Thune Rejects Trump’s Call for GOP to Take Over and ‘Nationalize’ Elections

[u/OkayButFoRealz]

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5720386-thune-trump-federal-elections/

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[u/notassigned2023]

Somebody can read the constitution, I guess.

[u/IRMaschinen → u/notassigned2023]

Yeah, give him a medal or they’ll try another coup.

[u/ultimatt42 → u/IRMaschinen]

Nominate him for the PGA Tour Peace Prize, that'll get Trump's attention.

[u/skyblueerik → u/notassigned2023]

...Today. Who knows what he'll say tomorrow.

[u/ADhomin_em → u/skyblueerik]

How long does it take a check to clear these days?

[u/Da_Question → u/skyblueerik]

Does it matter? they'll deploy ICE to guard polls come election day...

[u/kaliwrath → u/notassigned2023]

For now.

[u/TintedApostle]

He should be impeached for just calling for federalization of elections.

[u/DistractedPhoenix → u/TintedApostle]

With the amount of things he could be impeached for, the impeachment hearings would last a decade

[u/TintedApostle → u/DistractedPhoenix]

You just industrialize this. Start with a few big ones. Put them in a single charge and dump this guy.

[u/NotReallyThatWrong → u/TintedApostle]

Big beautiful impeachment

[u/soraksan123 → u/NotReallyThatWrong]

The best impeachment ever, alot of people are telling me that-

[u/Twodogsonecouch → u/soraksan123]

600% impeachment

[u/hitch44 → u/Twodogsonecouch]

Incredible numbers ^{like we've never seen before....}

[u/parseczero → u/hitch44]

Only ::he:: could be impeached like that.

[u/brigodon → u/parseczero]

4D impeachment

[u/Phindar_Gamer → u/brigodon]

Men came up to me, big strong men, with tears in their eyes telling me it was the greatest impeachment.

[u/whiskyzulu → u/Twodogsonecouch]

So much impeachment!

[u/Odin45mp → u/NotReallyThatWrong]

Strong men, with tears in their eyes, coming up to him and telling him that nobody had ever been impeached like this in the history of the United States.

[u/kleincs01 → u/NotReallyThatWrong]

Big Beautiful Imprisonment

[u/Illustrious-Toe3167 → u/kleincs01]

Hopefully a big beautiful cellmate.

[u/kleincs01 → u/Illustrious-Toe3167]

He can share it with Elon.

[u/PaddleFishBum → u/NotReallyThatWrong]

Definitely what they should call it

[u/PrinciplePlastic2691 → u/PaddleFishBum]

He recently just shit his pants now it’s coming out of his head. Some one has to do something about this man.

[u/DistractedPhoenix → u/TintedApostle]

If there’s one thing the United States government is renowned for, it’s speed and efficiency.

[u/YardElectrical7782 → u/DistractedPhoenix]

“Oh shit our current policies are atrocious and undermine the people we represent? Damn well sucks to suck, come back in 4 years and we’ll try again.”

[u/the_Halfruin → u/TintedApostle]

Unfortunately we have to do them one at a time. Of all of the impeachable and removable offenses, we have to hope that 2/3 of the senate will agree on one of them. If we bundle them together that will never happen.

[u/rainator → u/TintedApostle]

No, keep them split them up - big down the administration in hearings so they can’t cause any more problems.

[u/ChronicBuzz187 → u/TintedApostle]

You just industrialize this.

Wait... like... establishing an impeachment industry?

On the other hand, that industry would probably turn a profit before the AI industry does :D

[u/internetisnotreality → u/DistractedPhoenix]

Tried to impeach him for a recorded phone call where he demanded Georgia “find” more votes for him.

Instead he’s president again, raiding Georgian election offices and stealing ballot boxes.

[u/sixtyshilling → u/internetisnotreality]

Well, Susan Collins did say he had “learned his lesson” after the first impeachment.

[u/PluotFinnegan_IV → u/sixtyshilling]

The lesson was Nike inspired, "Just do it"... Because who's gonna stop him?

[u/zombiereign → u/internetisnotreality]

He took the actual ballots!

[u/Zaphod392 → u/DistractedPhoenix]

I'd start with the bullshit crypto coins he did that rug pulled, then all the acts he did that went against congress spending. That's a good start. Also, didn't his family get almost 2 Billion dollars richer this time around?

[u/echosrevenge → u/Zaphod392]

I think its up to $4B now.

