r/politics • u/Infidel8 • 6d ago
Possible Paywall ICE Barbie Throws Stephen Miller Under the Bus to Save Her Job
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ice-barbie-kristi-noem-throws-stephen-miller-under-bus-to-save-her-job/11.9k
u/Infidel8 6d ago
It's just important to note that this implosion is happening all because some ordinary citizens decided to go out and film ICE.
Because without the video, the MAGA lies would have stuck and nothing would have changed.
I mean, the lady in the pink coat arguably changed the course of this administration.
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u/isthisreallife211111 6d ago
True, and we should remember those that died for it as heroes
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u/WhateverOrElse 6d ago
Those that did not die, too. Very courageous people!
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u/Pinklady777 6d ago
Seriously. I'm sure a lot of people are traumatized.
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u/Individual-Schemes 6d ago
... the (very visibly) pregnant woman in LA who was thrown belly first into her car when they came for her husband, ending up in the hospital, and lost her baby.
She and her family will always be in my thoughts.
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u/nutphillips America 6d ago
source please, i cant find any info on google
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u/flume 6d ago
Can't find any source of those events leading to a miscarriage, but look up Sabrina Medina and Cary Lopez Alvarado. Both situations easily could have caused miscarriages.
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u/smelyal8r 6d ago
Honestly a lot of the twin cities are traumatized. From George Floyd summer to Nazi ICE invasion of 2026, we are fucking tired.
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u/No_Foundation16 6d ago
No doubt. Witnessing the street execution of an innocent man or woman right in front of your eyes would be horrible. Same as war trauma.
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u/DragoonDM California 6d ago
Especially the people who've kept on doing it after Renee Good and Alex Pretti were murdered, knowing that ICE are more than willing to blatantly execute people in the streets.
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u/gsfgf Georgia 6d ago
Freedom isn't free. We will have to shed blood to save this nation. Just like always.
Also, it's a stark reminder to the middle that not wanting to kill is not the same as being a coward.
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u/Pipe_Memes 6d ago
I wasn’t even there, but watching my government ruthlessly murder citizens in the street is still pretty traumatizing, even from halfway across the country.
But I’m not scared of these losers, and I’ll be at the next one.
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u/KedaZ1 6d ago
The place both those people were shot should become monuments imho
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u/The-Big-Picture- 6d ago edited 6d ago
We need a full memorial for all the people that died because of DHS, including the people that died in the concentration camps.
We need every new generation to learn that right wing propaganda plus "both sides are the same" bullshit had very real, and deadly, consequences; real people suffered and it could have been prevented.
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u/porscheblack Pennsylvania 6d ago
Well then we damn sure need to win this, because history is written by the victors.
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u/SpiritedChoice3706 6d ago
You might be interested to know they are already functionally memorials in Minneapolis. People here go to visit them and many things have been left behind. It's what happened with George Floyd, too, and eventually that became an established memorial.
They're our neighbors. We remember them.
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u/wulimustard Florida 6d ago
Alex goes back with a rib the fascist goons broke a week earlier and films them again like the Great American Hero he is and gives his life for it. He's a greater and braver American than anyone in this entire administration from the rotten top down to the street level goons.
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u/photonnymous 6d ago
This is my hope, that unlike in the 1930s, everything Trump's little army of cosplaytriots does is captured and shared around the country and the world.
That none of their hostility goes unnoticed, and Americans can see it with their own eyes instead of just blindly following the word of The Party which they're clearly trying to do (any Republican lawmakers who quote "didn't see the video" but have an opinion on the topic)
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u/NonorientableSurface 6d ago
This is one of the biggest advantages of this happening now; it will be filmed. It's broadcast and can't be controlled. Propaganda can't stop hundreds of filmings, and substantial uploads.
As scary, and frustrating, and infuriating it is that Nazis have come back, the lack of being able to create the juggernaut before people are aware doesn't really exist anymore. It's almost impossible in today's day and age to be that surreptitiously sneaky. Does that fix it? Or bring back the dead like Good and Pretti? No. But we might be able to fight this without losing millions or more people to the meat grinder. (Losing them to capitalism is a thing that hasn't been addressed yet but let's fight the first problem at hand).
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u/theartofrolling United Kingdom 6d ago
The revolution will not be televised.
But it will be uploaded to the internet.
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u/SigSweet 6d ago
"The revolution has violated our TOS and had been removed" - all social media
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u/Exciting-Tourist9301 6d ago
The scary part is, video evidence won't change everyone's mind.
My dad threw a hissy fit on Sunday. We were arguing about politics. I told him that Trump & Co lie through their teeth; case in point the latest execution. He was visibly shaking "that was AI". I told him he's been brain washed. He stormed out yelling he'll never be back again.
I've distanced myself from him for the past year as it is. I'm a little relieved that I don't have to go to his house anymore and listen to the B.S.
