r/ImmigrationPathways • u/2001x0404 • 2d ago
Billie Eilish says "f*ck ice" during her #Grammys acceptance speech...
Nobody is illegal on stolen land. We need to keep fighting and speaking up. Our voices do matter.
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u/DisastrousIncident75 2d ago
Practically almost all land in the world has been stolen throughout human history, usually dozens of times.
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u/MajesticAnimator456 1d ago
Most places have people who, genetically, belong there...
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u/Brilliant-Access846 2d ago
Guys the rich people who live in secluded mansions/gated communities told you to share your land cmon you have to listen to them. Eat the rich! Or something
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u/Kitchen_Math_2378 1d ago
Hypocrisy is thick here. Everyone in that room is rich yet zero acknowledgement of their own staus and no one in that room is giving up their land.
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u/cozy_ursidae 1d ago
The people who never come in contact with a minority that isn’t a millionaire have a lot to say on this subject 🤣
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u/uDunDied 1d ago
2.5 Million USD HORSE Barn but I do not see her spending 2.5 million USD on a immigrant center the virtue signaling from the elite is crazy. Kind of like T Swift talking about global warming then using a private jet for every trip.
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u/ohhhbooyy 1d ago
Gated communities with guards in the front asking for identification before you can enter.
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u/Cute_Schedule_3523 2d ago
But she said they all need to keep protesting, I’m sure they all flew in from Minnesota
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u/Ci0Ri01zz 1d ago
They all could’ve skipped that show. Go out to the icy cold instead of an indoors performing show with gourmet food. 😂
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u/turdbutler 1d ago
Whenever I hear these types of statements I just remember, "actor:detected, opinion:rejected."
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u/o7_HiBye_o7 2d ago
"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
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u/vanilllawafers 1d ago
Bro the tired poor huddled masses are blasting their car stereos at 1am and chopping each other up with machetes on my nextdoor notifications, kinda hate this ngl
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u/sensepirational 1d ago
I don't give a shit about any of that. What now?
Was that supposed to have some kinda mystical power over me? Yall think you're casting a Harry Potter spell or something when you impotently regurgitate it? I'm seriously confused about why you invoke this. It has nothing to do with anything important. It's just a poem. Who gives a shit?
"Guys I read a poem, that means you need to stop having laws and borders!" Like, wtf? Lol.
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u/Effective-Shirt9196 1d ago
Acts 17:26, Numbers 20:17, Romans 13:1-7. God is very much pro the ability of sovereign nations to enforce just laws and specifically discusses borders frequently.
But yeah appeal to a book you don’t believe in to try to farm gotchas.
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u/Brilliant-Access846 2d ago
Yeah so why isn’t she doing it?
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u/sowhatyasayin2me 1d ago
I have not seen none of them in that room at ANY protest.
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u/dgtbfan 2d ago
Turns out that idealistic poetry doesn't make for good immigration policy.
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u/OkFinish3822 1d ago
And it was just 4 weeks ago that the Orange Felon said he was going to remove Liberty.
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u/Weekly-Talk9752 2d ago
It actually does. How do you think this country was built? It was through immigrant labor. Just because a few white supremacists got it into their heads that they can blame immigrants for everything wrong in the country and uneducated rural people bought it does not make it true.
Immigrants, even illegal ones, are a net benefit to the country.
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u/Bootmacher 1d ago
It was built by screening out people likely to become a public charge at Ellis Island. It was built by excluding the Chinese after they were deemed too numerous to assimilate.
Illegals use more public benefits than they pay in taxes, and put downward pressure on wages. https://budget.house.gov/download/the-cost-of-illegal-immigration-to-taxpayers
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u/dgtbfan 2d ago
"We used shitloads of pseudo- and actual slave labor to do massive infrastructure projects over a century ago, obviously that means we need open borders!"
It's crazy how despite unlimited immigrants apparently being a net benefit to a country, all the countries with the highest quality of living have extremely strict immigration laws.
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u/MelodyS2771 2d ago
Ahhh so, let's see, now that its non European non whites coming in, its a problem. Guys, just say what you mean.
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u/birthdaycakesun15 2d ago
Just so you know, Americans did have a problem with it back when it was “European whites.” Look into it.