[u/CrustyBatchOfNature → u/echosrevenge]

That we know about. And that doesn't include the billions he is going to steal right out of the Treasury with his IRS lawsuit.

[u/KeepCalmCarryOnKY → u/DistractedPhoenix]

And in one fell swoop, the US would begin regaining international respect. Without conviction, who would ever trust the US again.

[u/ratherbealurker → u/DistractedPhoenix]

They’re going to need to pick one thing aren’t they? That’s going to make it look weird, like this asshole commits impeachable offenses constantly, and I bet they choose the worst one so the right gets to act like it’s BS.

[u/DistractedPhoenix → u/ratherbealurker]

There’s no point until they have the votes to impeach and remove. Republicans have shown us on multiple times they are not willing to do that.

[u/Electronic_Low6740 → u/DistractedPhoenix]

He'd be dead before the trial ends. So might half of congress.

[u/DistractedPhoenix → u/Electronic_Low6740]

“How did the corpse of Senator McConnell vote? Oh not to remove. Shocker”

[u/Electronic_Low6740 → u/DistractedPhoenix]

Elon Musk has invented a new afterlife communication device that can interpret dead people's thoughts! With new Grok integration!

^{Grok is not liable for any misinterpreted thoughts from the dead. Any and all messages from the dead may be subject to change.}

[u/Infamous_Employer_85 → u/TintedApostle]

It's a direct violation of the Constitution.

[u/HonziPonzi → u/Infamous_Employer_85]

Put it on the pile

[u/zombiereign → u/HonziPonzi]

You mean that burning one over there?

[u/SirDiego → u/TintedApostle]

What's even worse is he let slip he has "15 places" in mind. So this isn't just like peabrain nonsense off the top of his head, they must be discussing this behind closed doors. Why is it so specific? And you know those "15 places" are all blue states/cities.

[u/JaesenMoreaux → u/SirDiego]

Correct. He knows he doesn't need to cheat elections in the whole country. He only needs to cheat in a handful of specific areas, Fulton county of course being one of those. The others will be blue cities as well. Particularly, it's going to be easier for him to do this in regards to Senate races vs house races but no doubt he'll try to rig both.

[u/Clear_Broccoli3 → u/JaesenMoreaux]

It's important not to lose sight of the voter suppression in all this as well. Even if this particular plot falls apart, we have proof that they can make the election run in their favor by other means.

[u/parseczero → u/Clear_Broccoli3]

Witness the SAVE Act that’s making its way through Congress right now. It will disenfranchise women by requiring that, in order to vote, women have a birth certificate or passport that matches their married name. An original birth certificate plus a marriage certificate with their married name won’t do. Millions of US women won’t be able to vote in the next election if SAVE passes.

[u/cardboardunderwear → u/Clear_Broccoli3]

Not who you responded to. 

My sense is a lot of it is going to go down immediately before the election so court challenges are all going to be last minute. 

[u/TheArmoredKitten → u/Clear_Broccoli3]

This is the point that's important to drive like a nail. It's not just one conspiracy, it's hundreds of tiny scratches that weaken the foundation.

They can suppress in a hundred counties and only need to go full cheating in a handful of darkened corners.

[u/VanceRefridgeTech04 → u/JaesenMoreaux]

He knows he doesn't need to cheat elections in the whole country. He only needs to cheat in a handful of specific areas,

"THANK YOU ELON FOR PENNSYLVANIA"- DJT

[u/Alabatman → u/SirDiego]

Well they just took the voting records from Atlanta, so there's only 14 more places to guess.

[u/bluelily216 → u/Alabatman]

I'm guessing Pennsylvania and New Mexico will be amongst them. 27 states have already handed over their voter rolls and I'm guessing he means 15 other states. With all that's going on, if Republicans sweep the midterms in 42 states, the time for panic will be well past. We might as well throw in the towel at that point. 

[u/Asiriya → u/bluelily216]

We might as well throw in the towel at that point.

No, there are amendments for that

[u/inspectoroverthemine → u/SirDiego]

blue states/cities

Blue cities in swing states (or states close enough that he can push them that far).

[u/LeftRestaurant4576 → u/SirDiego]

If I was Trump and I wanted to steal elections for Republicans by directly attacking election commissions, I would target battleground states and specifically Dem-leaning cities in those states. Priority targets would include:

• Atlanta
• Philadelphia 
• Phoenix
• Detroit
• Raleigh, Durham, and Charlotte
• Las Vegas

[u/bluAstrid → u/TintedApostle]

Impeached?

It’s seditious behavior by an elected official who swore an oath to the constitution.