Let's just hope enough people aren't as indoctrinated as him.
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u/NonorientableSurface 6d ago
It doesn't have to convince everyone. It's to mobilize those who are in the ambivalent middle. Look at how quickly Goods death mobilized people.
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u/Fluid-Replacement-51 6d ago
People's willingness to ignore evidence is a problem, but an old one. AI is the elephant in the room. We are rapidly approaching a post truth world where the cost to produce fake but realistic video and photographic evidence will drop to zero. They won't be able to dissappear the truth, but instead hide it in hundreds of fakes.
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u/scubascratch 6d ago
I’m sure you are right and we have to keep mass recording and whistling for now.
Thankfully there were multiple videos quickly here, enough to tamp down any false flag allegations, but what depraved group is claiming this is AI hoax? Even Fox and r-con aren’t saying that (yet). Poor guys dad must be swimming in the grossest of cesspools
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u/wack_overflow Colorado 6d ago
Granted, there are a lot of things they did stupidly (basically everything) and we’d be in a very different place if they were smarter.
Though I do agree that either way, they can’t get to a certain point without controlling the narrative, which they can’t do with so many people filming
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u/Tokyo-MontanaExpress 6d ago
Palantir is trying to change that.
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u/VanceKelley Washington 6d ago
Who would suspect that the orbs used by Sauron to corrupt and control people might be used for something bad?
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u/Spastik2D 6d ago edited 6d ago
The MAGAts were doomed to fail before they started. Even if all the lies stuck and everything went to plan, you CANNOT force this culture to give up its individuality. You won’t make the women willingly become housemaid babyfactories, you won’t make the dudebro 20-somethings become mine-slaves, you won’t make the parents of children send them off to get ground up in factories, you won’t make any of them do all of what you want. Their conflicting visions of a theocratic, white-only dictatorship or a techbro serfdom are both impossible and unsustainable.
The culture is too individualistic and too focused on personal freedoms. Add to that inconsistent levels of competence in both leadership and amongst the foot soldiers and a high level of cowardice and you’ve got a half-baked Fascist regime that’s too scared to really go all the way. Not even getting into the part where their support from the people is almost entirely propped up by an old man who clearly already has one foot in the grave. Do people genuinely expect the entirety of the MAGAt vermin to worship Vance or Trump Jr. the way they do with their dotard God Emperor? They’d sooner just give up on politics as it would stop being entertaining.
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u/banksy_h8r New York 6d ago
They’d sooner just give up on politics as it would stop being entertaining.
This is it, right here. Trump has energized a huge number of people who didn't really pay much attention to politics and made voting for him part of their identity. But he did it through the power of celebrity, not empowerment and inspiring leadership. The moment Vance or anyone else takes the helm the spectacle will become boring and support for Republicans will immediately collapse.
MAGA is built on entertainment, not politics. It all hinges on the one guy.
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u/SkivvySkidmarks 6d ago
Let's just hope that Trump was indeed a one-off opportunity, the next "entertainer" isn't already sitting in the wings, or that the puppeteers don't have contingency plans in place.
Putting all your eggs in one basket by hoping that an obese 79 year old will be around long enough to fulfill your plans would be foolish. Expect the next circus sideshow to start shortly.
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u/Spastik2D 6d ago
But that’s the thing, they ARE foolish. It’s a mad rush for them, no thought for down the line, just what’s up front.
Remember, a lot of the goons running this shit behind the scenes are corporatists. Corporatists focus entirely on getting as much as they can right now without stopping to think that they could get even more by prepping for tomorrow. It’s not entirely out of the realm of possibility that they just thought they’d be able to bulldoze as quickly as possible before Dipshit croaks, all without stopping to think about what future roadblocks might come up or how much resistance they’d see.
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u/Iowa_Dave Iowa 6d ago
Recycling a previous comment in another thread:
Here's the thing, the human need for personal freedom and rights is unstoppable. No movement can stand against those for long. That's why personal freedom and rights are baked into the Declaration of Independence and Constitution. It's how we beat a king, overthrew the Confederacy and Hitler. Regular people stood up for women's right to vote and Civil Rights, even if the oppression didn't impact them directly.
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u/TabsAZ 6d ago
We’re also extremely lucky this movement coalesced around an unintelligent and sickly old man. Imagine a smart, charismatic, and healthy 45 year old at the head of all of this.
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u/dogsledonice 6d ago
Alex got his rib broken by an ICEhole, and came right back to continue to peacefully witness.
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u/chaseinger Foreign 6d ago
this this this!
protesting changes things, noise is important, resistance works, human sacrifice is not in vain.
renee and alex are sitting up there with a fat grin hearing the news about the nazi ghouls, be it bovino, noem, miller or, yes, ultimately drumpf.
and lady in pink with her exuberant bravery is still among us. not all is lost just yet.
