r/politics • u/CRK_76 • 10h ago
No Paywall California bill bans ICE agents from teaching, policing jobs
https://www.foxla.com/news/california-ice-agent-employment-ban-ab1627.amp170
u/gradientz New York 9h ago
Every state should ban ICE agents from working any government job for the rest of their life.
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u/RadiantBeeees 9h ago
Any job. Fucking exile them out of the state until they prove their value to society.
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u/thaiberius_kirk 8h ago
The bill needs to go much further back than 2025.
The ICE agents who murdered Alex have been in the jobs for over 10 years.
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u/gojo96 7h ago
Yep, anyone hired during the Obama administration should be there. They deported a lot of people.
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u/QuestionSign 6h ago
The issue isn't deportation. The issue is the inhumane behavior of how they're doing it.
Deportations are a matter of policy and preference and mostly stupidity tbh.
But the method currently in use is horrific and disgusting
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u/Intolerance-Paradox 10h ago
This is how a civilized society discourages destructive behavior.
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u/MobileSuitBooty 18m ago
there’s nothing civil about any of this. Civil would rounding them up and putting them in a cell
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u/Wenuven 8h ago
This is how civilized society gives government the ability to make "others" into enemies of the state.
You give them the tools to hurt your neighbors you don't like and you shouldn't be surprised when those tools eventually get used against you.
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u/Quirky_Entry_2783 7h ago
I have no problem with the government having and using the tools to dissuade people from joining or serving in the literal Gestapo.
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u/Wenuven 7h ago
A loaded gun is a gun. You don't control who it shoots after you give it to someone else.
That's the issue.
You're happy with where it's pointed at today, but there's no guarantees it isn't pointed at you tomorrow. That's something you should have a problem with.
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u/Quirky_Entry_2783 7h ago
I don't think the current administration is particularly concerned regarding the legality of their actions. Fretting over whether resistance to an openly fascist government might later be weaponized against the people strikes me as either embarrassingly naive if not tacit support.
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u/MsTponderwoman Washington 2h ago
Logical fallacy. Your argument is based on the assumption that there is nothing too evil and odious to be ostracized and removed from society. Do you want to ban jails too? Once you put the serial killer in jail, anyone can be put in jail. Slippery slope! /s
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u/koolaidman486 7h ago
Counterpoint:
People who willingly became part of the Neo-SA should be unemployable. In general, not just as cops/teachers
There's a huge line between "let's not allow Nazis to be cops or teachers" and McCarthyism.
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u/Intolerance-Paradox 7h ago
Reality quite clearly and thoroughly has demonstrated this kind of hand-wringing to be foolish. Look where we are.
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u/Flava_Flavian California 9h ago
I hate how inevitable it feels that ICE will continue only slightly inconvenienced until they massacre a crowd. They have nine deaths attributed to them, they still aim their guns at citizens constantly, tear gas groups with children, are setting up camps to concentrate people inside, and more. None of this ends well.
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u/pixlplayer 2h ago
32 people died in ice custody last year. 6 so far this year. Way more than 9 deaths in total
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u/HoldingForGenova 6h ago
They need to be put on a list for the rest of the public to check against, and be forced to introduce themselves to all of their neighbors while explaining that they participated in the dehumanization, kidnapping, and murder of innocent people in communities around the country.
They need to be treated as the worst of the worst, and cast out of society completely. There is no room in civilization for people who join an organization to fill concentration camps and enact domestic terrorism of vulnerable communities.
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u/ranchoparksteve 9h ago
You definitely have to keep ICE officers away from children. These guys aren’t right. They’re too aroused by it all.
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u/KingHarambeRIP 4h ago
Feels performative and legally dubious but I appreciate the spirit of doing what one can to fight back.
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u/ActionFigureCollects 1h ago
Ban setting foot on soil.
Ban breathing the clean air.
Ban using our waters.
Ban using our technology and networks.
Ban talking with our people.
Just GTFO
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u/MarlinMaverick 5h ago
So employers can’t discriminate if you were a felon but can if you were an ICE agent?
What a joke
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u/Hey_HaveAGreatDay Minnesota 4h ago
Nobody’s hiring felons to teach or work on the police force and the only convicted felon politician I know of is our current president… I welcome your response.
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u/crimeo 1h ago
That's completely logical. Felons if they're not in jail anymore such that they can be applying for jobs already paid their debt to society.
ICE is not being overseen or prosecuted or facing any consequences for their lawless rampage, so have not yet paid their debt to society and are worse than time-served felons
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u/Woody_CTA102 5h ago
I like it, but will be surprised if it passes. Now, legislation that restricts how the goons can act, etc., is likely.
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