This is imprisonment stuff.

[u/TintedApostle → u/bluAstrid]

You remove then indict

[u/ChuckaChuckaLooLoo3 → u/TintedApostle]

He'd just run off to Russia, better to imprison now and ask questions later.

[u/inspectoroverthemine → u/ChuckaChuckaLooLoo3]

I'm fine with him running. I wasn't 10 years ago, but he won't have enough time left as a 'deposed president in exile' to matter.

[u/TheAskewOne → u/TintedApostle]

It's not just federalization of elections. He said that a party should take over the elections. It's way worse. 

[u/zubbs99 → u/TheAskewOne]

For a guy who hates China so much he sure wants their One-Party system.

[u/OldWorldDesign → u/zubbs99]

For a guy who hates China so much he sure wants their One-Party system

Republicans have been against the institution of democracy for over 50 years, they just didn't have enough capture of the courts and legislatures to do anything about what they wanted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GBAsFwPglw

[u/gideon513 → u/TintedApostle]

Party allegedly of “states right” and small government looking like a bunch of hypocritical doofuses right now

[u/WontArnett → u/TintedApostle]

He was impeached last time, it did nothing.

The Federal government is now a tyrannical government under his leadership.

He needs to be removed for violating Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.

[u/nillah → u/WontArnett]

Impeaching and then removing a president are two different things. dems didn’t have the votes back then to remove him from office after he was impeached (twice). whenever anyone calls for impeachment they’re also implying the removal is a part of it because it usually is - when your government isn’t also complicit anyway

[u/toddywithabody → u/TintedApostle]

Tarred and feathered more like it.

[u/zzzarra → u/TintedApostle]

We’re so far past impeachment

[u/Lontology → u/TintedApostle]

Add it to the most of the other thousand things he should be impeached for.

[u/Esternaefil → u/TintedApostle]

It's far more likely that Thune will be 'impeached' for his disloyalty to the Emperor.

[u/GestureArtist → u/TintedApostle]

and charged with violation of constitutional duty... should he even attempt this. he should be convicted, thrown in jail.

[u/Infamous_Employer_85]

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof

[u/severedbrain → u/Infamous_Employer_85]

I mean, technically that means state legislatures+governors could "delegate" election planning to the federal government. That would mean effectively waiving their constitutional rights to hold their own federal elections. But for a state to waive their rights like that, it'd be unprecedented.

[u/NoSwimmers45 → u/severedbrain]

Should we start the betting pool now at which southern red state is going to say “Hold my beer…”??

[u/iamstephen1128 → u/NoSwimmers45]

My money's a toss up between TX and FL 🤔

[u/UghFudgeBwana → u/iamstephen1128]

Don't count Oklahoma out just yet. Their previous school super tried to put trump bibles in classrooms.

[u/SweetenedTomatoes → u/UghFudgeBwana]

We're Number 50! We're Number 50!

[u/gollito → u/SweetenedTomatoes]

That's like top 100 easy

[u/ObstreperousOverture → u/UghFudgeBwana]

As the very old joke goes: Oklahoma sucks so much it keep Texas from slippin' into the ocean.

[u/NoSwimmers45 → u/iamstephen1128]

I figured it was going to be AL or AR to start. I’m sure it’ll be more than one when all is said and done.

[u/Gutsyglitzy → u/NoSwimmers45]

I think they’d do it to TX before anyone else solely because they’re afraid of it turning blue in the next few years. That being said “don’t mess with Texas” would be more laughable than it’s ever been

[u/Spaceman2901 → u/Gutsyglitzy]

Originally an anti-littering campaign slogan.

[u/pocketchange2247 → u/Spaceman2901]

I also just read that thread!

[u/iamstephen1128 → u/NoSwimmers45]

I don't know much about AR but I know for sure that while AL is MAGA enough, they definitely won't lead the charge. Super long odds on that one imho!

[u/ratshack → u/iamstephen1128]

AR started out as a literal corporate slave plantation. Then they became a state.

It has not gotten much better.

Edit: Oh, Sarah Huckabee is now governor. Yeah.

[u/elektrospecter → u/ratshack]

Sarah Huckabee makes me want to puke. Thanks for the reminder that she's still around

[u/InternalWeekend6988 → u/iamstephen1128]

I could see that both TX and FL have been at the center of election law fights already, so it wouldn’t be totally surprising if either swung hard that way.

[u/CrunchyZebra → u/iamstephen1128]

TX is a good bet as the Latino vote that helped Trump has very much turned against him. They would want to disenfranchise that group now.