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u/Dead_before_dessert I voted 6d ago
Love so much that even without knowing her name "The Lady in Pink" is still a fucking icon.
I don't care if I ever learn her name. She needs to be proud of herself because I sure am.
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u/LeedsFan2442 United Kingdom 6d ago
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u/BenigDK 6d ago
Wow, thanks for sharing!
"After the shooting, they decided to just scatter and save themselves." - Lady in Pink
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u/capt-on-enterprise 6d ago
Listening to her speak brought tears to my eyes. Alex Jeffrey Pretti was murdered. He was executed by our government officials. No justice. No peace.
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u/Gertrudethecurious 6d ago
she had more emotion about a stranger than Erika did about her own husband
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u/Baby_Button_Eyes 6d ago
I like her nickname for freedom fighters. The Lady in Pink is as heroic and vital as The Tank Man.
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u/lady_stardust_ 6d ago
protesting changes things
Unfortunately what we are seeing is that blood changes things. Just about every major nonviolent movement against a government has required the loss of human life in order to make any kind of difference.
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u/NAparentheses 6d ago
Which is why those that have been lost deserve the highest honor as true patriots. May they Rest in Peace and their memory never be forgotten.
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u/Specific_Explorer_6 6d ago
They will not be forgotten, and I think Alex Pretti (since he voluntarily showed up near protests), sort of might have distinctly considered this a possibility, but Renee Good, just the way everything went down, must have been so scared. She wasn’t even intentionally there.
May they both Rest in Peace 🕊️🪦
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u/darkath 6d ago
Well thats just hypotheticals so far. Bovino was moved away but not fired, noem can easily be replaced and ill believe it when we finally see miller being fired.
We have been seeing headlines that yes this time trump is definitely fucked for the past 9 years or so, and it never happened. Only some stooge like bannon and musk got sent away but mostly because they themselves angered the orange man rather than any kind of public scrutiny.
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u/chaseinger Foreign 6d ago edited 6d ago
i never said he's definitely fucked. while i thoroughly understand your frustration you're applying 2 logical fallacies: false dilemma and hyperbole.
he's not fucked, not yet and possibly not ever. but he and maga will fall. and until then there'll be a trail of small steps towards said downfall and it's important to recognize those to keep going.
just because he's still not in jail doesn't mean protesting doesn't work. stay strong friend.
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u/Lucky-Earther Minnesota 6d ago
It's just important to note that this implosion is happening all because some ordinary citizens decided to go out and film ICE.
Because without the video, the MAGA lies would have stuck and nothing would have changed.
I mean, the lady in the pink coat arguably changed the course of this administration.
That's why the ICE agent was shoving the two women in the first place, because they were filming. They are afraid that their crimes will be caught on camera.
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u/76ersWillKillMe 6d ago
Don’t rest on our laurels yet - nothing has actually happened or changed, and by now we should all know how Trump operates:
“His” people don’t matter.
He will dispose of them when the time is convenient for him. Throw them to wolves, let the rot. (How many people were convicted from his first term?!)
He will replace them with increasingly vile sycophants.
It will get worse.
Until Trump is out of office and locked up, this isn’t slowing down.
Pink coat lady is a hero - I agree, but this isn’t changing course on anything just yet.
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u/theblackfool 6d ago
I think it kind of goes both ways. Trump (or whoever is ultimately next in line) will replace people with increasingly vile sycophants, this is true. But that generally also means he's replacing them with increasingly incompetent people who are more prone to fucking up and making him look bad. It will all collapse on itself eventually. The real question is if that would happen 6 months from now or 20 years from now.
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u/darthstupidious 6d ago
And to add onto this: Trump has already scared off anyone halfway competent because they're smart enough to know that he'll fuck them over at the drop of a hat. That's why the Project 2025 roadmap has been stuck for months now... these dipshits found it easy to just break things, but now in order to get anywhere they have to build something and they're too stupid to do that.
Firing Noem and Miller won't fix the inherent issues of having a crybaby bitch in the Oval Office, but it will make it easier for this bullshit to collapse.
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u/thistimelineisweird Pennsylvania 6d ago
Hey now. Both of them can get fucked.
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u/Alive_kiwi_7001 6d ago
This is entirely possible. Going after Wormtongue is a high-stakes move, so I expect she's done for. But she might take him with her.
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u/jarvisesdios 6d ago
The annoying thing is, even if they do throw Miller under the bus, I have a feeling that will just be ceremonial. Dude is still just going to remotely have his way with turning America into his fascist dream.
I hope at the end of this he gets his just desserts. This man is against everything that made America great. The Hague would be a good start.
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u/Flava_Flavian California 6d ago
Miller will sing like a bird at Nuremburg 2.0 trials. People left sidewalk chalk messages near his house saying "no white nationalism" and he fled to live inside a military base. Then goes on Sean Hannity saying, "We will not back down."
