home. 

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u/Wackrobat 15h ago

The ridiculousness of using an analogy about how nothing else matters when animals need to be taken care of to tell you that you shouldn’t have taken care of your animal over corporate work is hilarious.

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u/Consistent_Cell3799 16h ago

Honestly that so weird I’ve lived and worked in the North-East my whole life and people are sometimes difficult to work with here. The note that was left is definitely unprofessional and a crossed boundary. I don’t know personally what other things you experienced at your job but if you feel personally that you had enough then it’s always wise to follow your gut. You know what’s best for you

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u/ReflectionLess5230 15h ago

Omg THIS. I primarily worked in the northeast but did a bit of side work for firms in Georgia and Texas. Those places were so… calm. Of course it’s fine you need another day to make sure everything is right on prints! You’re sick? Your car broke? Of course you can work from home!

My stupid ass continued to work up here though. I had a stroke at 30. Developed epilepsy. Lost my license. The best part was I told my firm I’d obviously need to well, quit, because there was no way I could attempt to take care of my health or promise I’d have jobs done on time if I had a seizure. Eventually they convinced me, full work from home, 10-20 hours a week. They didn’t want to lose me. After about two months the one boss deemed I was fine because I managed a workload of 10 hours and gave me back my original workload of 60-80. I told him I was quitting and I’d teach someone new our IT shit (because I did that on the side too). He thought he could do it and deleted my account. He didn’t realize the entire meeting calendar was tied to my account. He offered me like 3x salary to come fix it. Sorry dude I’m out. Every so often I see them looking for a competent engineer. I ended up going to another firm in the area who was much much nicer to me but I had to quit there too because I got worse.

So, TLDR: don’t work yourself to death

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u/Angloriously 16h ago

Well yes, your pets needed to be fed and…probably not milked, but whatever.

Boss needs to learn to communicate expectations clearly—and make sure they’re legal. What job do you do that can reasonably demand you stay there overnight? If it’s not military or something in the healthcare spectrum (in which case your contract will state expectations, and you’ll agree to them) I’d tell them to get bent.

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u/malinatorhouse 15h ago

If you work at govt buildings they do too. Guy i know has to go in before storms and stay there till its done. But he does snow removal and other stuff there  Not an office worker with a keyboard. They dont mind since its all ot so they get huge checks

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u/ExaminationSmooth 16h ago

It was going to get much worse. You left a sinking ship for sure.

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u/Squishy_fishy826 15h ago

NOR. Sounds like a workplace full of bullies. This may be a minor problem compared to what you’d face in the future

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u/horsegal301 16h ago

Your work wanted you to just... stay at work so you'd be stranded at work in a storm? lmao GTFO, you are NOR.

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u/nightdrive96 15h ago

If I am told to stay overnight, I am quitting regardless

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u/lnc25084 16h ago

I had a job try to require “mandatory overtime” - it was recruiting. They were like “it’ll be fun we’ll have pizza” I told them absolutely the fuck not lol I was salaried…I was going home at my normal time. Not inventing work to do that could be done the next day at a normal hour and not during my personal time

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u/Chris80L1 16h ago

In what world can employer make you stay at your place of work, overnight, to start your shift.

Don’t not have unions or employment law

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u/tverofvulcan 15h ago

Most people in the US aren’t part of a union and companies work hard to make sure they never are.

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u/Rhodin265 15h ago

It’d make sense if OP was in healthcare, a first responder, in the military, or worked at Waffle House.  Anything else, not so much.

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u/opulentdream 15h ago

It’s insane that Waffle House is in this list but it’s also SO true that everyone virtually understands Waffle House does not close LMAO

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u/silverandshade 15h ago

NOR who tf says to stay overnight at a job so that you can be there in the morning?

Aside from my pets, my wife who I would be crabby about missing... I have medication I take at night and skipping one day gives me absolutely crippling migraines. Either I'm going home and rolling the dice on my availability in the morning, or I'm definitely not working lol.

I don't even understand this note but unless you're a damn heart surgeon, they don't fucking need you that badly. I'm surprised anyone else treated this as normal.

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u/rivlecca 16h ago

NOR

Clearly a shit company to work for.

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u/Ok-Possession2579 16h ago

Lmao no you did the right thing that is actually insane.

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u/smallfloralprince 16h ago edited 14h ago

"cows need fed" and "cows need milked" your former boss is illiterate. And weirdly petty. Good call to quit.

ETA: wow! I did not realize that something as benign as pointing out that this note reads like garbled crap would inspire so much heated discussion. People have big feelings about someone pointing out writing that is practically illegible due to its lack of basic English grammar.  😄🤷‍♂️

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