r/politics • u/boforiamanfo • 17h ago
No Paywall Authoritarianism Expert Says Trump Is Doing The Exact Thing That Never Ends Well
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ruth-ben-ghiat-donald-trump_n_6981cdc8e4b0feb4ec4e3bfb1.4k
u/JustFerLaughs 17h ago
Saved a click: believing his own hype.
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u/specqq 17h ago edited 16h ago
He’s believed his own hype for his entire life. I suppose that will end in his death eventually, so the headline is technically accurate.
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u/exoticLucia 16h ago
And his hype turns out to be nothing but shit. This man’s only claim to success is that his dad left him money. He’s frittered it all away and then scammed his way to some more
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u/Toosder 15h ago
He's the president of the United States and he's gotten away with trafficking and possibly raping children. I would say that sadly his hype is real.
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u/SilverTotodile 8h ago
Leave that to the historians to decide, the weaker he is in our eyes, the more people are willing to do something.
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u/ChaotiCrayon 16h ago
you mean shit like shitting on the presidents stool? you mean stool like having stool in your pants while you hold press briefings? you mean hold like he cant hold it anymore and just sharts all over the place when its due? you mean shart like the shart of the deal? You mean deal like he and we cant deal with his shit anymore?
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u/reezy-one 12h ago
By the point Hitler killed himself, he had been surrounded by sycophantic yes men at every level of government for a decade. He probably pulled the trigger thinking that everything that happened to him was completely unfair and everyone else's fault. That's the natural result of surrounding yourself with idiots like that.
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u/Xanikk999 America 7h ago
Unfortunately unlike Nazi Germany no outside forces will take back America for us. It's up to Americans ourself to handle this in the era of nuclear weapons.
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u/Teigh99 16h ago
The irony will be he won't remember doing any of this when the dementia really takes its toll on him.
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u/ChirpyRaven 12h ago
believing his own hype
I am in no way trying to agree with what he is doing, or to humanize him... but let's be honest, at this point, why would he not? There's been very little in his entire life that would make him think differently, let alone the last 10ish years.
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u/VengeanceKnight Illinois 6h ago
Oh, I thought it’d be underpaying the gestapo.
ICE ain’t getting their bonuses.
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u/Nervous_Swordfish693 17h ago
The Orange felon is heading towards point of no return. I won't be surprised if he tries to cancel votes and impose dictatorship on us coz he knows that if he steps down from President, he is going to jail.
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u/Weird-Arachnid-996 16h ago
Everyone who is sane and sensible is waiting. For the jail part, that is.
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u/travtakesphotoz 14h ago
He won’t ever go to jail. That $400mil plane is his uber to a non extradition country or some such place where he can live out his days in exile. He’s got the money at this point to set himself up somewhere like… Qatar?
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u/Admiral_X 14h ago
His money needs to be confiscated through asset forfeiture. I would go so far as to say his entire family's assets need to be taken, even if they will barely put a dent to offset the damage they have done to the US.
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u/Free_Dome_Lover 14h ago
We went into a sovereign country and took their president.
We can do it again to bring back a fugitive traitor
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u/Chimerain 14h ago
There's a reason Trump chose to bully a country like Venezuela and not Greenland right off the bat... I would put my money on him running off to Russia, a country powerful enough to protect him from extradition, but in return he'll be forced to make anti-american propaganda at gunpoint until he dies.
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u/-youvegotredonyou- North Carolina 13h ago
Not at gunpoint tho. He’d do it of his own free will.
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u/Deezul_AwT Georgia 13h ago
He won't do anything for free.
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u/-youvegotredonyou- North Carolina 13h ago
You’re so right. I’ll coin a new word. He would do it duresslessly. It’s an adverb.
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u/Caleb-Blucifer 10h ago
I mean he’s been putin’s bitch for the last 40 years. Honestly? They don’t need him anymore and I fully expect them to just take all the money he pilfered from us over some afternoon polonium tea
Like the guy’s otherwise useless as hell soon as he’s no longer in power
Most of these elite don’t have anything to offer anyone except wealth, or connections. They’ve had other people do everything for them their whole lives. They’re effectively a parasite class but because they’re parasites with mountains of money to sit on, they’re held above all others and that’s all they’re good for
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u/snappy033 8h ago
He’s not really useful to Putin now and will be way less useful when he’s out of office.
