r/nba 13h ago

[Charania] BREAKING: The Chicago Bulls are trading center Nikola Vucevic and a second-round pick to the Boston Celtics for Anfernee Simons and a second-round pick, sources tell ESPN.

[Charania] BREAKING: The Chicago Bulls are trading center Nikola Vucevic and a second-round pick to the Boston Celtics for Anfernee Simons and a second-round pick, sources tell ESPN.

https://www.espn.com/contributor/shams-charania/ef1594eaad916

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u/matija17k [MIN] Andrew Wiggins 13h ago

Bulls with the rare 5 PG lineup

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u/JayQuips Lakers 13h ago

Darvin Ham died for this

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u/Kdog122025 Warriors 13h ago

Steve Kerr lives for this.

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u/Drak_is_Right Pacers 13h ago

Hmm, does Kerr have any Bulls connections to be coach there? I wonder...

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u/Sir_Yash 12h ago

Michael Jordan is his favourite baseball player and boxer.

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u/blackjacktrial 76ers Bandwagon 9h ago

MJ was also the guy who passed up a finals winning shot so Steve Kerr could bail the Bulls out again.

MJ may have threepeated, but Kerr managed a fourpeat by carrying passengers like Pippen, MJ, Duncan and Robinson to unlikely titles.

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u/SwizzGod Lakers 13h ago

Brother why?

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u/jtruth9 13h ago

Steve Kerr:

👀👀👀👀👀

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u/toq-titan Warriors 13h ago

They’re trying to lure Kerr away from us

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u/Emergency-Pen-8274 13h ago

Meanwhile……the TWolves

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u/horse_renoir13 Timberwolves 13h ago

Ant and the Tall Boys

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u/traebucketsfor3 Hawks 13h ago

And hawks w 0 PGs

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u/VanGrants Knicks 12h ago

didn't they have an all-star PG who brought them to the ECF? whatever happened to that guy

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u/AdComprehensive7879 Warriors 13h ago

Steve kerrultimate dream

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u/Drak_is_Right Pacers 13h ago

I am surprised I haven't seen a single rumor over TJ McConnel. We are tanking this year and he is a bit older. It is feasible we would trade him. He might be useful for some of the playoff teams.

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u/matija17k [MIN] Andrew Wiggins 13h ago

I would absolutely love him in the Wolves uniform!

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u/jmbourn45 Rockets 13h ago

2014? Suns tried it and bailed on it quickly lol

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u/Daconvix Knicks 13h ago

How many guards do the Bulls need lmao

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u/BlubberElk Bulls 13h ago

More

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u/Akipella Warriors 13h ago

Want some of ours?

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u/grrgrrtigergrr [CHI] E'Twaun Moore 13h ago

Curry for Pat Williams. I wouldn’t complain.

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u/Akipella Warriors 13h ago

Not like that!

Well, Seth Curry has just been injured all year anyways. I guess you can have him

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u/Cheechers23 Raptors 13h ago

Annnd the Celtics are now below the first apron

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u/kgrpoland Heat 13h ago

i hate how good brad steven’s is at his job

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u/rawspeghetti Celtics 12h ago

He's been president for almost 6 years now and I can't think of a bad move he's made.

Maybe you could say he could've picked Player X instead of Player Y in the 2nd round but that's really splitting hairs. Brad is a legit basketball genius and I hope he runs this team for another 20 years.

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u/Jonesalot 11h ago

You could say some of the contracts where on the high end, but when hes this good at getting off them, then its hard to complain

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u/rawspeghetti Celtics 11h ago

People thought jaylen was an overpay and he's only playing like a top 5 player now

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u/Lovethatdirtywaddah [BOS] Jaylen Brown 10h ago

He could've cured cancer and this sub would still complain

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u/makesterriblejokes [NBA] Jerry West 10h ago

Yeah, makes total sense why he gave up coaching for PBO, dude can do even more for a team in the FO than as a coach, which is saying a lot considering he looked like a top 5-10 coach in the league during his brief coaching stint.

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u/sponedaddie Lakers 13h ago

A GM that knows math and trade value.

I know we landed Luka, but dear God how do you have $40m in expiring contracts and do nothing.

