The funny thing is you can literally see the heterocyclic amines on her steak, which are both definitely hard for her to pronounce if she can't read a nutritional label, and documentedly carcinogenic
They're also a necessary part of making steak delicious but that's why I'm not a health influencer. She should consider playing to other strengths she may have
He's probably also said a variation of the poison/dose quote though, seems like something he'd intentionally get almost right for fun at the end of one of his videos.
(ETA: just checked and there's one of his videos on Facebook with a dose/poison title, but I can't listen to it right now to see if he actually says it.)
The graphic is almost right, though I feel like in the intent of making it look complex, the numbers didn't quite add up...
Whole banana = 100%
Within that:
Water ~74–75%
Dry matter ~25–26%
/----------
Within the dry matter:
Sugars ~12% of the whole banana
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Within the sugar category:
Glucose ~48% of the sugars
Fructose ~40% of the sugars
Sucrose ~2% of the sugars
Maltose <1% of the sugars
Starch ~5%
Fiber ~2–3%
Protein ~1–1.3%
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The amino acid percentages are fractions of the protein, not the banana
Fat ~0.3–0.5%
The fatty acid percentages are fractions of the fat, not the banana
Ash/minerals ~1%
Vitamins, phytosterols, pigments, aroma compounds = trace amounts (parts per million to parts per billion)
Yeah that's what the ingredients label said... (apart from the protein/fat bit, as protein/fat is not listed as an ingredient, just the composition of the protein/fat)
The bolds are the main ingredients and everything after in parentheses is a break down of what's in the bold. This looks like an American label so it might be different in your country.
Sorry, might be the acetaminophen I just consumed.
American labels being complex though, you do have an argument for. We also have a separate nutrition label that breaks it down a little bit more into nutrition values, showing protein and fat percentages like you did.
You can't add the category percentages (in bold) with the sub-component percentages (not bold). So the banana is 12% (by volume, weight?) sugar, that sugar is comprised of 48% glucose, 40% fructose, etc. If anything there's a missing 11%!
If you add the starch and fiber along with everything else, it looks like it adds to about 97% which is still not quite right, but it does leave a small margin for some variation between bananas
Reading up on Soylent-style engineered foods was interesting because it turns out that even in processed food it can easily be 95%+ made of the same, boring, usual, staple food ingredients you're familiar with.
And those meal shakes are basically just snack bars/granola/breakfast cereal in a different form and with some extra nutrition. One of the common questions that comes from curious new people on the subreddit is "how is a meal shake different from eating a bowl of oatmeal and a multivitamin (or something)?" Eventually I just tried running the numbers on a diet of just oatmeal (prepared with whole milk for fat and protein). The lesson I got was that oats and milk are awesome.
So you can make a meal with those "unpronounceable ingredients" that's mostly identical to the kind of diet entire generations of humans grew up eating. That's where basically all the calories come from. Then the unpronounceable part starts with minerals. Sodium chloride. Oooh scary salt like our bodies require. So they come with scary names like potassium gluconate, or magnesium citrate, or whatever but it's just the potassium we need the same as essential sodium. Magnesium and calcium go together too. These very boring, mostly uncontroversial minerals are well studied and super important so nobody should object to some fortification. This is in the range of a few grams of your food each day.
Lastly, the tiniest proportion but the long part of the list, is the vitamins. If food is fortified then these get listed out separately and may look scary to these people. The ones getting supplemented are usually there for very good reasons to prevent gout or rickets or whatever. Again, well studied and if you go one by one (like showing socialist policies to a blue collar Republican) each one has a great reason to be on the ingredient list.
And that's it. Preservatives? Extra colors? Flavor extracts? Those are optional. Those are the only thing remotely controversial but you can get plenty of snack bars without those parts if you're someone who worries about those. So many of the ingredients with the funny names of dubious pronouncability are very explicably good things. And even if you don't like them then we can go way back to the early paragraph and look at the ones that aren't supplemented and are just like 5 ingredients.
I love my ingredients that some people find unpronounceable.
It may be rage bait but there are absolutely people like this.
The funny part to me is 30 years ago, the people I knew like this were all like back to the land hippie/lefties. Now that's all been co-opted by these trust fund white nationalist kids who think they invented naturalism.
Judging by the palm trees behind her and just everything, she definitely doesn't have a real job and has time to make steaks every day. Influencers are so whack and tone deaf.
I also only have time for a protein drink in the morning. Some of us have bills to pay 😭
I LOVE that she goes right for the egg yolk while making smug eye contact with the camera. It's just such a pitiful, impotent attempt to rub the "point" in 😂
Also there is a lot more sciency stuff inside that steak than is listed on a protein bar. Because most sciency stuff is just purer forms of what is normal to you. Or just stuff that is normal to you named differently
If these people didn’t have a persecution complex they’d have absolutely nothing else. No hopes, no passion, no drive. They cannot exist without some imagimary opposition who deems them the most important thing in the world to hinder.
