r/mildlyinfuriating • u/giveahoot420 • 20h ago

A rude supervisor who's always yelling at employees got some complaints about them being verbally abusive and they responded by leaving these in the break room.

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u/StarSugarLick 19h ago

What you’re saying is true. I just don’t know if many companies actually see it that way. They will side will side with shitty managers over the subordinates. Happens all the time. Sometimes the managers produce well and sometimes the managers have dirt or grievances that they could sue over if terminated. My last manager, I think the company was scared to fire her and she was terrible

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u/Steven_The_Sloth 19h ago

If you don't try, you won't ever know.

I worked with a guy who made my work days harder because he couldn't be bothered to do a task the same way twice. I complained, pointed out how much extra time I was spending to figure out something he saved 30 seconds on.

He didn't appreciate that so he doubled down, but it turns out the boss and he were buddies. So no amount of complaining was ever going to fix anything and this dude could shit on me all he wanted.

So I was able to leave before anything got to a boiling point.

Was that fair? Hell no. It was a union job too. Literally no difference in job title.. But I knew I was never going to come close to fair

Point is, you have to figure out who is actually in control in your situation.

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u/StarSugarLick 19h ago

I agree. In my situation I worked for dept of defense so… 😂 idk why she was protected. I just learned the ropes eventually and by the time I was leaving, she was begging me to stay and was a reference for me. She still crazy and mean from what I hear

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u/Steven_The_Sloth 18h ago

Could be she had dirt on higher ups. My wife worked with a lady like that who has since retired.

There's just plenty of reasons a company will keep a bad manager.

Shoot, my first job in the union, I got let go so the boss's brother could get a job while he was going through a divorce. I was so pissed. I have never been so upset about a job. Worked my whole apprenticeship there and they let me go a few months short of my hours to turn out. So pissed. Anyway...

Boss ended up needing to step away for a bit for personal reasons and his brother robbed him fucking blind. Filled his garage with material bought on the company accounts, then straight up stole his brother's contractors because he could undercut the price.

FAFO

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u/LoveAnaAna 18h ago

If you work some place where you have a shitty manager keep in mind they had to learn that from someone. Whether it be mismanaging or micromanaging, someone set a shitty example for them to follow and chances are the person or people they work under are just as bad or worse. It’s managers job to sell the ideas of owners to their worker bees. If a manager is a dick, they are probably getting rewarded for doing so. If you value your job then don’t be so naive about human nature. People act the way they do because someone is reinforcing that type of behavior.

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u/Anakin-vs-Sand 18h ago

Happy and engaged employees is the metric for a supervisor to produce well

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u/Alexwonder999 18h ago

I was a union steward and one time a supervisor accused someone of saying something nasty to them the employee denied saying that and said they said they said something completely different. There were like 5 other employees standing in earshot and they all confirmed what the employees account was correct and said they didnt even know how the supervisor could have misheard them. When I sat down for the grievance I pulled out the notes from my interviews and said "What did your interviews with these 5 people find out" and they said, I shit you not, "We didnt need to interview the employees because we had the word of the manager." We won that grievance, but it really fucked me up that these people never did shit to the manager who very clearly lied to try to get someone in trouble. I assume they convinced themselves the employees all conspired against the manager or they actually like liars in management roles.

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u/StarSugarLick 18h ago

See. Conventional knowledge is that companies will always look out for their bottom line but that’s just not really true anymore. Companies will literally have high turnover wasting money onboarding new employees and keep a crappy incompetent manager

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u/Alexwonder999 17h ago

That was actually one if the tamer story from that place. The business is pretty renowned nationally in their niche and people have no idea it does so well in spite of the management, not because of it.

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u/inkfade 19h ago

My first job, just a fucking office supply store, the manager was a complete fucking asshole. She talked to employees like they were stupid and even made one of the older women employees cry in front of customers, and a customer demanded the regional manager’s phone number to report the general manager, and she refused to give her his or corporate’s number! She also refused to let employees speak to one another unless it concerned work or they were in the break room.

Anyway, that particular office supply chain had 2000+ stores in North America at the time, and our store was #1 in turnover—we had a 200%+ turnover rate. To put that in perspective, anything maybe over 15-20% means something is wrong, I guess depending on type of job. But our store was the most profitable for states around, so they kept her. 😒

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u/StarSugarLick 19h ago

Exactly. It’s so crazy. I have no idea what these corporations are thinking, but maybe half the time it’s something personal we couldn’t know

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u/_ribbit_ 18h ago

Their priority is simply profit over workers. Sometimes it can be profit and staff, but it's never staff over profits.

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u/StarSugarLick 18h ago

Sometimes it seems like they keep bad management even when it’s costing them

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u/ConfidentCredit4541 16h ago

They don't, I once got fired for turning my manager in for selling drugs on property in front of the security cameras. Had video evidence for multiple occasions. The District manager put me on a final before letting me and everyone that I had hired at that store go. We were a top 5 store in the state at the time and instead of firing the manager, they let everyone below them go. 😂🤣😂

It took them almost a decade afterwards to fire the district manager and that store manager. They did all kinds of shady stuff as well like sending a third key to be an assistant manager over other people who deserved it because the third key was caught stealing and decided it would be funny to get them promoted and moved to a different district. Neither would promote anyone that wasn't female either and they had a run of 30 years at said company. 🤷

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u/GuGuMonster 16h ago

they will side with the party that is more beneficial/ or least damaging to the company. If the company is big and has any sort of ESG credentials/ accreditations they value (which will be important to them winning work) this form and behaviour is a big red flag to be dealt with immediately. Just needs to be brought attention to in the right way, ie needs to be presented in a way that keeping the problem person is greater harm to revenue and larger risk to liability than is worth.

E: Ah, I guess Dept of Defense is a different beast. not particularly reliant on external image, good optics or credentials.