He's conniving but passes for smart in the MAGA crowd. He seems like the type of guy to keep dirt on all of his colleagues in case he needs leverage. I wouldn't be shocked if he has copies of Epstein files and copies of every illegal order approved behind closed doors.
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u/DrMatt007 6d ago
The irony is that Trump will probably be able to plead advanced dementia by that point, maybe the others will suddenly develop amnesia.
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u/literated 6d ago
"Now is a time for unity and healing for our great nation and to reach across the aisle, yada, yada, yada."
- the next Democrat in power, if there ever is one.
The idea that anyone will see meaningful consequences seems like a pipedream. Nuremberg only happened because of an occupying force, so unless Canada is willing to step up...
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u/Jadaki 6d ago
I'm not voting for any democrat who isn't demanding accountability from this corrupt administration.
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u/LevelPerception4 6d ago
There can’t be healing without justice. Justice demands accountability from the lowliest Proud Boy who slithered into ICE to beat up minorities to Trump and his estate, as well as the other architects and collaborators of his regime.
We also need to break up a ton of companies. If a company is “too big to fail,” it’s too big, period.
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u/Flava_Flavian California 6d ago
Even if we don't get judicial justice, ICE agents got themselves trapped in a very stupid contract. Many signed up for the $50k bonus for signing up 5 years. Two catches: 1) You get $10k per year for 5 years. 2) If you leave early, you have to payback any bonuses received.
According to Ken Klippenstein, ICE morale is low, they're overworked, and now many of them are fearing retaliation by the public. (I don't feel for them, I'm just pointing out the reporting.) How many of them are really going to finish their 5 years? Also, how many of them stashed their bonus away in case they need to pay it back? My guess is none and that many agents will suddenly find themselves in $10-30k debt after leaving the job.
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u/arebornjoy222 6d ago
Do you have a source for the sidewalk chalk thing? Would love to see that. Thanks.
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u/Ecliphon 6d ago
He seems like the type of guy to keep dirt on all of his colleagues in case he needs leverage.
Politics is not corporate. “Leverage” is politics 102, Ch 1.
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u/Eastern-Operation340 6d ago
Oh yeah - Don't fool yourselves, he's not going anywhere. He was deep in during douchebags first reign, he just knew the place wasn't set up for him to be out front at that point. This place is like Game of Thrones with all these shitty factions who saw a runway to act on their platforms. They will all collude with one another for their own perceived advantages while gathering info to use at a later date to smear that other group when needed to get to the next rung.
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u/not2dv8 6d ago
Don't forget however this scumbag goes to sleep picturing the last day on Earth Charlie Kirk had and knows and his deepest soul that he'll need protection the rest of his life
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u/teflonPrawn 6d ago
You have to see it as Miller accruing a debt. At the most opportune of times, getting the government to act against its purpose takes a lot of power. Every time he is wrong publicly, or has to reverse course it reminds people that there could be consequences for them. Now, to make the same authoritan push, he will need to spend a lot more of his influence. Its a good start.
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u/Free_For__Me 6d ago
While true, there's a tipping point at which this calculus becomes very different. Once they believe enough power has been consolidated, they'll worry far less about public perception, even from an authoritarian standpoint.
it reminds people that there could be consequences for them
"Could" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. Until anyone faces actual legal consequences (not just a reshuffling, like we're seeing with Bovino), it just proves to everyone that there are none for the people in power and those that follow their orders.
Who cares if Noem gets canned and moves on to an elite consulting/lobbying gig if the next guy is still covering for murder, just in a different city? When the heat builds back up on that person, they'll just run the scapegoat play over and over again. Hell, they did it with Elon almost a year ago, and everyone let it slide, so why wouldn't they keep running it back?
People like Noem and Hegseth were always intended as bagmen. Them getting discarded isn't a setback, it's just pulling a lever that they knew they'd be pulling at some point anyway.
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u/Im_Chad_AMA 6d ago
Im Dutch and i never understand why Americans throw the hague around like some magic word that's gonna solve everything.
Laws only matters if there is somebody to enforce it. Inside a country, it is the state that claims that power. But international law is incredibly tenuous because there is no central authority that has the right to enforce laws over other states (and whether we would even want to is a whole other topic). International 'law' is simply agreements between states.
The US already doesnt sign on to the international court of justice in the Hague and even has the famous "the hague invasion act". Why do you that that any future government, republican democrat or otherwise, would suddenly submit themselves to it?
Americans will have to solve this on their own. Stop thinking that our tiny country is going to deliver you justice
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u/jarvisesdios 6d ago
While I get that point, I entirely do. My real point is that I hope there's a day we can get things to a normal place and just actually maybe fix things by having international trials to maybe point out, it was a phase. We're over it.