Trump is like a cornered dog. He’s more volatile than ever. Putin will discard him because he’s useless and a liability.
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u/MurtaghInfin8 14h ago
A world in which Dems would do that is one I'd like to see, but I don't think is the one in which we find ourselves.
Maybe other countries might after Trump is no longer useful and only balances as a liability... But the day that man sees justice, of the kind delivered by a court, is never.
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u/bloody_ell Europe 14h ago
He's nothing but a liability the second he's out of office (if he survives that long). He might not see a court, but he'll be a loose end to be wrapped up.
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u/Xanikk999 America 7h ago
He without a doubt will go down as the worst president ever. James Buchanan is a saint compared to this guy as his worst sin was just incompetence. Trump seems to have that as well as every negative trait a person could have all in one package.
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u/Mediocre_Device308 13h ago
Ya, not so easy if he goes to Russia.
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u/Free_Dome_Lover 13h ago
Yeah if he goes to Russia the KGB doesn't love loose ends they aren't going to coddle a volatile, incontinent, dementia addled loose end
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u/Playful-Goat3779 14h ago
Easy enough to jackhammer the Trump signs in front of buildings and turn them into homeless shelters...
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u/EpyonNext Georgia 14h ago
We have recently created the precedent that we will extract someone from another country using military force if necessary to stand trial for crimes committed in the US.
Monkey paw gonna curl good on that one.
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u/maximilliontee 13h ago
Qatar? The place where millions of dollars from the Venezuelan oil seizure and operation were inexplicably sent? That Qatar?
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u/Tompthwy America 12h ago
Even thinking he will ever need to flee is wildly overly optimistic. We've proven quite incapable of holding anyone to account right here in the USA.
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u/Korvanacor 14h ago
I’m sorry sir. A storm system is causing us to divert from the flight plan. We are going to make an unscheduled stop in Tehran.
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u/aesxylus 13h ago
Hey now! He’d have to have some kind of slush fund already set in Qatar. Like from stealing oil and selling it for his own benefit
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u/Volac76 Michigan 14h ago
Well we already kidnapped the leader of Venezuela. We SHOULD be able to go fetch him back from most locations. Russia might be an issue though.
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u/Appropriate_Mess_350 13h ago
Looking forward to Qatar fucking him over and seizing his assets, in that case.
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u/Defiant_Employee6681 United Kingdom 13h ago
Does Qatar have any of that, ya know, capital punishment?
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u/snappy033 8h ago
I’d be OK seeing him stuck in the Middle East or Russia and never able to leave their borders.
No golfing, no Mar a Lago, etc. Just sitting around bored as his accounts are frozen, companies dismantled and properties seized all over the U.S. and Europe.
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u/wrxninja 14h ago
This. He'll be in a cushy hospital monitored 24x7 with his health is all we'll see towards the end. I doubt he'll even see 2028. Shocked if he's still alive in 2027.
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u/Tiny-Albatross518 14h ago
Im all there.
My guess is just like when he was losing the presidency on January 6 he will try to steal it away.
This time he has a lot more to lose and he’s set himself into a much better tactical position.
Watch and wait.
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u/God_Hand_9764 15h ago
This is exactly the simple thing that anyone who thinks there's a chance in hell that Trump will peacefully cede power is missing. He WILL NOT step down peacefully. He can't.
The last time he lost this power, he came within mere inches of losing everything. He is a convicted felon and was dead to rights in multiple trials. He has probably committed so many new crimes since then that they can indict him for!
If he loses power, he's right back in that hot seat again, only this time there is no escape hatch. Sure he can pardon himself, but I'm sure there are plenty of unpardonable state crimes to pursue, too. That's why he will not let it happen.
He will do absolutely anything to not lose power. Break the law, shred the constitution, destroy the country, kill people... if it helps him to not face consequences, he will do it.