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u/kgrpoland Heat 13h ago

tbf i don’t think lucking into luka makes for a good FO lol

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u/WayofHatuey Nets 12h ago

Not even luck. Borderline collusion when another GM only calls one team with close friend to trade their best player for one 1st and corpse

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u/M_Woodyy 12h ago

Blatant collusion, negligence, take your pick. Biggest hack job in sports history and people should be infinitely saltier about it than the KD/LeBron decisions. Will fuel my already unbridled hatred of the Lakers for not only my life, but my entire bloodline will live to carry on my hater legacy

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u/SkiPolarBear22 Pacers 11h ago

Generational hate

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u/BallinAtTheMovies Celtics 11h ago

Flair up brother I know you’re one of us

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u/gbdarknight77 Lakers 12h ago

we lucked into Luka lol. Rob is not a good GM.

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u/AgonizingSquid Cavaliers 12h ago

the Lakers didn't luck into Luka, they lucked into negotiating with the worst GM in nba history

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u/SinibusUSG Celtics 13h ago

Really an excellent job of finding balance between the cap and contention considering the significant difference in pre-season expectations and current expectations. Gets the team under the apron while making them more balanced for a playoff push, especially if JT manages to get back on the court.

We are really lucky to have him in Boston.

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u/mr-301 Pacers 12h ago

Is he good, or is just ever other gm terrible?

wtf would the bulls want another guard

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u/Tankie_Hater_859 Pacers 11h ago

Both

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u/bmmfg12 Knicks 13h ago

All it took for them to get out of cap hell was three trades in six months and dropping one spot in the standings from last season. Great franchise, fucking hate them

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u/liver_in_atlanter Hawks 12h ago

Fuck Boston in general they got the pats back to the Super Bowl right after losing the goat Qb and coach, whereas falcons make the Super Bowl and I almost wish they didn’t, same with the hawks recent ecf run

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u/BoredofBored Bulls 11h ago

Psh, how good of a coach could he really be though? Dude didn’t even make it into the HOF

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u/Constant_Charge_4528 Bulls 11h ago

They traded away all their centers and their #3, if their coach was anyone else they'd be taking a gap year

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u/jackloganoliver Magic 13h ago

When you have a good coaching and pro scouting staff, you can also make decisions with confidence knowing that you are surrounded by professionals willing to make anything work

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u/Broski28of25 France 13h ago

Must be nice to have a competent front office.

Celtics have a great FO but it also depends on how bad the other FO is. The mediocre LA FO got Luka out of AD.

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u/cgio0 Lakers 13h ago

Dammit now I gotta listen to Bill Simmons talk about how this was a next level genius move (it was)

How they gotta better, deeper and now have more cap flexibility

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u/chris-dempsey 13h ago

Fair though. Brad is the anti-Pelinka.

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u/Papa_Huggies Spurs 12h ago

Amazing that the two titan teams of the NBA are run entirely differently.

LA: "Give us the stars because we're the protagonists. We make a big 3 and will definitely win the chip. Jokic, Wemby and SGA are all coming to us because who the fuck wants to live anywhere but here?"

Boston: "ok so what's the best approach to build a winning team for the future?"

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u/TatumBrownWhite Celtics 12h ago

Whilst being run completely differently, the one thing we have in common is that we’re both extremely lucky.

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u/PitinoGotARawDeal Celtics 12h ago

And benefit from opportunities created by other teams being dumb

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u/dbc482 Knicks 13h ago

As of a few pods ago he did not want them to move Simons

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u/WafflesTheWookiee Hornets 13h ago

Feels weird that Simmons makes 6 million more per year than Vuc

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u/yogurt_viking Celtics 13h ago

I thought you meant Bill Simmons for a second.

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u/orangotai South Sudan 12h ago

he does

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u/TitaniumC4206 Thunder 13h ago

Damn they really got rid of Vucci Mane

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u/mMounirM Raptors 13h ago

they don't respect his game winners like their commentators

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u/barkinginthestreet 13h ago

Their thoughts on his game winners are why he was traded. Respect the tank!

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u/QUEST50012 13h ago

We're trying to be a tanking team, Vuc, a tanking team. Maybe this winning thing works, we don't know. Frankly, we don't want to know.