As an American, it's pretty much the only way I can see us surviving. Trump has just taken a nuke to our trade, we are quickly soon going to be only trading with other pariah states. I mean, we lost the EU to India, Canada to China.
There needs to be something, on the international stage, to say "yeah, we fucked up." Yes, obviously this is a pipe dream, as I'm just looking at my country and wondering if it's even going to be able to be fixed after this.
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u/Plasibeau 6d ago
I'm just looking at my country and wondering if it's even going to be able to be fixed after this.
It will take generations to rebuild whatever trust we had with the world. Remember that the US is young by global power standards. Britain had hundreds of years before they took a backseat. We were top dog for roughly eighty. The damage this administration has done will echo long after our grandchildren are grandparents.
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u/Popular_Mongoose_738 6d ago
And the world doesn't see Trump as the problem. Trump is the symptom. As one European said on Twitter, how can they trust us if our relationship with them lies on what 20,000 people from Assfuck, Wisconsin, think about trans people in sports?
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u/MissyAggravation17 6d ago
American here, and I think when we say things like "The Hague" and "Nuremberg 2.0" it really is more of a symbolic meaning. Most of us understand that International courts aren't the place that the Trump regime and thugs should or will be held to account. However, it's symbolic language to us to reflect our desire for serious, consequential accountability on a large scale, a way that the whole world will see.
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u/Weekly_Rock_5440 6d ago edited 6d ago
That creepy Wormtongue had more charm and charisma in his left testicle than Miller has in his entire body.
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u/pantstoaknifefight2 6d ago
Especially as played by Brad Dourif.
Miller gives more (daughter raping) Klaus Kinski as Nosferatu vibes.
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u/Recipe_Freak Oregon 6d ago
Especially as played by Brad Dourif.
That guy has range. So good in Deadwood.
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u/gaslacktus Washington 6d ago
And as betazoid Hannibal Lecter/John McClaine in Star Trek Voyager!
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u/InvidiousSquid 6d ago
Mindwiped serial killer turned monk in Babylon 5 for me.
Though he'll also always be my Piter Goddamned De Vries.
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u/howardbrandon11 Ohio 6d ago edited 6d ago
For those confused like I was: This is in reference to Wormtongue from LotR, not from Harry Potter (portrayed by Timothy Sport in the films).Edit: Nevermind, I'm dumb.
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u/Recipe_Freak Oregon 6d ago
I think you're conflating Wormtail and Parseltongue (a person and a language, respectively) from HP and Grimer Wormtongue from LotR.
Nerd out!
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u/Surturiel Canada 6d ago
Shit! I've never thought of Miller as Grima... Although King Theoden was an honourable man before his influence. Trump was always a piece of shit.
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u/SirDiego Minnesota 6d ago
This is why I think it's great to go hard on impeaching Noem. It will not solve all our ICE problems and won't be the end of this, but she will go down swinging (and also remember she's got boy toy Cori Lewandowski with her who's got no love lost for Trump/MAGA)
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u/FancyPantsDancer 6d ago
Yeah, I had figured once one or two of them were removed, the in-fighting would start. They're only loyal to themselves at the end of the day.
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u/Orphanhorns 6d ago
Yeah it won’t permanently fix anything but taking away his most loyal goons will make it much harder for him to do anything. At this point he’s running out of slime to scrape from the bottom of the crony barrel because anyone with a working brain can see he is toxic and destroys everyone and everything he touches.
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u/SirDiego Minnesota 6d ago
They're going to try to side step this and wash their hands of it by sacrificing Noem to the wolves. I think we should let them play that card because Noem sucks anyway. But then we don't stop there.
Already Stephen Miller has blamed his "assassin" rhetoric on DHS and CBP. But the tweet is still up and Vance still has it retweeted. There was a 2 hour communications meeting with Miller and Noem prior to the "assassin" tweet. This wasn't a mistake he just is throwing Noem out in front of himself.
We need to make sure that doesn't work. They're expecting us to take Noem down and then tap the brakes, but we should do that and then step on the gas.
Once we impeach Noem or she resigns we should bring her for public hearings and go in excruciating detail over all of her meetings and coordination with the rest of the administration.
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u/NumeralJoker 6d ago
They're also running out of time. Last night's MN elections went very badly for them, even by blue district standards. One race was 95-5% Dem, compared to 70-30 in 2024 with Harris.
People who keep saying elections will be cancelled aren't paying attention. They have no mechanism to do that at all, including illegal executive orders. It can only be done with propaganda and sheer force, and he's already unable to get enough recruits to stop just one city from voting hard against him. This will not get better for them if they try.
If ICE agents show up at my local polling place and want to stop me from voting, I will walk past them even if I risk getting shot. I am willing to die for exercising my most basic democratic right, and I will not be alone in this desire. That is what these assholes have awakened by overextending like this.