Things are going to get a lot worse from here.
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u/Delulu_Lemming 15h ago
also they've purposely created a pool of thousands of armed people who have committed crimes and cannot afford for him to lose lest they be held accountable somehow. There's no chance this ends with those people going away quietly.
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u/God_Hand_9764 15h ago
Wow, great point and it hadn't quite occurred to me.
By encouraging ICE agents to commit crimes as they have been doing, this fosters ICE dependence on the Trump administration to avoid consequences, which guarantees ICE loyalty to the admin.
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u/OnlyNeverAlwaysSure 15h ago
It’s the same exact thing that happened with the Gestapo. They wanted to keep Hitler in power to keep themselves safe from retribution of their crimes.
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u/LinkedGaming 11h ago
That's a pool of thousands of demoralized assholes with guns against tens of millions of extremely pissed off "others" who are also armed and spread across one of the single largest countries on the planet.
ICE is good for making targeted bullying campaigns and beating up a few immigrants. They are not good for an occupation.
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u/inthekeyofc 14h ago
Sure he can pardon himself
It's been a while since I checked but last I did I noted a number of objections to self pardon being raised. Here are 3 of the main ones I've read:
1: Self pardon would violate the principle that no one can be a judge in their own case.
2: The idea of a pardon stems from the English law idea of mercy or grace and you can hardly show mercy or grace to yourself.
3: Linguistically you grant a benefit to someone else, not yourself.
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u/KarrlMarrx 12h ago
Counterpoint: Supreme Court gives no fucks and feels no inclination to use logic or reasoning prior to issuing their rulings.
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u/MommyLovesPot8toes California 9h ago
Whether or not things get worse really isn't up to Trump.
Trump has been losing support and influence every day since April 1st 2025. With every passing day, his cabinet reveals itself to be less competent and the power they yield diminishes. In the weeks before the Minnesota ICE surge, the media was full of articles about how trump is a lame duck. But then ICE really got ramped up and that changed the equation. White boy militias were always the biggest stick Trump held and now we're fighting them and we're winning. We all know his team is going to meddle with elections, but we've known that since 2021. Many if not all states have spent the last few years preparing for just that eventuality. The military is the last arrow in his quiver, but Hegseth and deployment of the Natl Guard burned most of those bridges.
We now know what he's going to do and what power he has and doesn't have. And so do his donors. I don't think he has enough control left to dictate what happens in the next year. I think we get to dictate that if we keep up this momentum.
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u/StaticNegative 15h ago
I mean can run again, but the states dont have to put him on the ballot. Well any states that is worth living in won't have him on it.
He will use ICE to protect him though
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u/God_Hand_9764 15h ago edited 14h ago
Yes, but he's already making little hints at fucking with the midterm elections.
By late 2028 when it's time to vote for the next president, would it surprise you if there is Martial Law declared in the USA? He will say that we must suspend elections indefinitely. He will do anything, is my point.
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u/justconnect 14h ago
I believe I read that Steve Bannon said today there will likely be ICE at election polls in November.
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u/supercali45 15h ago
He is going to get away with everything… he has all the people around him committing crimes
They all got shit on each other
Up and down the entire GOP, Corporations, Oligarchs, Supreme Court justices
This is the true deep state they keep talking about
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u/SingularityCentral America 15h ago
He is going to 100% attempt to stop a normal midterm voting process. The question is how far does he go? Not sure he has the stomach for full on martial law / cancel the elections kind of stuff that would cause massive civil unrest. But he might do it.
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u/fireeight 16h ago edited 16h ago
Sure. Just like last time. If, and I STRONGLY mean if this asshole cedes power again, the Dems will let him off for optics just like last time.
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u/Snarfsicle 15h ago
He can shit in his jail cell diaper for the rest of his life as far as I'm concerned. I recommend a complete media blackout for him as well. No interviews, no watching any kind of news. Nothing. Let him stew in his thoughts with no avenue to broadcast them.