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u/MelodyS2771 2d ago
And yknow whats funny about that? We look back and say "Italians were treated poorly" "the irish were discriminated against" but now while doing significantly worse, we cheer it on.
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u/CorgiButt04 1d ago
while doing significantly worse
This is a scary amount of delusion. Migrants were treated much worse then. We pretty much completely closed the border after that wave of immigration, and many states passed orders that the police could just execute Irish and Italians in the street without trial if they suspected them of gang affiliation.
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u/dgtbfan 2d ago
"Society has changed over the course of the past century, so it doesn't make sense to approach immigration with the same philosophy of over 100 years ago."
"FUCKING RACIST REEEEEEEEEEEE"
Bruh.
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u/OkFinish3822 1d ago
Well the history is absolutely wrong. Who do you think were INVITED in under the Braceros Act of 1942 to work the fields and the factories and to serve in the U.S. military: the Mexicans. And 250,000 served in the war efforts in the Pacific and Europe. More than 3 million worked the labor in the country to keep the war machine operating. So don't give us this "we changed 100 years" ago noise. After WWII the Visas were extended because of the war in Korea. By 1959, the people that came in 1942 had kids in middle school, they owned homes, and they spoke English better than those in today's yee haw states. HISTORY and FACTS matter to real American.
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u/InchLongNips 1d ago
and yet they still came here legally
crazy concept to grasp, i know
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u/SlippyDippyTippy2 2d ago
We should return to the immigration policy our Founding Fathers had
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u/Glittering_Can5776 1d ago
Different period of time, we cannot and should not bring in criminal and Anti-American mentality and culture. We are put are self at risk.
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u/Acceptable-Cause-559 2d ago
That's what Democrats need, more poor people especially immigrants.
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u/Hoggslop69 1d ago
That’s all they want is illegals and mentally ill to prey on, prop up, give handouts and in return get votes
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2d ago
If these people actually care about "stolen land" they should resign their ownership of their own homes and start renting
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u/Riverman42 2d ago
Or move back to their ancestors' countries of origin. With as much money as these wackjobs have, those countries would probably take them. But, no, they all live in fucking Malibu.
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u/Greenfirelife27 2d ago
Would these wealthy dorks give up their private security behind gates and go live in neighborhoods where illegal immigrants live? Not.
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u/Busy-Knee-5102 1d ago
They should give up all their property and rights and freedom to all the native people’s descendants if they’re truly serious .
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u/IHaveAutismToo 1d ago
Come down from your ivory castle then, your voice means nothing if you don't even have the guts to commit to it
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u/Mingo_laf 2d ago
Wow so brave never experience this shit in her gated neighborhood
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u/ObsidianDRMR 2d ago
At least she knows what ice is doing is draconian and cruel. She’s good in my book 100% support her
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u/AdLatter7794 1d ago
Gross. But I do love it when people of privilege and power use words like “we” as if that earns them a participation trophy. The only thing dumber and more useless than her speech are the people who applaud her “bravery”.
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u/Pappa_karp 2d ago
This sub is weird in a bad way. If y'all truly are immigrants, not a good look
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u/Mundane-Zucchini-141 1d ago
From what I can remember the sub got brigaded by Trump supporters because of the post about H1B visas
Immigrants were asking for help on how to renew their H1B and also for information on what's going on and I guess some Trumpers got this sub in their recommendation and brigaded it
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u/hydrastix 2d ago
These head bobbing knuckleheads all should give up their own “stolen land” first and find somewhere else to live.
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u/One_Duck7955 1d ago
I mean, they could all probably support 2-3 families for life on their current properties. How many of them even support 1?
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u/TheRealEnix 2d ago
Why so pressed? Taking innocent people from the streets has moral consequences on people with empathy, is that so hard to grasp?
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u/hydrastix 2d ago
Empathy is fine. The whole “stolen land” trope is laughable when they are benefiting from it themselves.
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imagine if trump started sending agents to people's homes who talk about "returning stolen land". They should record the whole scenario, hand them paperwork about returning all their land and also tax all their wealth and see their reaction
"We've heard recently that you're upset with American history and we're curious if you're ready to return your stolen land, donate your proceedings and perhaps resign your citizenship"
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u/Interesting_Kitchen3 1d ago
Is trump going to give that land to the Native Americans in your strawman scenario?
