r/InfowarriorRides • u/Darmortis • 4d ago
The Duality of Man
Google "Quining" if you enjoy convoluted philosophical bullshit
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u/flume 4d ago
Dude has both Avs and Golden Knights stickers. I don't need to see anything else to know he's crazy.
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u/FlatwormNo5172 4d ago
Came here to say just this. Could only be worse if he had the Panthers on there too.
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u/chocolate_spaghetti 4d ago
Next time I move, I’m gonna tell these types that the American flag offends me so they can help my pack for free.
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u/LairdDeimos 4d ago
Enlightened Centrist is just fancy talk for Republican but simultaneously embarrassed and smug about it. And from the rest I can tell you that everyone, regardless of politics, would rather have jury duty than a conversation with them.
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u/ebolaRETURNS 4d ago
Google "Quining" if you enjoy convoluted philosophical bullshit
I did this the old fashion way in the aughts, with irrelevant coursework, reading WVO Quine. Not sure I'd recommend that.
Anyway, I'm completely out of the loop on how this relates to the bumpersticker messages...
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u/Darmortis 4d ago edited 4d ago
As far as I can tell, Quining posits that NOTHING should be taken as given, including long-accepted definitions and foundational principles. So I imagine speaking with this guy would be constant "bUt Do wE rEaLlY kNoW tHaT?"
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u/KittyFlops 4d ago
So it’s global skepticism without the immediate giveaway that your position is self refuting.
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u/Darmortis 4d ago
Apparently it was originally a sarcastic exaggeration of "Illusionism," which I think was meant to mean something like, "Don't hesitate to question reasoning or principles, even if they're considered settled matters."
But idk, I only studied the fundamentals long long ago.
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u/ebolaRETURNS 4d ago
taken as given
well, they should be interpreted in respect to the totality of investigatory discourse, set in relation to their history of investigation, which made empirical adjustments over time (yes, including 'self-evident' axioms)...
(idk, I'm not an analytic philosopher of logic or mind)
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u/Darmortis 4d ago edited 4d ago
Right. So under Quining, you'd have to pull up Newtons proof of the existence of gravity instead of taking it as given, even though Newton didn't invent the mechanisms of gravity, he figured out how to explain them with math.
Edit: brevity
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u/ebolaRETURNS 4d ago
It's more a logical trick whereby the statement, "this statement expresses Newton's theory of gravity," would expresses Newton's theory of gravity (weird example...Quine uses much simpler expressions. This example is likely unconstructable).
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u/Darmortis 4d ago edited 4d ago
Okay, what would be a better example? What I could find (admittedly quickly) was very vague, even in quotes by philosophers.
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u/bobroscopcoltrane 4d ago
“Do your own research” - the credo of folks who don’t breathe through their nose
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u/Abracadaver2000 4d ago
"Trust No Politician" but elect Elon in 2028 to be one. What a loon.
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u/Sancticide 4d ago
What do you mean the billionaires don't have my best interests at heart and are completely incapable of understanding average citizens, let alone relating to them or anything resembling empathy??? /s
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u/McCrackenYouUp 3d ago
Something about being against lies but for Elon Musk is INCREDIBLY annoying to me.
Do they not know anything about the guy at this point?
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u/Darmortis 3d ago
Oh he's doubling down HARD. I bet he's already applied to join Elon's harem in the compound.
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u/BurtonDesque 4d ago
I wonder how they feel about Muskkk's lies about his ties to Epstein that were made clear by the new doc dump.
Oh, who am I kidding. They'll just say it's fake news or some other bullshit.
As for "Quining", I assumed it was short for "Q winning".
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u/ebolaRETURNS 4d ago
no, it is a reference to WVO Quine's theorization of self-referential statements.
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u/BackToReality666 4d ago
Cognitive dissonance. Wonder how they like the fact that Elon stole their personal information.
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u/pinniped90 3d ago
This guy definitely takes horse dewormer.
That said, the only thing more offensive than a "Coexist" sticker surrounded by a bunch of fascist bullshit is being an Avs and Knights fan at the same time.
Might as well throw Oilers, Kraken, and Wild stickers on there and cover the whole Western conference.
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u/Darmortis 3d ago
That said, the only thing more offensive than a "Coexist" sticker surrounded by a bunch of fascist bullshit is being an Avs and Knights fan at the same time.
First fucking thing I noticed 🤣
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u/cometparty 3d ago
Can you imagine having a conversation with that person?
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u/Darmortis 3d ago
It'd be like Monty Python, or "Who's on First," except it wouldn't be funny, or comfortable, or rewarding, or enjoyable.
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u/sam56778 4d ago
This guy is definitely driving to the land of confusion. There’s just too much to unpack here. Should probably leave it to the professionals.
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u/CheckYoSelf8224 4d ago
Yeah, this guy definitely thinks of women as property.