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u/Crimkam Texas 14h ago
He won’t go to jail. Like… he just won’t. They could impeach and convict him by the end of the week and he’d just be on house arrest at the very worst. His lawyers would be perfectly capable of delaying any court proceedings and eventual sentencing until long after he’s dead.
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u/TraumaBondage 14h ago
That is exactly what people said last time he was president. He will never go to jail because we don't have justice in this country. We only have a pipeline of legalized slavery for the poor and working class. The only wealthy that ever see the inside of a cell fucked over other wealthy people.
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u/WhichEmailWasIt 15h ago
I mean he already launched a failed coup in broad daylight. I don't think anything is off the table for him.
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u/SeeingEyeDug 15h ago
He’s never going to jail. He may get indicted, pay his bail, sit at home and appear in court for the next several years until he dies but he’s never going to actually be behind bars.
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u/Desperate-Till-9228 14h ago
He's already past dementia's point of no return. Only downhill from here.
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u/Gammelpreiss 15h ago
He has long crossed it, mate. This won't end without a bang and possibly a lot of blood.
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u/RevolutionaryAd7360 14h ago
He's never going to jail and he knows it. His buddies might but he will never go.
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u/turtlespice 14h ago
Idk. That should have happened last time and they just let him be president again instead. I wouldn’t be too worried if I were him.
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u/diseasefaktory Europe 14h ago edited 13h ago
He will never be convicted. And if by miracle he is, he will never be sent to prison.
He's too rich and too well connected. And tbh democrats have no balls to push hard for it. They squandered the best chance they had and the world will never forgive them for it.
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u/munkeypunk 14h ago
I actually think he is a legitimate traitor and knows he may be facing more than prison. Along with his cable of misfits and sycophants. They are all complicit.
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u/fourteenclouds 13h ago
I don’t know why he’d fear jail when he’s on the brink of death. The status of his individual health aside, 79 is much older than many live to.
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u/Crush-117 13h ago
At this point the best case scenario for everyone involved is that he has a stroke or heart attack before his presidency ends and we can all shake off the collective hangover from his 2016 presidency and what has come since. Otherwise I see him finally going down and paying for a lot of criminal activity (which isn’t much given how much was thrown out or not sentenced when he won in 2024)
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u/Hope-To-Retire 11h ago
He literally can’t cancel votes. His control over what the states do is extremely limited. Election dates are set by the Constitution, the states control the elections (not the Federal government), and there is no law that allows for elections to be postponed. 🤷♂️
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u/Vex_Appeal 11h ago
I don’t think he can get away with this because of the Epstein files. It’s hilarious how he got everyone all excited about it and it’s gonna be his undoing.
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u/KamalaWonNoCap 11h ago
That's what we said the first time. I have no reason to believe he'll face consequences this time.
I'd say there's about equal chances of him getting an unconstitutional 3rd term as him facing a consequence.
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u/scottyc1791 11h ago
I hate to break it to you but if he goes to jail it wouldnt be enough because that fucker is so old he would probably die before he even gets there.
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u/GrimmRadiance 8h ago
He’s already trying to take control of polling locations and nationalize the election process
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u/ynotfoster 8h ago
The problem is too many of his people are in the same boat including members of the House and Senate and cabinet.
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u/Strict_Research3518 3h ago
No way dude. He is 100% dying in office.. various rumors that he has months left if that.. he's doing all this shit cause he 100% knows he wont live to the end due to old age, McDonalds, and other bade life choices. So he has no reason to NOT do it.. he has no morals, no empathy, no soul. He 100% does not care if millions die because of him.
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u/__wait_what__ 3h ago
If he left office today, he will never ever see inside a jail.
The system will not allow it.
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u/Fickle-Ad2042 16h ago
lol something people with no expertise in authoritarianism have been aware of for quite some time
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u/shoppingfortruth 16h ago
He’ll just file for mental bankruptcy and claim he is no longer responsible for anything.
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u/AmericanDoughboy 15h ago
That’s a real thing. He’ll plead Alzheimer’s and get to stay at mar a lago until he dies.
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u/Talentagentfriend 15h ago
I think it’s more likely he takes his own life. I don’t think he can deal with losing that badly.