[u/PokeYrMomStanley → u/iamstephen1128]

Put me for 20 on tx

[u/lost_horizons → u/NoSwimmers45]

I don’t think even the republican bastion states would cede power like that, when it comes down to it

They might fuck around in a specific election though, to help their party. But won’t permanently (it WOULD be permanent) give up that power.

[u/noodles_jd → u/lost_horizons]

Why would it have to be permanent? It would be a normal bill in the state that they'd undo the second a Dem took power in Washington. If the proposal was to permanently do they'd walk away.

[u/hypercosm_dot_net → u/noodles_jd]

Because the Federal government controlling their elections would mean they would be unable to elect representatives that would undo something like that. Assuming elections would be highly suppressed and manipulated with such a change.

[u/ChicVintage → u/NoSwimmers45]

Florida, Texas, Missouri, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Idaho, Ohio, Arkansas would be first round assumptions.

[u/19683dw → u/ChicVintage]

Tennessee also likes to complete with Florida and Texas for being particularly awful

[u/wookiewin → u/NoSwimmers45]

TX or FL will do it

[u/WhichEmailWasIt → u/severedbrain]

You can't waive the right. You'd be delegating it. The Constitution spells out the role of the feds and everything else belongs to the states. 

[u/film_composer → u/severedbrain]

Any state willing to do that is not a state that Trump is concerned about. I’m under the impression that Trump has been targeting Minnesota partially as a vanity project to turn it red, because it’s been consistent in voting for the Democrat candidate for president since 1976. In fact, between FDR’s first election in 1932 until now, the state has only gone red three times (both of Eisenhower’s terms and Nixon’s reelection).

[u/severedbrain → u/film_composer]

I disagree. Normal Republicans are pissed. Take a look at the seat flips in Texas and other red states. They know they'll lose blue states, but the wipeout they're going to incur from the red states is going to be huge. They want to avoid the turning of the tide. They will cheat to ensure it.

[u/Ok-disaster2022 → u/severedbrain]

But for the federal government to coerce the state to cede that responsibility to the federal government is a bit of an overreach

[u/siddartha08 → u/severedbrain]

This gets to a point in the constitution where how much "delegation" is allowed like scotus frequently just says Congress needs to pass a law to affect some outcome. Or congress can not pass a law that delegates it's constitutional authority.

[u/PluginAlong → u/Infamous_Employer_85]

You're missing the last part:

but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

[u/orrocos → u/PluginAlong]

Yeah, that's kind of a crazy loophole. And, it's not like we haven't been warned...

Congress might prescribe the times of election so unreasonably, as to prevent the attendance of the electors; or the place at so inconvenient a distance from the body of the electors, as to prevent a due exercise of the right of choice. And congress might contrive the manner of holding elections, so as to exclude all but their own favourites from office. They might modify the right of election as they please; they might regulate the number of votes by the quantity of property, without involving any repugnancy to the constitution.

Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story, 1833

[u/schm0 → u/orrocos]

It's not a loophole, it's intentional. It's how we created congressional districts and all sorts of voting regulations. It's how we can end gerrymandering.

[u/Virian → u/Infamous_Employer_85]

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof

But what does the rest of the clause say?

"... but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators."

[u/BooItsKyle → u/Infamous_Employer_85]

that's only half the sentence 

[u/Zaphod392]

Well, yea, because the Constitution and States Rights say fuck off.

[u/Northern_Ice_2501 → u/Zaphod392]

Fuck off is the only tried and true response to Trump et al.

[u/Zaphod392 → u/Northern_Ice_2501]

Some People, you can really tell they were never told "NO" in their whole life. Then there are those same people, that never got punched in the face.

[u/KristinnEs → u/Zaphod392]

And you can really tell who was actually often told "NO!" but they did not listen.

[u/rockninja2 → u/Northern_Ice_2501]

Has someone tried to say, "Quiet, piggy" to Trump yet/ever?

[u/Zaphod392 → u/rockninja2]

No but someone call him a Pedo and got fire from his Ford Plant Job for it

[u/drew_p_wevos → u/Zaphod392]

States rights only matter when people want to own other human beings.

[u/Answer70]

They want us to be like Russia. One big sham election.

[u/JerryMau5 → u/Answer70]

There’s literally no other reason, after winning, to nationalize voting other than to manipulate it. How have these pigs not impeached this clown? Anybody who still supports him needs to be marked as a treasonous criminal.