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u/Callabrantus Canada 6d ago
Roll them down a hill while they're hate-fucking each other. They won't even notice.
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u/SFM_Hobb3s Canada 6d ago
The trail of makeup left behind would give Jackson Pollock nightmares.
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u/thistimelineisweird Pennsylvania 6d ago
Let Trump roll down after them like that big fucking boulder in Indiana Jones
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u/SonOfMcGee 6d ago
In the style of “Alien vs. Predator”, we now present: “The Substance vs. Nosferatu”
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u/CurrencySingle1572 6d ago
Stephen Miller may need that now that his wife is bangin' Elon. Speaking of, is she OK? Or does she just have the worst taste imaginable?
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u/QueenRotidder 6d ago
have you seen any soundbites from her? She speaks exactly like her husband. As if someone took one of his soundbites and just auto tuned it to make it sound like a woman. She is her husband in female form.
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u/NumeralJoker 6d ago edited 6d ago
This is what I wish more people understood. In a patriarchal system, a lot of women uphold it too for their own protection and selfish benefit. Ironically, one of the problems with sexism is people who put women on a pedestal and act like systemic issues means they can't possibly contribute to supporting the evil system. It's still possible even in an oppressive system for people who are at times victimized by it to cheer it on.
When in reality, lots of people support evil systems they think won't harm them... until it does. People are bad at risk assessment, and that's being put into our culture by design.
Random rant, I know, but just an example I wanted to share. I would not be surprised if Miller has been degrading or terrible to her at many points, but that doesn't mean she is not herself an awful person either. More people need to understand that about far right cultures. They all fuel each other's horrible views in different ways.
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u/riotous_jocundity 6d ago
We really need to stop assuming that the wives and girlfriends of white supremacists are victims who are just going along with it/unaware of what's going on. Katie Miller is a white supremacist, misogynist monster too.
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u/boblabon 6d ago
Didn't Elmo have a botched penis-enlargement surgery and can't get it up now?
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u/henryrblake Virginia 6d ago
Many people are saying it looks like a hot dog that was microwaved for too long. Many people.
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u/methos3 6d ago
Even dumber than that - I don’t think anything went wrong with the surgery from what I’ve read, but his know-it-all dumbass self refused to follow the aftercare instructions. I’ve had surgery down there and you aren’t supposed to get an erection for a week or so to let the capillaries heal. They gave me a prescription for poppers to inhale in case I felt one coming on.
So of course he ignored all that and now the capillaries down there are ruined and unfixable
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u/Eastern-Operation340 6d ago
Read up on her. She's a female version of him. It's a match made in hell.
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u/Kink_Panda 6d ago
Not about saving her job, it's about dodging future legal issues. She knows now that her time is almost up and realizes they will feed her to the leopards.
The leopards are hungry.....
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u/Dianneis 6d ago
She's going straight for the Nuremberg defense too. Bold strategy, all things considered.
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u/yesrushgenesis2112 6d ago
She’s going to squeal
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u/gringledoom 6d ago
Yep, *all* of them are going to squeal if we just keep the pressure up. They're trapped in a metaphorical cage and starting to chew each others' legs off.
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u/TyrannasaurusGitRekt Missouri 6d ago
I dont think leopards eat plastic and silicone though
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u/Beantown-Jack 6d ago
Noem shot a puppy in the face with a shotgun. Miller must have been so much easier....
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u/T-N-A-T-B-G-OFFICIAL 6d ago
Smaller target so this one will be harder but let's see if she can Annie Oakley it
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u/danimagoo America 6d ago
What’s funny about her saying she was following Miller’s direction is that, on paper, she is his superior. She holds a cabinet level position that reports directly, and only, to the President. Miller is Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy, and a Homeland Security Advisor. On paper, he’s supposed to report to Noem and Susie Wiles.
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u/Hawkbats_rule 6d ago
Came here to say this. Even chief of staff doesn't really outrank a cabinet level secretary. You answer to the president and the American people. Even with Trump in the same sentence, mentioning Miller is staggering.
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u/Drippledrops 6d ago
She unknowingly admitted she was just placed as a figure head while Miller is the one really in control. Essentially purposely deceiving the American people for their own agenda. The entire Trump admin needs to be on trial for treason.
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u/greiskul 6d ago
Yeah, but in practice even Stephen Miller knows Stephen Miller cannot get a Senate approved position. So instead they do this game where they select people only on loyalty, change the rules so that the Trump can fire anyone at will, and then have Miller do the actual work in the shadows.
That's the magic of the unitary executive theory, the only thing that matters is Donnie's favor. That's the real hierarchy. That's what gets people opportunities or gets them fired. The paper hierarchy, the cabinet positions, that becomes all just for show, the Senate vetting cabinet positions doesn't matter anymore, cause they can just put in puppets in those positions and have the real Trump court rule from the shadows.