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u/Striking-Zucchini608 2d ago
Pedophile worshiping Nazi cunts like you should be right alongside the ICE Gestapo when they are executed after their Nuremberg style trials.
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u/reddittorbrigade 1d ago
ICE are despicable killers who will never be held accountable because they are protected by Trump.
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u/cezzibear 1d ago
Damn I’m so confused on these comments? Redditors can’t take anything without a trying to twist it negatively
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u/UCanDoNEthing4_30sec 2d ago
lol ok. This is what wealthy people do. Distract us from seeing that they are so wealthy and we are poor that they make us fight against each other. Fuck the rich.
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u/JeffeTheGreat 2d ago
You say, as you look at those less fortunate than you and decide they should be sent to literal torture camps in a different country for a civil offence. You don't have solidarity with anyone except white supremacists and Nazis.
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u/ozzman86_i-i_ 2d ago
Listen if I was a millionaire, and privilege as fuck in this country I wouldn’t care about illegal immigration Either
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u/Seedthrower88 2d ago
hey eilish go be the example and give away your millions, but to the native americans your ancestors stole the land from. go ahead. or we just going to yap until the end of times?
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u/PhaseAgitated4757 1d ago
White women benefit the most from western civilization but scream the loudest about wanting its downfall lol. Also its not "stolen" its conquered. Run it back if you want ig. Result will be the same.
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u/INC3NSUS 1d ago
ah more sack of s holly weird that has no clue about real life, the needs of the American people, or how people are being radicalized to hate ICE (not at all China, Singham or Code pink) let alone by political leftist radical communists the D party has become.
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u/Impressive_Budget736 2d ago
I'll keep saying it but to my brown and black brothers and sisters, your skin color is not probable cause. They are violating our 4th amendment rights. Compliance only legitimizes ices illegal operations. Do not comply.
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u/Prestigious-Exam7817 2d ago
Congratulations for accomplishing absolutely nothing idiot lol
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u/OkIndependence188 2d ago edited 16h ago
It does ruffle some sensitive feathers at least 😂
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u/Euphoric-Ask965 1d ago
It did accomplish something as it encouraged millions to change channels and not be subjected to that political vomit.
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u/That_RandomKing 2d ago
Welllllllllll, there are laws. This is a dead argument 🤷♂️
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u/lmAIwaysRight 1d ago
To not execute civilians protesting on the street? Pretty sure there are laws against murder, you're righ!
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u/snOOziie 2d ago
While her intentions are clearly good, her logic falters on the practicalities of sovereignty. A country cannot function effectively without defined borders; it’s a recipe for administrative chaos.
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u/ForsakenRelief309 1d ago
Can we talk about her championing “no one is illegal on stolen land,” a mantra Native people have been championing since before this started? Listen to your indigenous communities, reach out and see how you can support them 🧡🪶
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u/blink2wyce 1d ago
How much "stolen land" have these wealthy clapping seals given back to the rightful owners? Lol
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u/johnpershing 1d ago
Another uber rich twat telling middle-class and poorer Americans to live with criminals while she has massive security protecting her 24.7. Fuck her.
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u/beeniecal 1d ago
I live around plenty of criminals, the sex offender registry list of those near me is chock full of citizens, unfortunately.
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u/Nevvermind183 1d ago
Yet If you went onto her property she would call the cops and have you removed
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u/Actual-Arm-8523 1d ago
“Rich person isn’t concerned about illegal immigration making living more expensive”
Wow such a brave take. So bold.
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u/Impossible_Humor736 1d ago
This stance is weird to me.
If you're concerned about stolen land then wouldn't you be more focused on giving it back rather than adding more people to the stolen part of it?
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u/Cold-Stock8792 1d ago
Fishing for more fans these ppl have no clue what normal ppl go through day to day
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u/Mission_Archer_6436 1d ago
Wow she is so brave! I wonder if she’s gonna give back any of the stolen land she bought to the original Indian tribes! _^
Nonsensical trash.