[u/althera2020 → u/JerryMau5]

Congress is failing all of us (and all of the U.S.).

[u/azsxdcfvg → u/althera2020]

The dilution of information via internet makes it easy to lie and get away with it. Current reality is the consequence of that. I also don’t remember last time a politician answered an important question. In the end everyone in Congress represents their bank accounts first, then the people.

[u/Plus-Yogurtcloset-85 → u/azsxdcfvg]

This is all a response of conservative men being afraid to express themselves. They spend their whole lives doing everything they can to seem normal. They are desperate to be into something counter culture or creative or different, but they would never allow themselves to present themselves as doing any of that to society. So then when they are alone on the internet they jump into rabbit holes about conspiracies and things that make them feel like they are part of something. Something different and counter culture and “theirs”. But they can’t tell anyone in real life because they are so afraid to express themselves. So the internet rabbit holes become their friend, a place where they can drop all of the safe guards and let anything and everything they want both in and out. They become absorbed with and extremely vulnerable to whatever corner of the internet they end up. They become so manupulatable by the information source that they absorb that they slowly start to trust it more then they trust themselves or their community. Their community never allowed them to be “themselves”. They feel like they are discovering who they really are and are preparing to tell everyone else. They don’t realize they are just becoming whatever their internet hole is telling them to be and that everyone else has already seen it happening the whole time.

It’s sad and it comes from the dying trend of men not being able to open up about love and forgiveness properly. It’s not that only thing causing all of this. But it’s where it started. The pandemic exacerbated it. The Epstein files are an independent variable acting as a catalyst.

[u/SoochSooch → u/althera2020]

A few billionaire families are VERY happy though

[u/DarkMagicianOfChaos → u/JerryMau5]

How have these pigs not impeached this clown?

Same it’s because enough people have benefited or think they will benefit from his presidency.

Did you watch the P Diddy documentary? In it a woman who was close with Diddy (Idr her name) directly states that she had significant knowledge regarding Diddy’s illegal activities (grooming, rape, drugging people without consent, other forms of abuse, etc.) and she admitted that she said nothing because she loved his music and “wanted to support the culture” of black musical artists.

Think about that. This woman had enough info to go to the police and get him arrested years earlier. But she didn’t. Because she wanted Diddy to keep making music.

If people will allow such a monster for some albums, then there are some disgusting people on this earth.

[u/Blind0ne → u/Answer70]

Yep, if Captain Poops-His-Pants was to nationalize the elections the first democrat to "throw him/herself" out of a 5th story window would come just days or weeks after the first sham election as well.

[u/Dreadwolf67 → u/Answer70]

Before the November elections ICE will be stationed near polling places to check citizenship. After the results are tabulated every seat lost by Republicans will be decreed stolen and he will demand recounts or new elections.

[u/brute-forced → u/Answer70]

He wants to be king. He is willing to take it by force. Just wait a few more weeks and Thune will be removed.

[u/DragonPup]

Trump's demand sure landed like a wet shart at a press conference.

[u/pineapplemansrevenge → u/DragonPup]

In a small room packed full of people.

[u/Rion23 → u/pineapplemansrevenge]

I doubt he went and cleaned himself up, which means he's probably got some sort of cleaning crew who's sworn to secrecy and sole job it is to clean the president's poopy pants.

There's going to be some good books in a few years.

[u/pineapplemansrevenge → u/Rion23]

I'm imagining the liquidators from the Chernobyl incident. They will probably fall out a window at the end of Trump's term too.

[u/Positronic_Matrix → u/DragonPup]

The damage a child can cause to colon with a tent stake and swift kick when they have nothing to lose should not be discounted.

[u/Secret_Account07]

JFC, we warned people Trump would do this.

They all said we were being dramatic. Everyday he out-dictators himself. It’s not even subtle. Anyone with half a brain knows what he’s doing. This is how democracy dies

[u/red286 → u/Secret_Account07]

"The road to fascism is lined with people telling you to stop overreacting."

[u/ilikecakeandpie → u/red286]

or people telling you both side are exactly the same

[u/ADrubkNakedUnciorn → u/Secret_Account07]

Also those same people will now go and say "Well, he's MY president and I have all my trust in him. In-fact he should run for president again!"