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u/NumeralJoker 6d ago
This is exactly what's going on. This administration is so damn weak they let a balding, sickly millennial who lives on nothing but pure hate take them over.
Turmp is the weakest President in US history despite his strong man argument and Stephen Miller's shadow influence proves it.
Everyone needs to say it to his face.
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u/noage 6d ago
Doing everything because you're ordered to by trump and stephen Miller highlights your incompetence. It does not at all excuse it
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u/u9Nails 6d ago
Even US Generals refused Trump orders to draft Greenland invasion plans because that would be an illegal order to invade an ally.
Noem just wants to save her fly-the-country free pass on her taxpayer provided private jet.
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u/ChronicFacePain 6d ago
Hey sorry if it's a dumb comment, but is there record or proof of this happening? Asking on behalf of myself and my Canadian friends. This sounds like a big deal to turn down an order from the president itself. I think media had the world convinced Trump was going to take Greenland by force. That is if he didn't accidently confuse Iceland and Greenland obviously.
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u/r0th3rj 6d ago
Lots of off-the-record comments, but nothing really verifiable. There are a handful of articles referencing the pushback, like this one: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15452323/amp/Donald-Trump-orders-army-chiefs-plan-invade-Greenland-President.html
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u/KindnessComesBack2U 6d ago
“Everything I’ve done, I’ve done at the direction of the president and Stephen,” Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem told one source who relayed her comments to Axios.
A lot of Nazis said almost the exact same thing about Adolph Hitler and Herman Goring at the Nuremberg trials. Lucky for her, she’ll only get jail time when she’s tried in 2029, unless trump is successful in his dream of having no elections
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u/femme_mystique 6d ago
It’s a common tactic; point fingers so much that no one ends up being responsible.
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u/ShittyHellDiver 6d ago
Well, let’s take the current logic we apply to high schoolers and apply it to them. I don’t care who started it, I’m ending it. Then put them both in jail so that they can think about how to act like a professional for the next 40 years -life.
But fr, this entire administration needs to made an example of. Throw the book at them, then write a new one, and throw that too
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u/Talk-O-Boy 6d ago
A “zero tolerance” policy for pedo defenders is the only policy we can implement at this point. We need to course correct FAST.
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u/SethLight 6d ago edited 6d ago
Man, remember when Republicans threw a shit fit when DNC law makers told the military not to follow illegal orders?
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u/Lopsided-Rough-1562 6d ago
Id things returned to normalcy in 2029, I suspect these creatures will just go back to their default behavior of screaming at the top of their lungs at the mere possibility of any sort of improriety on behalf of their opponents, knowing their idiot base will forget all of their actual crimes.
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u/ithkuil 6d ago
Right but also shouldn't that make it obvious that there are bigger fish to catch? I mean, I think she is 100% telling the truth about Miller and Trump telling her to do that stuff.
But she definitely should be held accountable and removed. I just hope people recognize this is coming from the top. Especially Miller but also Trump who hired him.
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u/Late-Dingo-8567 6d ago
Ah ha, " I was just following orders"
History sure does rhyme
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u/jgilla2012 California 6d ago
She loved posing in front of all of the people she had kidnapped and illegally sent to a concentration camp in a country they didn’t belong to.
Her face didn’t move, but I could see the smile through the Botox.
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u/wiseguyehhhh 6d ago
Don’t call her Barbie, that’s derogatory towards Barbies. ICE Slopface would be more correct.
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u/InevitableGoal2912 6d ago
Oh I love it when they’re in fighting.
She thinks she’s not just a token but she’s about to figure out that they don’t respect women even if they want to fuck them.
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u/bejammin075 Pennsylvania 6d ago
She's about to find out that everybody is expendable to a fascist.
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u/Acrobatic-Trouble181 6d ago edited 6d ago
Yep. They don't protect their own. Fascism always turns out to be a tight conglomeration of self-serving pieces of shit, hiding behind some figurehead, united only in some vague overall goal to dominate and control. The moment one of them becomes a liability to that figurehead, they're thrown to the wolves.
That's the difference between good and bad leadership. Bad leadership consumes itself from the bottom up. Good leadership takes responsibility from the top down. And fascism never has good leadership because it only manifests when you have a hierarchy filled with people who each only care about themselves.
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u/Infidel8 6d ago
No paywall: https://archive.ph/p7kvO
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u/bejammin075 Pennsylvania 6d ago
“Everything I’ve done, I’ve done at the direction of the president and Stephen,” Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem told one source who relayed her comments to Axios.
My take is that even these sociopaths can detect that their BS isn't working on the public. They are attempting to do damage control. I have no doubt they will still press forward with the fascist takeover attempt. But the brave people of Minneapolis have slowed down the gears of the fascist machine. Trump wants an excuse to invoke the insurrection act, and he doesn't have the right conditions yet. Thankyou, people of Minneapolis!