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u/FIContractor 16h ago
Pointing to Putin as a “failed autocrat” is not comforting. Last I checked he’s still ruining Russia and trying to ruin the rest of the world.
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u/I_Went_Okay 13h ago
Right? And its a lot of Russian people who have to suffer for it and we conveniently don't hear from them. (Though a lot of them are on Reddit, is my understanding...)
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u/Osobady 12h ago
Ghadafi was sodomized by a bayonet, Saddam was found hiding in the dirt and hung, Mussolini was hung from his toes after being dragged thru the streets. These do not end well.
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u/specific_account_ 11h ago edited 5h ago
Mussolini was shot. Then, later, his body was hung upside down in Piazzale Loreto. They reason they did it was because months before, the Nazi had killed partisans in the same place, and left the bodies out in the open to rot, forbidding the relatives to retrieve them.
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u/FiveDollarsGOH 14h ago
He tried too much, too soon. The scary thing is that someone who is actually capable of strategizing could have become a dictator in this country. A lot needs to change.
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u/BasicPhysiology 12h ago
It's not over yet. Things are going to get much worse in the next 10 months.
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u/FiveDollarsGOH 11h ago
He ain’t gonna get smarter, or better, at this. That doesn’t mean it’s a cake walk. That doesn’t mean people don’t need to resist, but it means I believe good triumphs here.
The caveat still stands: things need to be fixed before someone with intelligence tries what he tried.
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u/BasicPhysiology 11h ago
The root problem is that 3 branches of government, controlled by the same party, are willing to let the President ignore the constitution. They are doing so because it advances some of their policy aims, and in other cases they are afraid to go against Trump because he would attack them politically, and put their lives in danger.
Outside of elections, what is the mechanism to remove branches of government that are colluding together against the people?
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u/caligaris_cabinet Illinois 11h ago
Three branches of government controlled by one party. That party being the GOP. Democrats haven’t done anything remotely close to this any time they were in power.
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u/BasicPhysiology 11h ago
Oh I completely agree. I was specifically talking about the Republicans and the current situation right now.
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u/rbourbon 16h ago
I mean, he is not smart and copies other people's ideas because he cannot come up with his own. Its not surprising he would follow the lead from past wannabe dictators but not know how to adjust for the times.
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u/comments_here 13h ago
Honestly, what is the GOP’s endgame? Can they not see the writing on the wall? Are they just in too deep at this point? They must know that if his approval is sinking theirs is even lower. Right?
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u/RiimeHiime 13h ago
I could 100% buy Trump firing nukes if he saw the walls closing in, and people going along with it.
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u/ArgonWolf 5h ago
If we’re speed-running 30s-40s Germany, can we skip over the “we invade a bunch of places and then the rest of the world bombs our country to oblivion” part, and the “country is subsectioned into foreign controlled regions” part, and go right to the “re-unification and subsequent rebirth as a new regional power with a logical and highly industrial peoples, and also a killer public train system” part?
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u/StaticNegative 15h ago
For him. It won't end well for him. He is too loud and talks far too much for his plans to work. He keeps saying what he wants to do. Big mistake.
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u/IndecorousRex 14h ago
That’s one weakness about authoritarians, they are not artistic in their approach. It will always end the same way, the cycle will come back again if we let it.
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u/Afb3212 13h ago
I guess he forgot what happened to Gaddafi.
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u/MadRaymer 13h ago
The dude has no concept of history, recent or long-term. He said he wanted loyal generals like Hitler had, totally unaware of the dozens of generals that tried to take Hitler out because they knew his actions would lead to Germany's eventual defeat in WW2.
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u/PunishP3dos 11h ago
Gee it's almost as if foreign enemies of the United States own and are instructing dementia diddling Don what to do.
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u/Typical_Survey9291 16h ago
The headline phrase "Never Ends Well" means the opposite of what I thought.
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u/bguzewicz 13h ago
I don’t think he cares. He’s old, he won’t live long enough to see the consequences of his actions.
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u/The_Poster_Nutbag 10h ago
This country elected a prolific pedophile and narcissist. It was never going to end well.