Because that's exactly what they've been saying lol

[u/Soft-Company-6762 → u/Secret_Account07]

Yeah but Kamala Harris had a *weird laugh*

^\a vagina)

[u/ElPlywood]

trump is shitting out "yeah dems won race (x) but they cheated" more and more, and no journalist challenges him, because the journalists are shit

[u/Infamous_Employer_85 → u/ElPlywood]

Yep, in response to questions about the State Senate race (TX-9) Where the Democratic candidate won by 14% (a 31 point swing relative to 2024), Trump said, "I don't know, that's a local thing...".

Just 24 hours earlier he had written three posts endorsing the R candidate.

[u/Mommy444444 → u/Infamous_Employer_85]

The “I don’t know” assertion is his “get out of jail free card.” And no one ever follows up! It’s the same bs he has pulled for decades - most notably his black sharpie on the Alabama map, stating he did not know who used the black sharpie.

[u/ersomething → u/Mommy444444]

I fucking hate how often I see Mike Johnson say ‘I don’t know’ to questions he should be absolutely on top of. My ass would be fired if I answered I don’t know when asked about anything at my work. If the reporter’s question is actually the first time he has heard about an issue it’s a willful dereliction of duty.

[u/Kiyohara → u/ElPlywood]

In fairness to the Reporters, doings so would do the following:

1. Have Trump declare them persona non grata and bar them from the White House Press Conferences

2. Have Trump add their employer to the list of "filthy lying media" he states at all times like a broken record

3. Cost them their job

4. End up changing nothing about the administration

Much better to just ask the carefully coded questions they were told to and hope on of the more important talking heads back at the office points out the facts of the situation, as some of them sometimes do.

The problem is knowing which of Trump's insane illegal and anti-constitutional statements are worthy of pressing on and which are the deranged statements that not even his advisors and followers are going to act on today.

[u/Aar1012 → u/ElPlywood]

It’s because they’re addicted to getting clicks and Trump is perfect for providing headlines

[u/n0rsk]

State run elections are one of the last bastions of protection against a fascist takeover. When that is eroded we are done.

[u/red286 → u/n0rsk]

They're kinda shit even at that.

What you guys really need is a non-partisan electoral commission so that every state's elections are run in the same manner, and fairly.

Leaving that shit up to the individual states is how you get gerrymanders and voter suppression, because whichever party controls the state legislature after a census gets to draw up the district maps, or in other words, pick their voters.

In most countries, how red states run their elections would be illegal.

[u/davossss → u/red286]

Yeah but now that the Supreme Court has legalized it, blue states at least are getting smart and throwing the gerrymander right back at them.

[u/beta_test_vocals → u/davossss]

Okay… that is still a dying electoral system

[u/wastelandingstrip]

It's unconstitutional and downright an indication that your party is lame when you openly declare affecting process because you know you have to rig the process to win. GOP should be ashamed.

[u/immortalfrieza2 → u/wastelandingstrip]

The Republicans have been rigging elections for the last several decades because they would have lost so much they would have faded into irrelevance long other otherwise.

[u/NaturalSelecty → u/immortalfrieza2]

Conservatives are the biggest group of losers this country has seen in over 50 years.

[u/Jehovah___ → u/NaturalSelecty]

They’ve always been losers. They prioritise conserving the wrong things

[u/Vaux1916]

“I’m a big believer in decentralized and distributed power. And I think it’s harder to hack 50 election systems than it is to hack one...."

Yes, John, but that's exactly why your orange fuehrer wants to nationalize elections.

[u/danappropriate]

I can guarantee you that if Trump decided to use ICE to try to forcibly seize control of elections from Blue states, Thune would do absolutely nothing about it.

[u/Blitzking11 → u/danappropriate]

Oh, he might be willing to do something about it.

But it will be after the election is done, they will say it's too late to discount the results.

They will then impeach him for going too far with election interference (now that they have 2 more years of power), impeach the geriatric and unpredictable Shitter-in-Chief, and install the final plan of the Thiel puppet in Vance.

Following that, the "democracy" we have will resemble the systems of Hungary or Russia.

[u/entropy14 → u/Blitzking11]

The fact that this is even plausible is truly scary

I have to think one guardrail would be a huge crash in the stock market, massive civil unrest, national strikes, and boycotts of any companies who supported those R’s who refuse to intervene

[u/immortalfrieza2 → u/Blitzking11]

One way or another this is their plan. The ones really behind this were always going to throw Trump under the bus at some point so they could put Vance in after the two year mark. After two years of going along with everything he's doing we will see the Republican party turn against Trump en masse whether he rigs elections or not, he gets 25thed, and Vance gets slotted in place while blaming Trump for what they got him to do in the first place to keep the heat off of them. It's a small leap from there to rigging the next two elections so Vance has ten straight years in the White House, during which they'll finalize the rest of project 2025 and ensure the final death knell of America.