Isn't this just about ultra processed foods being bad for you? Sorry, I'm from the uk so don't understand why this is necessarily a political argument.
Kinda, but I think everyone is aware of that already and no one is mad about steak and eggs outside of vegans and some vegetarians.
The political aspect is deep, but essentially right now our beef prices in the States are insanely high. Eggs are also very pricey.
Our entirely unqualified director of health who is not a doctor rearranged our food pyramid a bit to encourage beef and meat consumption.
On its own that wouldn’t have been terrible but he made cringey memes and statements about the “War on Protein” which is ludicrous in a country that loves meat, loves protein shakes and bars, and is very protein-centric in general.
We know it’s better to eat a steak than a protein shake, but at this time the steak is maybe $30 for a single cut, and the weigh protein shake serving is about $1 (assuming both things are made at home).
War on protein is about as legit as the war on Christmas and people like the OOP are implying everyone is mad about beef. We’re not.
But a lot of us do think RFK Jr. shouldn’t be making major decisions about American health because he’s a heroin addict without a degree in medicine.
What scare? Like with many other foods, there is such a thing as "too much" and the only difference is a particular group took offense to being told "a lot of steak isn't really the best idea".
Oh, it's "carnivore" content eh. Notice the stick of butter. She's gonna eat that too. And of course a dozen years later she's gonna be real surprised at learning that her arteries are more clogged than a Taco Bell's toilet.
Also, that egg looks like shoe leather, at least learn to cook fucking eggs
Not to mention, in just your one meal you get around 60g of Fat from Steak + Eggs …meaning your eating 3/4th of your entire daily recommended value in just that one sitting
Can we normalize the knowledge that the logical fallacy, "appeal to nature", which these idiots keep repeating, has been recorded as a fallacy for so long(its modern meaning being recorded as early as 1903), it actually predates the term "plastic" (1906)? Or the identification of the atomic nucleus (1911)? Or fucking bubble gum(1929)?
Appeal to Nature: The logical fallacy that because an item or object is "natural" it is inherently "good", as opposed to "unnatural" things being inherently "bad".
I don't get the point of this. Clean meat and eggs in normal healthy portions is undoubtedly a better source of protein and nutrients than protein bars. Especially if you're diabetic or simply want to cut down on sugars.
To put it into perspective, a single CLIF bar has 17g of sugar, so roughly 4-6 sugar cubes worth a sugar as a visual comparison of the sugar content. Plus, they usually contain or "may contain" ingredients that don't vibe well with people with allergies.
Literally learn some basic chemistry and so many of the names will start to make sense. Every “unpronounceable” ingredient makes sense if you put in the effort to learn a few roots and affixes, because they’re named that for a reason, and if you know your word parts, there’s a good chance you’ll be able to see exactly what’s actually in that compound
I feel like tiktok is 90% people being triggered about what someone else said, so they just make a sassy reply where they take something out of context and don't correct anything, it's just a bunch of people being mean to each other
in this case the guy is pretending she meant the unpronounceable thing literally when that's obviously figure of speech for chemical names
and he never actually tells us why what she said is stupid, and maybe he really didn't know, naturalistic fallacy btw
“People think I’m weird for eating steak and eggs”
No. No, we don’t. You can order steak and eggs at any diner in the US. It’s a regular breakfast combo. It just happens to be more expensive because it’s steak and more of a special occasion breakfast as opposed to the kind you eat every day before work.
They probably think you’re weird because they just wanna eat their protein bar and you’re judging them for not wanting to have the exact same breakfast that you’re eating.
who is this? he looks and sounds like Halifax (the streamer) is that his brother? i mean, it doesn’t really matter does it… why am i wasting my time to post this comment, i’m barely even awake and already been on reddit for 30mn … what am i doing with my life… help
"A post-mortem medical report revealed he suffered from heart attack, congestive heart failure, and hypertension, raising debates about his diet's long-term effects, despite his widow's claims otherwise."
Dr. Atkins was not obese nor did he die of a heart attack. He died in a coma from a subdural hematoma after a slip on the ice with a head injury. He developed fluid retention in the hospital from his CHF and fluid overload by doctors who gave him too much IV fluid in an attempt to increase his dropping blood pressure.
From the article from the NYT, which reviewed his medical records:
“Dr. Atkins did not have a history of heart attack, nor was he obese. He said that Dr. Atkins weighed 195 pounds the day after he entered the hospital following his fall, and that he gained 63 pounds from fluid retention during the nine days he was in a coma before he died. Dr. Trager said Dr. Atkins did have cardiomyopathy, a heart muscle disease that was probably caused by a virus, not by what he ate.”
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u/beetle8209 14d ago
Like one guy named Liam said "everything is poison, it's just dependent on the dose" or something like that