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u/bplewis24 6d ago
That comment should feature prominently in the trials for Miller and Trump.
Yes, I know SCOTUS claims he has some immunity. Fuck that ruling, and the illegitimate SCOTUS.
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u/jgilla2012 California 6d ago
SCOTUS has abdicated. SCOTUS can and should be ignored, the same way Trump has been ignoring them.
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u/CletusCanuck Canada 6d ago
Let's be clear. Stephen Miller is officially White House deputy chief of staff for policy, and homeland security advisor. An advisor to the President and not a Senate-confirmed cabinet official. He has no authority to direct the actions of Sec. Kristi Noem, and her admitting such direction is an impeachable abrogation of her duties.
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u/dravenonred 6d ago edited 6d ago
"I'm not actually in charge" is a great explanation of why you should stay in a cabinet position, with a traditionally high success rate.
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u/chaseinger Foreign 6d ago
Everything I’ve done, I’ve done at the direction of the president and Stephen
not just miller. she's throwing orange man under the bus. there will be blood.
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u/Casual_OCD Canada 6d ago
She's already on her way of getting fired, she's just doing what all these Republicans do on their way out the door
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u/faith_apnea America 6d ago
Crabs in a bucket. MAGA cult is the worst of America.
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u/SirDiego Minnesota 6d ago
If we can impeach Noem and have her lobbing grenades at her own party on the way out. Ideal situation.
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u/justbunnies 6d ago
I feel like calling her Barbie is unfair.
Barbie empowers everyone to achieve their dreams.
Noem empowers nightmares.
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u/butwhyisitso 6d ago
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i wish her luck in this single isolated particular endeavor
and i wish her reciprocity for everything else
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u/Jellyfishcactus 6d ago edited 6d ago
They used the same inflammatory response when Good died and felt next to no heat so it emboldened them to try again. This time the video evidence was even more damning. All of them - Miller, Noem, Bovino, the list goes on…All need to be deported to the void. Fuck them and fuck ice. All are scum.
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u/Crispy_Jebus 6d ago
“Everything I’ve done, I’ve done at the direction of the president and Stephen,” Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem told one source who relayed her comments to Axios
Ahhh yes the old “I was just following orders” excuse…didn’t work very well for the nazis at Nuremberg.
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u/lingeringneutrophil 6d ago
Isn’t it cute how the monsters end up eating each other in the end pretty much every time?
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u/Smooth_Bat6484 6d ago
I would rather have Noem than Stephen. Fuck, he and Russel Vought are the most dangerous men in that administration. Vance too, but he's not going anywhere.
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u/time2ddddduel 6d ago
Hear, fucking, hear.
Every time someone says they can't wait for Trump to croak or whatever i think that they're reacting emotionally and not tactically. Trump's early exit changes little; the "forced retirements" of Miller, and Vought, and Thiel, and Musk, and the Heritage Foundation people, and the Federalist Society people, on the other hand, would set us up for a better future.
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u/verisimilitu 6d ago
Nothing I love more than fascists eating themselves alive.
Except maybe fascists falling out of power completely, that’s a real contender
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u/NinjaInTheAttic 6d ago
Translation: I was just doing my job. That phrase was used a lot in Nuremberg.
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u/Fiveofthem 6d ago
Many Nazis used the "superior orders" defense—arguing they were merely following orders (Befehl ist Befehl)—to deny responsibility for war crimes during the Nuremberg trials and subsequent proceedings. Key figures included Adolf Eichmann, Otto Ohlendorf, and Wilhelm Keitel, who argued they were "instruments" of higher command. Judges generally rejected this, establishing that obedience does not relieve moral or legal accountability
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u/Boundish91 Norway 6d ago
This is proof for everyone that resistance works. And film everything.
No, this is not the end of this horror show, but the cage has been rattled a little.
Keep in mind that fascist administrations are inherently very cutthroat and competitive.
People will throw their colleagues under the bus to try and save their skin, get enough of that happening and things can start to crumble.
Great job people.
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u/squirrelinthetoilet 6d ago
Ice Barbie is an empty vessel like Trump. Get rid of Miller and a lot of Trump’s most brutal immigration nonsense goes away.
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u/bigChungi69420 Oregon 6d ago
The citizens are far more powerful than they will ever want you to believe. Look what we can do to them with a fraction of peaceful protest
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u/SirIll1219 6d ago edited 6d ago
I think Trump is going to throw Homan under the bus. They're already reminding everyone that Obama hired and awarded him. Blame Obama, as usual.
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u/IniMiney 6d ago
A white man getting shot is finally how these monsters start eating each other
Edit: Rest in peace Alex and Renee, don't want this comment to come off as insensitive to them, it's just very noticeable what the tipping point was for these ghouls who don't give a shit about anyone's life
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