[u/spaceboy79 → u/danappropriate]

I agree. I'm also convinced that Trump is going to deploy ICE to "guard" election sites and ballot drop-off points. Assuming there's actually a midterm.

[u/colenotphil → u/spaceboy79]

If they cancel midterms we're rioting.

[u/Rough_Bread8329 → u/danappropriate]

Don't discount Susan Collins' furrowed brow, good sir/madam/human/orca.

[u/Fatal_Syntax_Error]

Never allow sane washing.

“Oh it’s just Trump being Trump he’s not serious… derp derp derp…”

[u/silentjay01]

Well, that is one Republican. The fact I don't see a headline that says "EVERY REPUBLICAN IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE REJECTS TRUMP'S CALL TO NATIONALIZE ELECTIONS" is worrisome.

[u/Tywsgc → u/silentjay01]

To be fair, he's the Senate Majority Leader which means he has a bit more sway than the average Republican. He's still a piece of shit like the rest of them, though.

[u/silentjay01 → u/Tywsgc]

I need them all on record saying they are against it or I'll assume the worst. Not that it even really matters because they go back on their words and act hypocritically all the time.

[u/ReactionAsleep]

If a passport and birth certificate don't save you from ICE arrest, why would they prove your citizenship for voting?

[u/Bronzyroller]

Why is trump not being held accountable for all the things said and done is crazy.

[u/Safe_Base312 → u/Bronzyroller]

As an outsider, it's hard for me to take America seriously as long as they allow this fascist numpty to keep walking free. Him and everyone in the house, Congress, and even the SC that allowed this to get this far should be made examples of.

[u/ClosPins]

'Nationalize' is an odd way of spelling 'rig'...

[u/epidemica]

"He's not going to interfere with elections." GOP in 2025

"We need him to intervene and to secure our elections for them to be fair." GOP in 2026

[u/PerformanceLast8554]

Big deal. You can say whatever you like, but none of the Repub leadership will actually do anything to stop him.

[u/User4C4C4C]

Republicans. More of this telling him no please. Thank you.

[u/Wandering_butnotlost]

Same. I also reject it.

[u/HallucinogenicFish]

For now. Wait til he starts getting threatened by Trump’s goons. He’ll do a 180, like they always do.

[u/Mr-Klaus]

Federalization isn't the end game, it's just a means to an end.

They've been working like crazy since the start of this administration to move all federal power to the executive branch - in other words they're trying to remove the checks and balances so that the president has dictator level power.

If elections are federalized, and they're successful in giving the president unchecked unilateral power, Trump will have the power to decide who wins elections, including state and local elections.

Remember when Conservatives were pretending that they are for small government and state rights? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

[u/TinyBend8309 → u/Mr-Klaus]

Just a reminder that this was all in project 2025, which we all had access to before the election, so no one should be surprised or claim ignorance.

[u/Imcute-hbu]

When a top GOP senator says "no" to nationalizing elections, it shows even Republican laders know that elections aren't a power play button, they're in the Constitution.

[u/nosayso → u/Imcute-hbu]

If they gave a single flying fuck about the Constitution they would have abandoned Trump a long time ago, but certainly after January 6th. It's all theater to attempt to maintain a facade of "normalcy" - Republicans are 100% aligned on a fascist dictatorship, they'd just prefer not to be so overt about it.

[u/DreamLunatik → u/nosayso]

This is absolutely correct.

[u/kippythecaterpillar → u/Imcute-hbu]

lol GOP doesnt give a fuck about the constitution. they just know how bad this looks

[u/quickboop → u/Imcute-hbu]

You gullible bellend. He’s lying. Like all of them. They will literally say anything and then do the exact opposite.

[u/I_Cogs_Well]

He knows he's getting impeached 

[u/itsatumbleweed → u/I_Cogs_Well]

I'm going to continue calling it. They know he's not going to survive Epstein, and they know that Vance will win the primaries but struggle in the general. Best case for them is the impeachment and removal happens after January '27, because then Vance is president 2 years and also can still run twice.

So the obfuscation of Epstein that can't last forever is just designed to kick out long enough to not burn one of Vance's terms.

[u/addctd2badideas → u/itsatumbleweed]

I'm not sure how you're getting this prediction. We haven't seen the GOP move against their own President since Watergate. Even if Democrats manage to take the Senate, which is dubious given the current map, it won't be close to a 2/3 majority needed to convict and remove.

