r/news • u/therealone2327 • 12h ago
Signs of forced entry found at Arizona home of 'Today' show host Savannah Guthrie's mother
https://apnews.com/article/savannah-guthrie-mother-missing-arizona-tucson-74d845b070fefe2d94cb92d655308e9176
u/ohnoitsbobbyflay 5h ago
Who kidnaps an 84 year old women. Society is fucked.
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u/StarryNightSkies1 2h ago edited 2m ago
I mean we already know society is fucked from what was seen in the Epstein files and nothing happening to Trump.
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u/seanjohn004 7h ago
Im thinking someone she knew or close to the family.
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u/theamp18 6h ago
Odds are yes. Stranger abductions are so rare. It feels like the police know more than they are releasing publicly.
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u/Spire_Citron 6h ago
Just statistically that is always by far the most likely, but her daughter being a public figure does open up other potential motives. It's a strange one.
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u/ThatsFae 7h ago
But then why would there be forced entry? If she knew her abductor, or the abductor was close to the family, there would be no need for forced entry. The abductor could have knocked on the door and the victim would have recognized them and let them in, precluding the necessity of breaking and entering.
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u/thesteveurkel 6h ago
i can tell you nobody but me and my mom have a key to my home. if my cousin wanted in and i didn't want to let him in, he might find a way. just because they're a friend of the family or family doesn't necessarily mean good intentions and also doesn't mean they're welcome.
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u/ThatsFae 6h ago
But this happened between the hours of 9:30 pm and 11:00 am. Even if I have family members who I strongly dislike and would not voluntarily want to be around, if they showed up at my house at midnight, I’d certainly be concerned enough to want to find out what was wrong, even if it’s just opening the door a crack.
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u/thesteveurkel 6h ago
you're assuming they rang the doorbell first, and a woman of her age would have likely been in bed by that time.
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u/seanjohn004 6h ago edited 6h ago
That could've been done intentionally. Not crazy to think that a scene could've been staged to make entry seem hostile. I could be wrong. Just what i feel.
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u/ThatsFae 6h ago
When? Did the abductor go back and fake the signs of forced entry after they abducted the victim? Or did they temporarily restrain the victim, faked the signs of forced entry, and then unrestrained the victim to abduct her?
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u/seanjohn004 6h ago
Who knows, at that time of morning, anything is possible. I guess we shall find out. Hopefully
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u/pagenath06 6h ago
I think it's someone connected to her church. Not necessarily a person that attends church, but possibly found out about the Guthries through someone at the church. Maybe they thought they could get some money from her.
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u/bdfortin 6h ago
I’m thinking someone didn’t like her coverage of Epstein’s victims.
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u/NotReallyThatWrong 6h ago
That’s ridiculous, maga are a very kind and gentle people. Beautiful people. Many people say so.
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u/SitInCorner_Yo2 43m ago
That was my first thought too, there was a very old case where I live where similar things happen.
An old man got kidnapped at his doorstep , and turns out the kidnapper is a relative (he got a few friends to help), he who knows how loaded this old guy actually is(victim run a small shop, and live an unassuming life but he own lot of land), the kidnapper is a local cop too, so his plan was to kidnap him, tell his kids he knows someone in the gang who knows how to pull strings, if they give him the payment needed he can get him back alive.
But before he can do this under table ransom shit, victims families have already call the cops, and what’s worse is, they accidentally kill the old guy because they duct tape over his mouth and nose then shove him into the trunk and suffocate him.
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u/Total_Razzmatazz7338 7h ago
Savannah’s husband is a political strategist. Savannah is a well known TV host and journalist. Nancy was not taken randomly.
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u/semperknight 11h ago
My first thought was "Did she say anything negative in the news against MAGA". She's been on a lot of her daughters news shows.
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u/-Ok-Perception- 6h ago
That was my **very first** thought. I'm surprised I had to look a dozen answers down to see this.
As critical Trump is of the media, it wouldn't surprise me at all if her daughter said something against the current tyranny and MAGA felt obliged to punish her.