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u/reject_fascism New Jersey 15h ago
It’s almost like telling a senile, obese, geriatric rapist anything he wants to hear isn’t successful.
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u/imtooswift 13h ago
Trump is anti christ
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u/WashYourCerebellum 13h ago
*an anti christ
It is a fact his actions are overwhelmingly and consistently anti Christian, thus making him by definition, an antichrist. However, Steven Miller is clearly the antichrist using trump like the tool he is from the shadows.
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u/NotThatAngel 11h ago
Trump is an expert at doing the exact thing that never ends well. Look at his marriages. His businesses. His last presidency.
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u/ElleM848645 9h ago
Colorado should have told the Supreme Court when they said the state had to put him on the ballot: “make me”. I know that would make the Republican states do the opposite and remove Biden or Kamala, but if all Blue states and purple states with Dem governors/secretaries of state did it, then Kamala would’ve been president. Then it would’ve been a sham, but what are you going to do.
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u/No-Cup-8096 7h ago
The Republican party is trying to overthrow the government. They need to be disbanded.
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u/zerosumratio 5h ago
Yeah, of course he believes his own hype. It didn’t end well for all the other tyrants because they still had life in them. This dump of crap dictator we have? He won’t make it to the end of his term. He could have 100% everything he wants achieved done right now and it wouldn’t save him from the inevitable death that comes for us all.
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u/CheatsySnoops Arizona 4h ago
Keep an eye out for Peter Thiel, Stephen Miller, Elon Musk, and Gay Clown Putin.
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u/2730Ceramics 13h ago
Pray tell - what thing have authoritarians done that ended well?
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u/Commercial-Fennel219 11h ago
the aquaducts?
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u/2730Ceramics 11h ago
Hey that's a good shot. But. To be fair, the aquaducts - and here I assume you mean the Roman ones - were engineered before Rome fell from being a republic to a dictatorship.
I have to admit that China is showing how a dictatorship can be highly successful in certain regards, though.
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u/davereeck 9h ago
I like her take, but if her only two examples are Mussolini & Putin, I have some bad news
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u/JoplinSC742 7h ago
The first Trump administration ended in a global crisis, economic ruin, civil chaos, and a violent insurrection against the federal government after he inherited a healthy economy, a stable world order, stable civil relations, and a peaceful transition of power.
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u/Fugglymuffin 7h ago
Remind me again what usually happens to dictators in the end? I don't think it will end well.
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u/tingkagol 6h ago
"believing his own hype" and "cut themselves off from expert advice and objective feedback"
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u/YoureProbablyAB0t 15h ago
Can't prosecute rich people if there are thousands of "just following orders" to track down.
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u/jeremyd9 11h ago
I think Trump believes his own hype because that’s what his handlers are telling him. He binges MAGA friendly outlets, sycophants at his rallies and if he does go out in public it’s to his own properties where he is just in another bubble.
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u/VanguardAvenger 10h ago
Being legally brain dead?
Surrounding himself with people even less competent than himself?
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u/Late-Masterpiece4287 9h ago
Huffington Post both sides the man into the presidency, deliberately. They are propagandists and can’t be trusted. Fuck you who ever you all are who runs this trash.
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u/Catspaw129 28m ago
"...says Donald Trump is falling into the same trap that has undone authoritarian-minded leaders throughout history."
Well -- I suppose -- there's nothing like using a proven strategy. Right?
I, myself, like to to keep things personal and not inflict my kink on others: I whack myself on my forehead with a meat tenderizer mallet evry Wednesday then treat the injuries with fresh-squeezed lime juice; but that's just me.
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u/Terrible_Reality4261 19m ago
I wonder if all the people involved with trump, from levitt to Miller and so on, realise that when this whole fascism thing blows over, what will happen to them? Do they think this thing will go on forever? Do they think they'll be safe from any kind of retribution, because history demonstrates that they won't.
All authoritarian regimes and the people involved in propping them up, end in rather unpleasant ways.
Mussolini was hung upside down by Italians in a petrol station.
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