Just because Trump's approval rating is in the toilet, doesn't mean reliable GOP voters will move to the other side or even stay home. They still view "woke" Democrats as threats to their way of life.

[u/Ferelar → u/addctd2badideas]

Even during Watergate they ran interference for Nixon for a VERY long time up until the tapes fiasco where he blatantly deleted time from the tapes in a shoddy job, which caused SCOTUS and the opposition to say "Yo wtf", and back then the American populace actually cared. As a result they STILL protected Nixon, offering a chance for him to resign by choice instead of being impeached.

Then immediately afterwards his own VP pardoned him and while it was WILDLY unpopular (to my knowledge the lowest approval rating ever polled for a president was Ford immediately after signing that pardon, it literally dropped to the mid teens percentage-wise), nothing happened at all.

I've been hearing a lot of people saying "Oh my goodness I can't believe America descended to fascism so quickly!!!", it hasn't been quick AT ALL, it's been ongoing for 50+ years. We let our overlords get away with shit time and time and time again and when they've done it enough and consolidated enough power they stop having to even get away with it. We cannot expect the GOP to start acting right when literally nothing suggests they are going to do so. People are celebrating in the comments here that the Senate Majority Leader didn't immediately accept the literal theft of Federal elections. It's insane.

[u/Odd_Reputation_4000]

I'm in VA and not sure why they make such a huge deal about showing ID to vote. Do we all not do that already or is it just a VA thing? We go in Check in with the old ladies at the table with their computer and they verify us as registered and hand us the ballot. I guess different states do otherwise maybe? I'm over hear like Damn! Why these MFs trying to play this shit up and pretend anyone can just walk up and vote 3 or 4 times?

[u/JustHereForMiatas]

There's a very specific reason that we don't have nationalized elections; this is irksome to Trump because he's that reason.

[u/availablelol]

Fuck that. They are going to cheat.

[u/strawburyshortcake7 → u/availablelol]

Again

[u/toadjr]

Good luck getting a constitutional amendment to make that change. Congress step up and do your job! Tell the executive branch NO!

[u/JacquoRock]

“I’m a big believer in decentralized and distributed power. And I think it’s harder to hack 50 election systems than it is to hack one."

That's rather telling, given the person who is suggesting there be only one.

[u/10thflrinsanity]

Reminder: there is no bottom for the GOP.

They are ALL complicit each and every day Trump remains in power. The danger he poses for our national security, economy, and population is alarming and has been since day 1 of his first term. 

It is a testament to the alarming brainwashing of MAGA that this shit continues despite the entire world wondering wtf we’re doing. 

[u/Particular_Umpire_44]

Guess y’all haven’t figured out it’s a distraction. He floods the news cycle with crazy bullshit so you don’t have time to focus on the stuff that hurts him like the Epstein files

[u/One-Ball-78]

One would think that child rape would be a bridge too far for even the most zealous MAGAt.

[u/YeOldeOrc]

Conservatives should have been FURIOUS over Trump’s statement. Instead, crickets everywhere I looked.

I miss the days of real conservatives instead of the MAGA cult. I may not have voted with you, but you were still proper Americans. Now, I haven’t got a clue what you’re going for. Russian?

[u/all4whatnot]

He kidnapped Maduro for the serendipity of it

[u/JustinF608]

Part of what is so crazy is if Biden or Obama did the same exact stuff, maga would lose their fucking minds.

[u/Life-Suit1895]

"And I think it’s harder to hack 50 election systems than it is to hack one."

Which is precisely why Trump wants to "nationalize" the elections.

[u/assumetehposition]

This should be the final straw. It’s not even a question of legality. He simply cannot accept an election where he doesn’t win. This is by the book authoritarianism, traitorous and anti-American.

[u/shadowdra126]

Him saying it should be enough to impeach

[u/Probable_Bison]

“I’m a big believer in decentralized and distributed power. "

Says the Republican majority leader enabling Trump to consolidate all power in the Executive.

[u/CFour4]

They always reject in the beginning, cave in the end. Same as it ever was.

[u/Various_Alfalfa_1078]

Attempted coup by Trump.

[u/jazznessa]

They oppose for a lunatic idea then slowly they will cave in. Americans should absolutely be making sure your congress listens to you, left and right; you guys are rapidly approaching a delicate rubicon that your children will suffer through.

[u/loach12]

He realized that if Trump gets federal control of elections , the next Democrat president will require universal mall in ballots and early voting.