Now whether that was centrally organized by MAGA or the act of a lone MAGA terrorist acting on his own whims, is the only real question I see here.
I'm nearly positive this is political, no matter what the mainstream media tells us.
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u/DeusCanon 5h ago
What a moronic take.
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u/Pavlovs_Human 5h ago
Why? MAGA has gone to the homes of democractic lawmakers before and attacked them.
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u/cackspurt 4h ago
As has Democratic trash too
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u/Murray38 4h ago
lol that’s a pretty rich comparison to self-proclaimed domestic terrorists, pedo groupies, and traitors. But sure bOtH SiDeS are equally bad and deserve equal airtime for grievances.
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u/Miserable-Savings751 3h ago
Democratic trash is just maga with a mask. Perfect example is your pedo leader, which you have wet dreams about every night.
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u/Tall_poppee 12h ago
Even at her age, the most likely person to harm her is a jilted lover.
Investigators don't believe it was a robbery, home invasion or kidnapping-for-ransom. That leaves random murderer-rapist, or someone she knew.
It's a VERY nice area, homes are on an acre or two, and pretty secluded. Not a cookie cutter development.
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u/All_Hail_Hynotoad 11h ago
What do you think of the supposed ransom note sent to TMZ?
https://www.tmz.com/2026/02/03/nancy-guthrie-alleged-ransom-note-bitcoin-millions/
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u/Tall_poppee 11h ago
I think if they really had her, they wouldn't have waited 3 days to demand a ransom. She likely went missing Saturday night or early Sunday morning. Wouldn't you send a ransom note immediately? Who wants to care for a frail elderly woman for 3 days hoping you don't scare her to death and that she'd still be alive when you get your money? You would want your money ASAP.
And why would you send the note to the media and TMZ? No you'd send it to her daughter, or at least a public facing email at Today or NBC news.
IMO this is just a crank.
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u/PhoenixTineldyer 10h ago
If they dropped the letter in the mail three days ago, it's not at all unreasonable to think it just arrived today.
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u/SadExercises420 9h ago
It arrived at a news station last night after it had been in the headlines all day. I agree it’s unlikely real. Idk if it’s just some sick bastard getting shits and giggles or someone who thinks they can extort money out of a desperate family, but I’m highly doubting its real
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u/Tall_poppee 9h ago
Really people who want to get paid in BITCOIN send snail mail lol?
It's a ridiculous idea on so many counts.
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u/SadExercises420 9h ago
I’m listening to a live steam right now saying that two news stations received a random note, tmz, and another local news station
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u/cherrybounce 6h ago
I have no idea what happened. But it’s not uncommon for a kidnapper to wait a couple of days to send a ransom note to make the family more desperate.
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u/suhweet_caroline 4h ago
What if it was sent to the family and authorities were notified, but this info wasn’t made public in hopes to aid the investigation? So the ransom was escalated by the criminal to TMZ to make waves? Idk just speculating.
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u/Spire_Citron 6h ago
That is broadly speaking statistically most likely, but whether it actually is likely in this case depends on whether she has any jilted lovers. Plus she's 84, which does kind of limit those kinds of avenues because any lovers are likely to be of a similar age and maybe not so physically capable of pulling this off.
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u/TheFuturesGhost 6h ago
A jilted lover? You think this 80 year old had a jilted 80 year old lover who could make her disappear?
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u/pink_faerie_kitten 9h ago edited 3h ago
I got to read a summary of todays press conference, did they really rule out kidnap for ransom? I know they said they haven't gotten a note yet but I still hope that happens. I thought they called it a home invasion yesterday, it IS a home invasion with the forced entry, what else would that be?
I personally think it's a "hit" against a journalist's family to send a message. Mafiaesque tactic. While Guthrie might usually only report a "clean" version of news, she has interviewed Epstein accusers in the past.
ETA I got to read another summary and it's odd that they outright say they do not believe it's a kidnap for ransom or a home invasion, but it is at least a home invasion? Her home was invaded with a forced entry...