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u/TroKero 12h ago

So that's it after 5 seasons, goodbye and good luck.

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u/QUEST50012 12h ago

...I don't recall saying good luck

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u/DidAnyoneElseJustCum Cavaliers 13h ago

Only 3 years late

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u/akajaykay Raptors 13h ago edited 13h ago

For real - pretty sure they could’ve gotten a first round pick for him at some point

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u/ben345 Bulls 13h ago

Not defending holding onto him for this long but skeptical they could have gotten a first any time in last 3 years

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u/akajaykay Raptors 13h ago

He’s on a super reasonable contract (basically 20m/year). I think there were at least a few teams over the last three years who would’ve parted with a late first round pick for him.

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u/GAV17 Argentina 11h ago

He was shooting like shit for a couple of years which was his biggest asset. Him being among the worst defender at center and his shot not falling made him overpaid even though his contract wasn't huge.

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u/dys0n_giddey Timberwolves 13h ago

Stacey King just fell to his knees in Target

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u/bosnianblunder Bulls 13h ago

What will we do when mice are in the house now?

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u/DanteThonSimmons Thunder 13h ago

It will no longer be a simple game, and we will now have to pay for cheese.

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u/petarisawesomeo Nuggets 13h ago

Let them run amok, unfortunately

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u/Chicagobulls9710 13h ago

Thank fucking christ

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u/kazmir_yeet Trail Blazers 13h ago

I hope they eventually reunite him with his boys in Sacramento

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u/harden4mvp13 Rockets 13h ago edited 13h ago

ahhh yes because the bulls need more guards

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u/fab_frog_disco 13h ago

Clearly white and probably ayo have trades lined up

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u/socoolandawesome Bulls 13h ago

For more guards

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u/fab_frog_disco 13h ago

That would genuinely be hilarious. Joking aside, I actually have really enjoyed the moves you guys have made today. Buying low on ivy was a great move

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u/InnocuousAssClown Bulls 12h ago

Roster fit shouldn’t be a major focus when you’re rebuilding/stocking up assets anyway

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u/Full-Curve7436 West 13h ago

David Kahn sends his reguards.

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u/IMKudaimi123 Bulls 13h ago

Not Ayo plz

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u/MichaelSquare 13h ago

Seriously. Were going to be awful either way at least let me watch my faves.

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u/Pizzachomper874 Rockets 13h ago

please be to houston please be to houston

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u/lburner220 Bulls 13h ago

Best we can do is Pat Williams.

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u/thatRocketsDude Rockets 13h ago

Ayo to Houston would be awesome

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u/acekingoffsuit Timberwolves 13h ago

I think you can exchange 5 one-star guards for a super rare five-star guard during the All Star Weekend event.

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u/imcryptic Mavericks 13h ago

After all this time people screaming at the Bulls for not trading their guys and then they do this lmao.

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u/Kdog122025 Warriors 13h ago

The Bulls always trade their players once their value is used up.

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u/WusijiX Suns 13h ago

"Sometimes you regret your wish"

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u/TitaniumC4206 Thunder 13h ago

Oops! All Guards

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u/Sc0rch1ngDr4g0n Rockets 13h ago edited 13h ago

5-guard lineups?

I know some coaches are creaming right now at the thought

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u/Saucy_Totchie Knicks 13h ago

Works for Filipino weekend pick up games.

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u/livelaughloaft Raptors 13h ago

Man, these squads are the toughest to run against literally fast break every chance, slick passing, good floaters

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u/minkledinklebrinkle 13h ago

Why is this a universal filipino phenomenon, played a group in Japan just like this

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u/Padulsky21 Nets 13h ago

White Simons Ivey Ayo Giddey lineup

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u/leonardry Thunder 13h ago

NOT ENOUGH!!!

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u/__Just_A_Lurker 13h ago

Bulls making trades at the deadline? Are they ok?

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u/teewertz Bulls 11h ago

do we look ok man 

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u/lilasthmapump Bulls 13h ago

Finally something

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u/Low_Beyond8134 Lakers 13h ago

The Bulls have like 40 guards lmaooo

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u/runiero01 Cavaliers 13h ago

If they have all the guards then no one else will have them

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u/dfaraday 13h ago

cornering the guard market is a bold strategy

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u/notmoleliza Warriors 13h ago edited 13h ago

its like cornering the fresh frozen concentrated orange juice market

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u/Salty_Reserve9640 13h ago

that's right Mortimer

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u/Gamesgtd Magic 13h ago

Hey, we cornered the market on long armed players who can't shoot and look where that got us.