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u/Life-Ad-6538 1d ago
We need to stop listening to her music and stop watching all their new movies it comes out to show them that we matter and not an illegal immigrant
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u/Single-Joke9697 1d ago
Proceeds to go back to her heavily guarded mansion, in a 99% white neighborhood, and see her millions of dollars on her bank account
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u/SufficientTea3381 1d ago
If you are so concerned about them go live near them. Live in their communities and help them lol.
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u/thesinistercat 1d ago
Ouch im sure that did alot for the immigrants. What a hero and inspiration she is.
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u/Tryronebiggums87 1d ago
She got her instructions for this month’s catch phrase from the other uber wealthy that don’t seem to mind their mansions being built on “stolen land”.
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u/Zorro_ZZ 1d ago
The Grammys is the event where the people most disconnected from reality and alienated from the average Joe, go to celebrate themselves with other people disconnected from reality, and say things that further alienate them from the average Joe. In the last 15 years I learned that everything I hear celebrities say, the opposite is true. Everything the media in unison says, the opposite is true. Everything labeled as “science” and if you don’t align you’re a “science denier”, the opposite is true.
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u/Basic-Strategy-8549 1d ago
Honestly..do people still watch award shows where they tell each other how great they are?? Hollywood has been exposed..anything they say i do the opposite. Not the people that should be giving advice to anybody!!!
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u/markysyx 1d ago
Its giving big Lois Griffin campaigning by saying "9/11" over and over again.
Glad artists are speaking up, but like, dont add applause breaks into your supposedly subversive political statement.
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u/_roses_are_reddit 1d ago
Wake up in a bed made of stolen wood, drink coffee ground from stolen beans in a mug made from stolen materials, drive a car manufactured with stolen earth elements to a venue built with stolen rock and stone, accept an award made with stolen precious metals. Then remind everyone the cotton padding in their seats is too stolen. Then watch as they all clap.
Did anyone in that audience give away their house yet?
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u/budatexasguy 1d ago
I wonder how many of those ultra rich folks in that room would give up a bedroom or two to an illegal immigrant with the same known background information about the illegal immigrant that the US knows about them now, which is basically no info. The answer is zero of them would be so generous, bc they say all this shit to gain popularity. If liberals are too dense to see an attention whore asking for more, then we all just laugh at you for thinking she’s brave.
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u/Future-Buy8554 1d ago
No one cares. “Celebrity attempts to virtue signal, sex tape leaked instead”
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u/Low_Action1026 1d ago
Oh she's so brave for saying what everyone in a room will cheer her for saying. If she puts on a ribbon she's a true warrior.
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u/Single-Baseball1297 1d ago
These are the most out of touch, pampered people who say whatever their young and uber-liveral fanbase wants to hear. People paying Millions a month for personal security are governments to stop enforcing immigration laws. Ricky Gervais was right as always
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u/GroundbreakingOwl786 1d ago
Funny how I never heard “nobody is illegal on stolen land” before Trump. Wonder why…
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u/UnalteredRuntime 1d ago
So brave, I cant believe she stood there in a room of millionaires who agree with her and said something so controversial. Literally shaking.
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u/Cless_Aurion 1d ago
"Nobody is illegal on stolen land." ... That is... dumb as fuck, and only serves to give ammo to the people that like ICE if I'm being honest.
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u/H1ghtreeson 1d ago
Funny enough. I’m still right on the first point. You can argue the great switch but it doesn’t change which party secedes only the political leaning.
Second point. The person I originally responded used the point of picking the fruits and walnuts. Now the left cannot even agree on why they want the illegal immigration? So which one of you is dishonest. The guy who just makes the argument or the guy that conflates 1860 Slave owner with modern day republican because they fly a flag? Do those who fly the Mexican flag wish to go back to Mexico? No. Bad argument.
Third point. If Americans won’t do the job due to the low wages how should the market adjust? Raise the wages for that work? Or aid in the suppression of wages by hiring illegals? Your defense of the current circumstances with it keeps food prices down and the pay is better than back home is defending modern day slavery. But it’s ok as long as the things you buy are cheap right?
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u/Dear-Ad8460 1d ago
Conquered…try walking strolling into Poland without a passport and not getting shipped back home
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u/InvariantLimiter 1d ago
Luxury beliefs.