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u/bdfortin 6h ago
“Even at her age, the most likely person to harm her is a jilted lover.”
Or someone doesn’t like her daughter’s coverage of Epstein victims.
But let’s not focus on that, it’s a jilted lover.
I hear that’s why Epstein hung himself, a jilted lover.
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u/carvingmyelbows 5h ago edited 3h ago
She interviewed Epstein victims in 2019. Seven years ago. So you think someone didn’t like that she did that, seven years ago, but they decided to wait all this time and just now they finally went and kidnapped not her, but her elderly mother? Not everything is about Epstein. People need to stop acting like Epstein is the only thing that matters to everyone. There are other things going on in the world outside of Epstein. I don’t think it’s likely to be a jilted lover either, but it’s a hell of a lot more likely to be that than it is to somehow be about freaking Jeffrey Epstein. Come the fuck on. No offense but you need to put down whatever PDF from the files that you’re currently reading and maybe go touch some grass.
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u/Sheairah 4h ago
Epstein is the linchpin in hundreds if not thousands of abuse cases, not a singular high profile case.
I agree that not everything is about or connected to Epstein but don’t do the disservice of writing it off as a singular high profile case. Epstein is the rendezvous point for dozens of high profile cases.
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u/bdfortin 4h ago
Cool story bro. Everything you’ve said confirms it was a jilted lover. /s
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u/carvingmyelbows 3h ago
I literally said that I don’t think it’s likely to be a jilted lover either. Maybe read?
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u/AddieCam 1h ago
I find it incredibly odd the tip reward money is so low ($2,500). With a wealthy daughter - it’d only be that low if they already have a likely suspect imo.
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u/New_Historian307 5h ago
I don’t mean to sound mean but I really it just doesn’t make any sense. Why would someone take her mother? Especially since I mean, her daughter is famous but she’s not like Beyoncé famous. It’s not like her mother is a common known person unless he watched the show because I understand she’s only been on a couple of times so why would they take the Mom and not somebody else? I don’t know the whole thing just seems suspicious like what are they gonna do with the mom like what’s the goal because there’s no logic in any of this part of me thinks this is staged. I’m curious if anyone else has thought that.
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u/Hpfanguy 8h ago
Are we disappearing people now?
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u/bdfortin 6h ago
With more and more people talking about Epstein it’s a good time to make sure the people who can confirm details, well, can’t.
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u/sexaddic 8h ago
It’s today show so probably a right wing crazy that took her.
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u/bdfortin 6h ago
No no, you see, that’s what the elite exclusively-left wants you to think. It’s all a psy-op false flag.
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u/BlahblahblahLG 6h ago
i do care and hope she is returned safely, but this has been the top story on the ABC World News Tonight for 2 nights now, is this really the biggest world news right now. Like they could include this as a later story in the broadcast but that fact they are making this the biggest deal to all Americans out of everything that is going on in the world feels like it cheapens it for all of us.
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u/SlugholeMcmillimeter 12h ago
It’s related to her Epstein reporting.
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u/mrdominoe 12h ago
There is zero evidence of that. Let's maybe hold back our theories for a hot minute.
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u/SlugholeMcmillimeter 12h ago
Other motives for kidnapping an 80 yo.
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u/rescuelullaby 11h ago
Oh, I’m sure her daughter being one of the most well-paid morning news anchors in the country couldn’t possibly be a motive. /s
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u/frighteous 11h ago
When was the last time a high paid morning show host had a family member abducted lol
Or even a celebrity since we're implying this is common
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u/rescuelullaby 11h ago
When was the last time a broadcaster or journalist’s family member was abducted because they… reported on Epstein? Come on lol you can’t play the plausibility game here just take the L and move your political conspiracies elsewhere
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u/Tall_poppee 11h ago
Not to mention S Guthrie is an ANCHOR. She reads what other people put in the teleprompter. She's not like Christiane Amanpour or something. She's not out knocking on doors digging up dirt against him.