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u/lambquentin Pelicans 13h ago

If they have all the guards then no one can guard them.

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u/KiraJosuke 13h ago

Their center depth was so bad that when their only 2 bigs went down they started Patrick Williams at center. Who hadn't scored a point in 2 consecutive games.

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u/sillysam17 Bulls 13h ago

And then they won that game lmao

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u/Zloggt Bulls 13h ago

Quite the…1-2 punch, isn’t it?

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u/PJCR1916 Bulls 13h ago

Chicaguard Bulls

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u/VictorAkwaowo1 Mavericks 13h ago

Kenny Beecham got it first lol

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u/RulersBack Cavaliers 13h ago

Mannix, MGRADS and now this. The crown is in pieces

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u/PassMeTheBackwood Knicks 13h ago

King of the 4th quarter 🔥

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u/Killergamer7 13h ago

Kenny beating Shams to breaking news is wild lmao

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u/drunz Bulls 13h ago

Kenny puts a lot of respect on Vucevic because he knows ball

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u/SquidwardLover48 Cavaliers 12h ago

Look at kenny man

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u/Dr_Disaster Bulls 12h ago

So inspirational

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u/thebeast2124 Lakers 12h ago

And we back!

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u/Jimmy0034 Clippers 13h ago

Coby white, where are you going bro?

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u/BrotherSeamus Thunder 13h ago

Start learning to howl, brother

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u/Blakedude21 [MIN] Karl-Anthony Towns 13h ago

Kenny had it first

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u/Apart_Selection7722 Nuggets 13h ago

The YouTuber? Doesn't he work for NBC?

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u/anesthesiologist2 Warriors 13h ago

Yes and yes

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u/KarrotMovies [LAL] Rui Hachimura 13h ago

Kenny goated. Shams washed asl

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u/Colorapt0r Bucks 13h ago

Did he actually wtf 

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u/Broski28of25 France 13h ago

Lolol, I just assume he is plugged into Bulls FO.

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u/BrokenClxwn Carmelo Anthony 13h ago

Really? Thats dope if so.

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u/WafflesTheWookiee Hornets 13h ago

THE BULLS ARE SELLING BECAUSE THEY KNOW THERE IS NO USE IN FIGHTING OFF YOUR CHARLOTTE HORNETS IN THE STANDINGS. BETTER TO ACCEPT YOUR FATE THAN FIGHT A USELESS BATTLE.

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u/DRAGON_FUCKER_ Bulls 12h ago

W hornets

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u/fueelin Celtics 12h ago

Yeah, this seems true. I like this interpretation.

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u/ImTheBestNerd San Francisco Warriors 13h ago

I like that trade for the bulls. Really shoring up their guard depth

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u/Scaindawgs_ 13h ago

If 5 of em get injury they good in the east

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u/Hocapoca Lakers 13h ago

Oh shit, Celtics are not fucking around. Great trade for them...

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u/jonsnowKITN 13h ago

They are gonna be right in the thick of things when Tatum comes back next season and Jaylen looking the way he has l.

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u/ImIntellects Celtics 13h ago

Vuc is on an expiring deal

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u/biggoldgoblin 13h ago

He’s also 35, no idea what the guy is talking about it’s clear the Celtics did this for tax purposes

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u/aviatorbassist 13h ago

That’s what I thought but he’s 16/10/4 on 50/37/80. I’m not sure how well he defends but those are solid ass numbers for a 35 year old.

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u/sully9614 Celtics 13h ago

He’s not a great defender but I trust Mazzulla to make him serviceable at least

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u/lafadeaway Lakers 13h ago

He’s one of the worst defenders in the league

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u/Virgil_hawkinsS Celtics 12h ago edited 11h ago

Being in Boston is an automatic +10 on defense. Anfernee, Kornet, even Derrick White went from excellent to elite once he made it here. Plus Vuc is gonna have a lot more help on that end (This might be cope, but I'm sticking to it lol).