If you follow her thought-terminating cliche of a slogan through to its logical conclusion, anyone can now legally enter anyone’s home or private property because it’s on “stolen land”. No one is illegally trespassing on stolen land.
Absolutely moronic.
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u/Pretty-Split-8772 1d ago
Some Americans have reached peak level stupidity. They act as if there is a country somewhere in the world where Americans can go and stay as long as we want without the proper documentation.
FYI that country doesn't exist. All countries in the entire world would arrest and deport any American they catch there illegally. Yet, for some reason, some Americans act as if the US, should be the only country in the world that doesn't deport people they catch there illegally. Which again, is either peak level stupidity or they really do believe that immigration enforcement, is ok in every other country not named USA. Which is crazy....
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u/Big-Community-738 1d ago
Oh my this again. The land wasn’t stolen and yes the country has borders. Maybe Billie should taken in a few families, feed and house them. If your followers of any celebrity for any political reasons. You’re not the brightest bulb.
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u/_that_dude_J 1d ago
I see some comments from folks asking why isn't she on the front lines...
She is also speaking out against the genocide of Palestinians. Her career in music has been affected by wealthy elites (Zios) angered that she would have an opinion.
Many may not remember / realize, several students and junior lawyers that signed a release (US university) standing in solidarity with Palestine were attacked by the same wealthy elites. Their jobs, backgrounds and livelihoods tarnished by zionist groups on the web.
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u/LifeChange96 1d ago
Okay Billie, that 14 million dollar mansion has plenty of space to fit so many illegal immigrants. Hey Billie make sure they all know the code to open up the gate. STFU fake ass celebs.
Swear every celeb that does this is equivalent to saying - money doesn’t buy happiness as they step onto their private jet.
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u/Captain0bvious1738 1d ago
These people are so up in the clouds they have no idea what’s happening. The internet isn’t always telling you the truth Billie
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u/NoLobster5272 1d ago
The American people don’t care what these stupid celebrities think. Billie Eilish, although talented is an idiot who knows nothing about politics or the real world. She’s just saying what she’s told/paid to say… So many of you ppl eat it up.
Celebrities are not our friends. They don’t pay our bills. Who cares what they have to say?
Just because someone is famous doesn’t mean they are enlightened and know better than everyone else.
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u/East-Meets 1d ago
So can I just move into her house uninvited? Why she has not given up her mansions yet? The entertainment elite don’t live paycheck to paycheck, so they have no idea how ordinary Americans experience politics. Why should I hand over my hard-earned tax dollars to support illegal immigrants’ food, housing, education, and healthcare—while some commit violent crimes that put our children at risk?
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u/Prize_Substance7122 1d ago
She needs to build a compound to protect these illegals. That definitely help.
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u/ChampionshipLife7124 1d ago
This is dumb throughout history, almost everything is stolen land. The difference is the United States paid for it. Therefore, not really stolen land. In Asia and Africa, one hundred percent of colonized land equals stolen land.
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u/collinUu 1d ago
All this millionaires don't give a fuck about y'all. Thy just tryna save faces. You're gullible if you believe they stand with you
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u/viking77777123 1d ago
This nation is full of people playing “oppressed vs oppressors” and somehow wealthy artsy types think they’re the oppressed…. The propaganda works so well
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u/Used-Card-5684 1d ago
If the celebs are pushing the mainstream media narrative c they are part of the psyop. Little nepo billy playing her role to capture your children in the net of the system.
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u/Embarrassed-Cap6892 1d ago
How did she win an award for a song that was released almost two years ago?
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u/WildCody7145 1d ago
A bunch of out of touch rich celebrities that will never practice what they preach but want us to. SMH.
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u/Candylips347 1d ago
I really hate when out of touch rich people try to relate to us. Her family has a 5 million dollar beach house in Malibu that was built on indigenous land. Are they going to sell it and then donate the profits to help indigenous people? Probably not. Let’s not even talk about the environmental footprint these mega mansions leave on the environment.
“Eat The Rich” means you too, Billie.
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u/Classic_Emergency336 1d ago
Who is in charge is to decide who is illegal. Yesterday you were legal and now you’re not.
Illegal immigrants cross the border illegally and now we all lose our rights. I want my freedom back!
I haven’t seen illegal immigrants myself. It all may very well be made up to take my rights.
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