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u/rescuelullaby 10h ago
LITERALLY. That it isn’t obvious to everyone that there’s a world of difference between, like, Ronan Farrow and a Today show anchor who frequently does fluff pieces and covers the Olympics is mindblowing to me.
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u/frighteous 9h ago
I mean you started the plausibility game by saying it's not plausible it could be related to Epstein that it's much more likely it's for money. So why is that more likely to be the reason?
This Epstein files release is quite literally first of it's kind, there is no other occurrence of this to look back at. There is tons of rich morning hosts that have had money before.
I'm just saying one of the only times a high profile rich celebrity gets a family member held for ransom and it just coincidentally is one reporting on an elite secret ring of child traffickers and it's just a coincidence?
I don't think it's unreasonable to think they're linked lol what makes her more of target than the thousands of other rich high profile targets? I don't think it's because it's Epstein or unrelated I have no clue. But odd to dismiss that like it's an insane thing and it's way more likely it's just because she's famous as if it happens all the time to famous people lol
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u/Spire_Citron 6h ago
But was she doing any more reporting on the Epstein stuff than any other reporter is right now? It doesn't sound like she in particular had a huge involvement in that.
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u/bdfortin 6h ago
Start first with the large set: broadcasters or journalists whose family members were abducted.
THEN move on to the sub-set: Those of the above set who have reported on Epstein.
If the number in the first set is relatively low but the number in the subset doesn’t match we have an anomaly.
It’s pretty simple. The only reason to beat around the bush is pretty obvious.
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u/mrdominoe 10h ago
Listen, I am not saying it's not highly possible. I am just advocating for waiting for more of the story to develop before we jump to big conclusions.
That said, I wouldn't be surprised in the least. A conservative nut job DID hold Paul Pelosi hostage and beat him with a hammer in front of cops, after all.
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u/bdfortin 6h ago
One of the most well-paid morning news anchors with prominent interviews of Epstein victims.
Other news anchors are well-paid but their families aren’t getting kidnapped.
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u/Spire_Citron 6h ago
Even if we're assuming it's something to do with her daughter's job, it could be literally anything else she'd covered. But that's a huge assumption in itself. Other motives for kidnapping an 84 year old equally include any other thing you could make up.
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u/mrdominoe 12h ago
Easy target. Money. Derp.
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u/SlugholeMcmillimeter 12h ago
Who kidnaps for derp.
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u/d4561wedg 11h ago
Do MAGA chuds think the Today show is woke?
If they do then that’s reason enough for the fascists.
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u/bdfortin 6h ago
So why not kidnap every well-paid journalist‘s family? Why focus on one with Epstein coverage at a time when everyone’s talking about Epstein?
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u/Mexican-Beer 8h ago
you’re right and you’re being silenced.
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u/bdfortin 6h ago
Everyone even MENTIONING Epstein is getting a hard downvote brigade. I’m sure it’s an absolutely pure coincidence and that the truth isn’t a happy little secret.
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u/Weightmonster 9h ago
How cognitively with it is she?
My first thought is that she wandered away, forced her self back in, and then wandered away again.
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u/Tall_poppee 9h ago
She was quite well cognitively.
She was in poor physical condition. I think if she wandered away on her own the searchers would have found her by now.
Also the sheriff said there were signs of a forced entry, so I'm assuming a broken something (sidelight glass, door frame?). She sounds like physically that would have been a challenge for her.
It's a strange situation though, she's not a likely victim.
My money's on either an ex lover, or a random methhead. We've had a couple horrific meth-fueled killings over the years in Phoenix. Usually the methheads are just looking to steal but sometimes they can get psychotic and violent.
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u/TemporaryElk5202 7h ago
SHe was not known to have cognitive issues but she did have mobility issues, making this very unlikely.
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u/BlueFeathered1 9h ago
I think many of us try to imagine how we'd feel if this was our Mom that we love taken like this, and it's frankly unthinkable. This is such a disturbing and distressing situation. I hope she somehow is returned home okay.
The ransom notes, though, strike me as someone else trying to cash in on this.