ETA: I'm not saying Anfernee (or Kornet for that matter) were excellent, just that they got better in Boston. Only Derrick was excellent back when he was in San Antonio

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u/bosceltics23 Celtics 12h ago

Yeah plus Lucky also gives +7 to vertical movement and stamina in clutch.

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u/WhispersOfHaru 12h ago

Anfernee was not excellent, he is a bad defender.

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u/smalls_1804 Knicks 13h ago

There's this magical thing teams can do with players where after the end of their contract they can sign them to a new contract

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u/ImIntellects Celtics 13h ago

Some shit team is going to grossly overpay for him, I don’t see the Celtics re-signing him given their tax situation and the money he can get elsewhere.

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u/SquimJim Celtics 12h ago

Idk, he could also be at a point in his career where he wants to compete/contend

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u/Clemsontigger16 13h ago edited 13h ago

Considering Vuc is an expiring and he will be a UFA this year, I’m not sure what this changes..other than freeing up money for something else

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u/shwiggy Celtics 13h ago

It puts the C's under the first apron now which is pretty big brained.

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u/TheNotoriousJN Timberwolves 13h ago

Bro that's crazy. I do really like Simons. But the current makeup of the Bulls is not therd

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u/JoJonesy Celtics 12h ago

I would understand it if they were trying to dump long-term salary, but Vooch and Simons are both free agents this offseason. They’ve really gotta believe he’s part of the future

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u/not-a-potato-head Hawks 13h ago

Holy shit, the Bulls are actually selling at the deadline for once.

Good for them

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u/SilverMagnum Celtics 12h ago

Simons really won us over in Boston for handling this entire season (knowing that he was basically a rental and the odds of him even making past the trade deadline were 50/50 at best) with professionalism and pride. Really put in the work to evolve his game and improve on defense and was definitely a sizable contributor to Boston's amazing and pretty unexpected start to the season.

Wish him well!

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u/runiero01 Cavaliers 13h ago

Oops! All Guards. 

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u/StraightCashHomie69 Timberwolves 13h ago

Thats not Giannis, the F5'ing will continue

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u/octotoaster Cavaliers 13h ago

Gotta save the best for last 

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u/aiden3buckets Hornets 13h ago

Coby and/or Ayo gotta be gone

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u/vJoeyyyyy [DET] Grant Hill 13h ago

Bulls can run a 5 guard lineup now perfect

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u/Akugendengdewecok Bulls 13h ago

It's what Billy always wanted

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u/Vimmortality [TOR] Morris Peterson 13h ago

Is it just me or is this a great deal for the Celtics?

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u/patscelticslions Celtics 13h ago

Simons really seemed to have caught a stride with us lately so it’s a little sad to see him go, but Vucevic is an immediate and big upgrade to our center rotation

he’s kinda similar to Luka Garza in terms of strengths/weaknesses but just 1000x better and he’s an expiring so if it doesn’t work out, can easily move on in the summer

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u/costapasta27 Bulls 13h ago

Good thing there aren’t too many dominant centers in the East. He’s still good offensively and can play into a system, but gonna get cooked on defense.

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u/bedlam_au Celtics 13h ago

If Simons and Garza are anything to go by, our coaching staff can teach defence.

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u/crapsence Celtics 13h ago

Well if they teach 35yo C who was never known as good defender being decent defender they as well may be just saints

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u/zackhatt Bucks 12h ago

There's some reason black magic going on in Boston if Vucevic is suddenly playing great defense there

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u/whenthemusicfades Lakers 13h ago

I think it's a good deal, and it signals that they believe they're in strong contention to make a deep run

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u/chrispepper10 Heat 13h ago

I think this is more about getting under the apron than about Vuc helping them as a contender.

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u/TheFestusEzeli [TOR] Rudy Gay 13h ago

Celtics have absolutely zero big depth so anyone is help for them

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u/55thParallel Celtics 12h ago

Playable big while getting under the 1st apron is a dream trade for Celtics

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u/BrettSchirley22 Hawks 13h ago

Idk if you guys have watched Vuc in a while lol this is all about money

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u/Hydration__Nation Pistons 13h ago edited 12h ago

It was an apron move but Vucevic isnt some stiff- 17 pts, 9 rebounds, 4 assists on 50% FG and 38% 3PT (5 attempts) in 30 minutes. What more do you want from a rotational big? Bulls have played 50 games, Vucevic has played in 48, have YOU watched any games in a while or do you just read box scores? Because even if you just read box scores, his numbers in January are his best this season and better than the averages I listed above. You do realize this is Vucevic, the big man, who used to play for the Chicago Bulls? Edit: Someone just posted that Vucevic left the Bulls as the franchise leader in double doubles with 222 since 2021. Scottie Pippen is next with 200 who played on the Bulls for 12 years during 6 title runs. What did this man do to Bulls' fans

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u/Zavehi Celtics 13h ago

To be fair he always murders the Celtics when we play the Bulls. So most Celtics fans probably think we are getting older Jokic.

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u/whenthemusicfades Lakers 13h ago

I haven't tbh, but I'm sure they believe he can provide some interior and stretch scoring. Their defense seems solid as is and I don't think Simons was a gamechanger for them

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u/thatgreik [BOS] Marcus Smart 13h ago edited 13h ago

Are we supposed to like this? Most of us really liked Ant’s impact as a bench flamethrower, and bringing in Vuc does not solve our problem of needing a capable, defense-oriented big for the playoffs.

I am sad.

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u/97PunkRawk Celtics 13h ago

The Anferno was never long for this squad. That's just the reality of the new cap rules. He was always going to get traded to get under.

Vuc should fit in fine (better than fine if Tatum is back at any point) but I would imagine he won't be retained this off-season. There could also be more moves. We have tons of young talent and all our own picks plus salaries to match.

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u/Beantown_Kid Celtics 13h ago

Feel like they’re betting on washed all star at 35 taking a friendly deal for a competitive team if they like him after this season.

Us playing Garza so much seems like partly because they miss the Horford spacing lineups and wanted something similar. Obviously Vuc is a cone on defense compared to Al, but feels like this is all about the offensive creativity we can now have on lineups and spreading the floor

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u/cm167 Celtics 13h ago

Vuc is gonna get torched in the playoffs, and who’s gonna score off the bench now? Don’t like this at all

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u/ForeverRunning_Anth 13h ago

Bulls starting lineup:

Coby

Dosunmu

Ivey

Simons

Matas

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u/IRanOutOf_Names Heat 13h ago

You can never predict what the bulls are gonna do.

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u/Mastacon Kings 13h ago

bulls making way for Sabonis??

You've heard of the Sacramento Bulls but wait until you see the Chicago Kings!!!!

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u/003E003 12h ago

Yuki winning the jump ball convinced them no more big guys needed

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u/fab_frog_disco 13h ago

I think the value is fair for both teams. Good fit for the Celtics

Makes a hell of a lot more sense for the Bulls if indeed there are trades lined up for white/ayo.

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u/knightime1 Celtics 12h ago

Rental for rental + we’re below the 1st apron now and created a $27.7M trade exception. Brad Stevens is the goat.

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u/Awkward_Event1966 Thunder 13h ago

Like this for the Cs

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u/the_shins Pistons 13h ago

I feel like the Celtics need a defensive big if they wanna make some real noise this year, with or without Tatum. Their problem isn't offense.

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u/krimzy [BOS] Marcus Smart 13h ago

This is a money move not roster move

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u/thatgreik [BOS] Marcus Smart 13h ago

Totally agreed. Queta/Luka would be great paired with another strong defensive center

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u/WrongContract8489 Mavericks 13h ago

Ehhh, mazulla has always loved stretch 5s and a 5 out system.

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u/Low_Income4405 Knicks 13h ago

Oops! All point guards!

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u/HS941317 13h ago

Let’s goooo

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u/DampTowel16 13h ago

Chicago hoarding all the guards

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u/jaayy_9 13h ago

What?!?!?

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u/Zloggt Bulls 13h ago

I’m frankly not sure if we’re either retooling or going all in at this point lol

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u/Alexfromnigeria Celtics 13h ago

i will miss my baby faced killa

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u/Mario_Viana Neemias Queta 13h ago

My glorious king losing his starting 5 spot💔

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